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Guide to buying a Legacy (More stuff to be added..L.G.T.)

Postby Flex030 » August 16th, 2009, 9:18 am

Just to start the ball rolling you can add or make corrections..... :wink:

Please feel free to ask any questions on the Subaru Legacy that you need to know and I’m sure one of the guys from Legacy Group Trinidad would be willing to help by answering your questions..... :wink:

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This site has all that you would need to know about all Subaru models:
http://www.cars101.com/

16 cycles wrote:1. Chassis code designation for the different yrs.

http://www.cars101.com/legacy.html

16 cycles wrote:2. what do the small changes in code mean? e.g. how to distinguish between sedan and legacy:

(2003-2005)
BP5= Wagon
Scroll down:
http://www.japanvehicles.com/newcars/subaru/LegacyBP/LegacyTWBP_E.htm

BL5= Sedan

16 cycles wrote:3. Minor differences in suspension set-ups / tyre size.:

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2006-up came with the SI DRIVE additional:
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16 cycles wrote:4. where to find the codes to tell the differences?:
6. trim - what to diff trim codes mean?:


Vehicle Identification Plate

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Details:
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/vin.html


1. The top number is designated to the exact date that the car was built.
2. Vehicle Identification Number.
3. Applied Model - Indicates exactly what car you have, and can be deciphered by
using the key above.
4. Option code, denotes what Options that were taken when the car was in
production.

5. Trim Code, this indicates type and colour of cloth and interior styling.
6. Engine Type, this indicates the engine number and what engine it is i.e. EJ20.
7. Colour Code, as it say's the specific paint code for the colour of your car.
8. Transmission Type, indicates the gearbox/transmission number and what type of gearbox is fitted.


16 cycles wrote:5. same follows for different engines / gearbox set-up:

(2003-2005)
N/A - 5eat - 5M/T
GT - 5eat - 5M/T - (6M/T?)
Spec B - 5eat - 5M/T - (6M/T?)
S402/STi - 6MT

16 cycles wrote:7. what does japanese on radio mean? even simple stuff like that to help each other:


Subaru suggested maintenance schedules:

http://www.cars101.com/subaru/subaru_maintenance.html

Different type of IHI Turbos explained (comp. OZ Liberty)

VF13
Primary turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy MY93-95.

VF14
Secondary turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy MY93-95.

VF18
Primary turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy MY96.

VF19
Secondary turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy MY96.

VF20
Turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy MY97.


VF22
(460cfm at 18.0psi, 250-325whp, Bolt-On) Used on the V3 Subaru Impreza WRX
This turbo has the highest output potential of all of the IHI VF series turbos and is the best choice for those who are looking for loads of top end power. The top end power however, does not come without a cost. The VF22 spools significantly slower than the rest of the IHI models due to the larger P20 exhaust housing and is much less suited for daily driving than some of the other models. Although the largest VF series turbo, the VF22 is not quite optimal for stroked engines or those who wish to run more than 20PSI of boost. Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 3200-3700rpms.


VF23
(460cfm at 18.0psi, 250-325whp, Bolt-On) Used on the JDM V3 Subaru Impreza WRX.
This turbo is considered a great all-around turbo. Like the VF22 it utilizes the largest P20 exhaust housing. This housing is mated with a smaller compressor housing of the of the VF24 for fast response and excellent low and mid-range performance. This turbo is considered optimal in applications with range from mild to slightly wild. It does not have the same top end power of the VF22, but spools up significantly quicker. Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 2800-3300rpms.

VF24
(425cfm at 18psi, 250-325whp, Bolt-On) Used on the V4 Subaru Impreza WRX STi.[/color]
This turbo shares its compressor housing with the VF23 however, this housing is mated with a smaller (P18) exhaust side. The smaller characteristics of this turbo allow it to provide ample bottom end power and quick spool. This turbo is very popular for Imprezas with automatic transmissions and Group N rally cars. Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 2800-3300rpms.

VF25
Primary turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy B4. Utilizes a thrust-bearing design and a P12 exhaust housing.

VF26
(400cfm at 18psi)
This is the standard equipment primary turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy B4. Utilizes a divided thrust-bearing design and a P14 exhaust housing.

VF27
(420 CFM at 18psi)
This is the standard equipment secondary turbocharger used on the JDM Legacy. Utilizes a ball-bearing design and a P18 exhaust housing.

VF28
(425cfm at 18psi, 250-325whp, Bolt-On)
This turbo came standard on the STi Version 5. In terms of overall size, it is smaller than the VF22, VF30 and VF34, and about same size as the VF23. Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 2800-3300rpms. 2002-2005 WRX owners will need fuel upgrades for this turbocharger and proper engine management is highly recommended for all vehicles.

VF29
(425cfm at 18psi, 250-325whp, Bolt-On)
This Turbo is nearly identical to the VF24, with the same compressor and exhaust housings. However the compressor wheel in the VF29 has been changed slightly. The changes made to the compressor wheel in this model are generally viewed as improvements, and as such this unit is typically chosen over the VF24. Has a different location for the pressure hose on the wastegate actuator.

VF30
(460cfm at 18psi, 250-325whp, Bolt-On)
This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the JDM V7 Subaru Impreza WRX STi.
The VF30 is commonly considered the best bang for the buck turbo in the IHI VF series line. A relatively new model the VF30 features the same exhaust housing as the VF24 but a larger compressor side similar to the VF22. The combination of these two parts results in increased output potential without the lag associated with the VF22. Although it doesn't offer the top end supremacy of the VF22, the VF30 is a great compromise between these unit and the quicker spooling models. The VF30 is a thrust-bearing turbo that utilizes the P18 exhaust housing of a VF24 and the compressor housing sized between a VF23 and a VF22.

VF31
Utilizes a P11 exhaust housing.

VF32
The secondary turbocharger used in the B4 IHI VF32. On the exhaust side it uses a 46.5/35.4mm 9-blade turbine wheel, teamed with a 52.5/36.6mm 10-blade compressor wheel. It's rated at 180,000 rpm. Both the primary and secondary turbochargers use a floating metal centre bearing - not ball bearings.

VF33
The primary turbocharger used in the B4 is an IHI VF33 unit, which uses a 46.5/35.4mm 9-blade turbine wheel and a 47.0mm/35.4mm 6 + 6 blade compressor. At idle, the turbo spins at around 20,000 rpm and it can go on to a maximum speed of 190,000 rpm. It has a 17mm diameter wastegate opening to bypass excess exhaust gas. It utilizes a P11 exhaust housing and a divided thrust-bearing design.

VF34
(460cfm at 18psi, 250-325whp, Bolt-On) This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the JDM V7 Subaru Impreza WRX STi Spec-C.
The VF34 is nearly identical to the VF30, with the same exhaust housing and compressor. However the VF34 goes back to the ball bearing design, and in doing so achieves full boost approximately 500RPM sooner than the comparable VF30. The VF34 is the most recent IHI design and as such costs slightly more than its counterpart. Top end performance and maximum output are identical to the 30.

VF35
(425cfm, 250-325whp, Bolt-On)
The VF35 has identical internals as the VF30 and it uses divided thrust bearings. However, the exhaust housing is a P15 which means this turbo will have fantastic spool characteristics. This turbo is standard on the new WRX Type RA. LIMITED SUPPLY. The VF35 is similar to the VF34. It utilizes the same compressor housing and the same compressor inducer size. The differences are in the divided thrust-bearing design and the P15 exhaust housing. This allows the VF35 to spool slightly quicker than the VF34 at the cost of less top-end performance.

VF36
(430 cfm, 250-325whp, Modification Required) This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the JDM V8-V9 Subaru Impreza WRX STI Spec-C Type RA.
Roller bearing version of the twin scroll VF37, also has a titanium turbine and shaft for even quicker spool. Same compressor housing as VF30/34, however twin scroll P25 exhaust housing provides slightly better top end output due to reduced exhaust pulse interference. This turbo is good for 400HP and used on JDM STI Spec C from 2003 onwards. It is essentially a fast spooling VF34.

VF37
(430 cfm, 250-325whp, Modification Required) This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the JDM V8-V9 Subaru Impreza WRX STI. (It is essentially a fast spooling VF30.)
Enter the age of twin scroll IHI turbos. Same compressor housing as VF30/34, however has a new twin scroll P25 exhaust housing that provides slightly better top end output due to reduced exhaust pulse interference. Twin scroll also provides better spool up for improved low down response over the VF30/34. This turbo is good for 400HP and used on JDM STI from 2003 onwards.

VF38
Twin scroll turbo with titanium turbine and shaft. Smaller compressor housing than VF36/VF37 provides tremendous spool up capabilities but less top end than VF36/37. The spool capabilities of this turbo are demonstrated on the JDM Legacy GT, which reaches peak torque at 2400RPM.

VF39
(250-325whp, Bolt-On) This is the standard equipment turbocharger used on the USDM Subaru Impreza WRX STI.
Single scroll turbo used on USDM STI and latest 2.5L STIs released internationally. Smaller than VF30/VF34. It can be found on all model years from 2004-2006. The VF39 utilizes a thrust bearing design and the P15 exhaust housing.
Expect to achieve full boost with the proper mods and a quality tune between 3000-3500rpms. 2002-2005 WRX owners will need fuel upgrades for this turbocharger and proper engine management is highly recommended for all vehicles that utilize this turbo aftermarket. Though they are prone to cracking (wastegate hole), VF39’s can be had for very cheap if bought used. Not because they're an inferior turbo, but the exhaust housing can be near the wastegate hole.

VF40
Used on the USDM Subaru Legacy GT. It can be found on all the current model years from 2005-2007.

VF41
Used on the JDM Subaru Forester STI. It utilizes a P18 exhaust housing.

VF42
Exclusive turbo to the S203/S204 models, this features a twin scroll design with a slightly larger compressor than the VF36/37 turbos and different turbine design (more blades). The VF42 is a roller-bearing turbo and is likely of similar size to the VF22 turbo, but with twin scroll exhaust housing for faster spool and superior top end performance due to reduced exhaust pulse interference.

VF43
(250-325whp, Bolt-On)
Used on the MY07 USDM Subaru Impreza WRX STI. It can be found on both base STI's and STI Limited's. The VF43 utilizes a thrust bearing design and the P15 exhaust housing. The difference between the VF43 and the VF39 used previously on STI's is the size of the wastegate. The VF43 has a larger wastegate designed to reduce boost creep issues.

Spec B expalined:(comp website)

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The new Subaru Legacy GT Spec B is powered by a 276-hp single twin-scroll turbocharged and intercooled 2.0-liter flat-four. No, it's not yet sold in America, but we hear it will be in 2005.
The GT Spec B receives a more aggressive front bumper than the standard Legacy and significant aerocladding underneath. Inside, a driver-oriented cockpit features a small, sporty airbag-equipped three-spoke MOMO steering wheel similar to the new WRX STi. Both 4AT and 5AT sport models are blessed with tiptronic-style upshift/downshift buttons on the steering wheel.
Inside, the tachometer and speedometer are equally emphasized, clear and informative with a subdued classy style. Seating is top-notch, managing to coddle you on long trips while giving you a measure of control while canyon carving. Hurtling the car around Fuji International, however, reveals the car exhibits higher limits than the side bolstering.
Handling is far more neutral than most Subaru's of late. A quick 15:1 steering ratio matches up well with the smaller three-spoke steering wheel, a combination that enables quick reflexes. When you enter the corner at speed, there's a tiny bit of initial resistence that transforms into eye-opening amounts of turn-in through to apex. There's even some throttle-on oversteer on tap if you keep on the gas, allowing you to steer through the apex with all four tires howling as you power-drift on through.
The front MacPherson strut suspension is nearly identical to the Spec C STi, with significant strengthening around the wheelwell and the same forged-aluminum lower-arm, and even more caster than the Spec C STi. The rear continues with the multi-link, but this is a brand-new version that features a hefty forged one-piece aluminum trailing arm and hub carrier for vastly improved resistance to changes in toe. The upper link is also forged aluminum, and suspension hard points have been totally revamped.
The suspension is helped by 18-inch wheels and Bridgestone RE050A rubber - of Ferrari Enzo fame - with the rubber compound tuned for the Legacy. Although the Legacy's 2.0-liter bears a strong resemblance to the 2.5-liter STi motor on paper, it's in fact the motor STi appropriated for the WRX STi 8 (not sold in America). And it makes the same amount of horsepower as that car, but not quite the same amount of torque -250 lb-ft vs. 285 lb-ft.
Initially, the Subaru higher-ups had doubts that a single turbo setup could offer the low-end torque of the sequential twin-turbo setup used in top-line Legacys since 1993. But Kazuharu Ichikawa, a manager in the Engine Design Department, felt it could, and then proved it with the development of a twin-scroll EJ20 2.0-liter for the Legacy. Quick spool up was further enhanced by a new, specially designed 4-2 exhaust manifold.
To reduce weight, plastics make up the unique intake manifold and the intercooler end-tanks. The intercooler is a high-flow unit, smaller and angled for maximum efficiency with the hood scoop. Manual transmission models weigh 22 lbs less than a WRX STi, though the Spec B variant weighs 22 lbs more thanks to the heavier wheels, tires and brakes.
Throttle response is amazing thanks to the high-response turbo system and a dual-mass flywheel. Extra-strength engine and transmission mounts help get the power to the wheels.
The braking system has also been whacked with a very big performance stick. Similar to the STi is the ABS with EBD to keep things straight, and also similar to the STi on the Spec C is the huge ventilated brake rotors in the front. Along with that is a much larger and far more rigid 2-pot sliding caliper clamping down some rather large brake pads. Rear ventilated disk/one-pot sliding caliper finish off the job in the rear. All that translated into intense, fade-free stops even after several laps around the track.
Fundamental changes is an apt phrase for this car. Subaru made the decision to abandon the old and come out with something new from the ground up. This is a very important car for Subaru, literally it's future here in Japan and overseas. They went for a big roll of the dice here. We'd say they won this dice roll, and won it in a big way.
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First generation (1989–1994)

The first Legacy was introduced on February 1, 1989, as a larger companion to the company's Leone/Loyale. The worldwide introduction of the Legacy was a notable departure from Subaru products in the past. The Legacy was formally introduced January 23 1989 in Japan

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Second generation (1993–1999)

Second generation sales in Japan began October 7, 1993

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Third generation (1998–2003)

Subaru launched the third generation Japanese and world-market Legacy in June 1998, while the North American model was introduced in 2000. All USA models were equipped with standard, symmetrical all wheel drive. The Legacy is the only vehicle in this class that provides AWD as standard equipment in most international markets.

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Fourth generation (2003–2009)

On May 23 2003, Fuji Heavy Industries debuted the redesigned Legacy, known as the BL for sedan models and BP for wagons. It was released worldwide in 2004, with Subaru Indiana Automotive commencing production in January 2004 for the North American markets.

LEGACY SPEC B
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LEGACY GT
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LEGACY STi S402
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Fifth generation (2009–)
Production of the fifth generation Legacy began the last week of May 2009 at the Indiana location.[10] The 2010 Subaru Legacy was unveiled at 2009 New York Auto Show.[11] According to the Subaru website in Japan, the Legacy is due to be introduced in Japan on May 20, 2009.

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Postby Flex030 » August 16th, 2009, 10:01 am

Some info on the S402

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The 2008 Subaru Legacy STi S402 is their vision of what a mature, high-performance Legacy can be, the best-handling version of Subaru's mainstream sedan.

Unfortunately there will be just 402 examples of the 2008 Subaru Legacy STi S402, and you can buy one only if you live in Japan.

King of the Road
The S402's unique mesh grille is complemented by flared front fenders that have been widened an extra inch to enclose wider BBS rims and 235/40R18 Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires.

Same Power, More Response
The 2008 Subaru Legacy STi S402 has an Australian-spec, turbocharged 2.5-liter boxer four-cylinder under its hood, and STi has created a special calibration with a twin-scroll turbo, more boost, a tweaked ECU and low-restriction sports mufflers. This engine's output doesn't seem particularly different from the standard turbo engine, as it pumps out 282 horsepower at 5,600 rpm and 289 pound-feet of torque between 2,000 and 4,800 rpm. In fact, power and torque are both just marginally improved.

They were striving to enhance the whole driving experience." By carefully tuning the S402's boxer to the six-speed manual transmission from the Impreza WRX STi and revising some of the gear ratios, the STi engineers have created an engine that might have been taken straight out of a rally car. Some 95 percent of peak torque is available at just 1,800 rpm and it also pulls strongly right up to 6,000 rpm. As a result, you can now take 2nd-gear corners in 3rd gear thanks to the beefy bottom-end torque and instant throttle response, so there's more traction and more control.

On the Road
As you're extracting the torque from the engine, punching the deliciously notchy shifter and shooting effortlessly around corners, it can be easy to forget the fact that the S402 comes standard with Subaru's SI-drive, which allows you to choose among three modes of power management. For some strange reason (well, maybe not that strange) we found ourselves flicking the SI-drive to the Sport Plus position and testing the upper reaches of the gutsy power curve.

If you were to describe the way the S402 responds to the driver, you'd say "instant." There's less play from the throttle action and less wind-up in the drivetrain than you find in the conventional Legacy, so the power seems to get to the wide Bridgestones without wasting time or motion. Subaru's own stability control is also fitted as standard equipment, so the car will catch you if you get into trouble, but intervention comes only after you've exhausted the resources of the exquisitely balanced all-wheel-drive system.

The S402 also turns into a corner with instant response thanks to reconfigured steering, and the feedback from the tires is superbly communicative. Tatsumi has tweaked the steering rack with a quick 13.0:1 ratio (replacing the standard 15.0:1 ratio), and then helped the car respond to such inputs with special STi-tuned dampers and springs. But Tatsumi is most proud of the S402's secret weapons for Nürburgring goodness — three semi-flexible reinforcement bars to not only improve chassis rigidity but also tune it. There's one between the top of the front suspension struts, one between the bottom of the front struts, and a third across the rear suspension towers in the trunk.

The Magic of the Bars
The Subaru Legacy STi S402 goes exactly where you want it to go and keeps all four tires firmly planted at the same time. But more than that, the construction of the bars with their semi-flexible midsections help the chassis absorb those brief, unwanted lurches as the car changes direction, so the car feels magically composed. Meanwhile, the chassis reinforcement enhances feedback from the tires just as you'd expect. The combination is pure magic, and the S402 has an overall feel that's as close to perfection as we've ever experienced.

It's just a pity about the swanky seats with their soft leather upholstery, which unfortunately don't quite offer the support you need when pushing through fast bends. But then, as Tatsumi pointed out more than once, the S402 is a grand touring car, and it actually rides much better than the high-performance Subaru Legacy GT spec.B with its 18-inch tires.

We don't have to forgive anything about the brakes, though. They are phenomenally powerful, featuring Brembo-built, six-piston, monoblock front calipers and two-piston rear calipers. The S402 might be the first-ever Japanese sedan with a brake package that actually feels overengineered. One STi engineer later admitted that four-piston Brembos would have been more than adequate for the S402, but STi felt this car needed something special.

The combination of progressive pedal action, no brake fade and good tire grip means you can go deeper into a corner with the Legacy STi S402 than just about any sedan we've tested before. And because the S402 features standard rotors without slots or drilled holes, there's no risk of cracking these rotors with abuse, and there's no squeal during daily driving, either.

Subaru might think the S402 is a simple GT-style sedan, but we beg to differ. It's got a Momo-built steering wheel with an STi logo, a leather-trimmed S402 shift knob, aluminum-covered pedals, an STi speedo calibrated to 260 km/h (150 mph), carbon-fiber-style trim, cupholders with special red illumination and a bright red ignition button. This car is plainly built to be punished with speed.

The manufacturer provided Edmunds this vehicle for the purposes of evaluation.

For more info on the S402 click link:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=127309

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Cool Air Intake FYI

Postby dillkeva » August 20th, 2009, 1:51 pm

Guy's, i installed an AEM cool air intake on my 04 Spec B Legacy, and woooo, it made such a difference on performance and the sound from the engine is really great. You can hear the blow off even louder. It even seem to burn a little less gas.

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Postby Flex030 » August 20th, 2009, 1:59 pm

Great!!!!!
Put up some pics lets see how it looking.... :wink:

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Postby Flex030 » August 25th, 2009, 8:02 pm

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Please keep in mind guys we live in the Tropics... :wink:
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***************Recommended Materials*******************

1. FLUID
Use the fluids specified in the table below. Do not mix two different kinds or makes of fluid.
CAUTION:
Be sure to use the recommended or equivalent ATF for 5AT. Using the ATF other than recommended or equivalent would be a trouble cause.

Automatic
transmission
fluid

4AT SUBARU ATF K0410Y0700
Alternative
Idemitsu:
Aporoil ATF HP
Castrol:Transmax J
Pennzoil Quakerstate:
Pennzoil ATF-J
DEXRON III

5AT SUBARU ATF K0410Y0700
Alternative
Idemitsu:
Aporoil ATF HP
Castrol: Transmax J
Pennzoil Quakerstate:
Pennzoil ATF-J

Power steering
fluid DEXRON III

Brake fluid
FMVSS No. 116 DOT3

Clutch fluid
FMVSS No. 116 DOT3


2. COOLANT
Use genuine coolant to protect the engine

Coolant SUBARU coolant 000016218

Cooling system conditioner SOA635071

Water Distilled water — Tap water
for dilution (Soft water)

3. REFRIGERANT
Standard air conditioners on Subaru vehicles use HFC134a refrigerant.
Do not mix it with other refrigerants.
Also, do not use any compressor oil other than DENSO OIL 8.

Refrigerant HFC134a -

Compressor oil DENSO OIL 8 -

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Postby jcrew » August 28th, 2009, 4:40 am

Extremely good thread! Thanks man

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Postby 16 cycles » August 28th, 2009, 8:18 am

Flex030 - you definitely raise the bar with this one...


standing ovation yo....well done !!!!

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Postby Flex030 » August 28th, 2009, 9:39 am

Thanks guys, feel free to add stuff... :wink:

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Postby Flex030 » September 10th, 2009, 11:11 am

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The new Liberty GT Premium is the the fifth-generation Liberty replacing the superceded GT Spec B having more power, more performance and more equipment.

The engine capacity is the same as before -- turbocharged 2.5-litre four-cylinder -- but power and torque are up, from 184kW to 195kW and 339Nm to 350Nm. Significantly, the peak torque is available across a much broad rev range, from 2400rpm to a high 5200rpm. This makes the new Liberty GT much more driveable which we'll get to that shortly.

The extra power comes courtesy of the significant changes to the turbocharger and the intercooler. The turbocharger has a larger compressor (or turbine) and the unit itself has been mounted closer to the exhaust port. This has the net result of boosting power sooner in the rev range. And a 25 per cent larger intercooler improves overall efficiency.

The choice of transmissions is the same as before: five-speed automatic with sports shift or a six-speed manual. We drove the manual version, as it's most likely to appeal to enthusiasts.The power delivery is much smoother than before, but you can also feel the car's new levels of eagerness. Throttle response is impressive and it takes a while to tame your right foot.

Despite the new Liberty's bigger body putting on weight (at 1564kg it is 19kg heavier than its predecessor) fuel consumption has dropped from 10.9L/100km to 9.7L/100km.

The Liberty cabin is a pleasant place to be. There's more room for back seat passengers, because there is now more distance between the front and rear wheels. The body structure is bigger and safer (earning high 34.8 out of 37 five-star score from independent crash test authority Australian NCAP) and a driver's knee airbag brings the airbag tally to seven, standard across all Liberty models.

The Liberty has certainly matured over the years; this one feels like it's gone to finishing school. The cabin layout and controls are clear, simple and stylish.

It makes sense when you consider that this top end model in the Liberty range is designed to compete with the Audi A4, BMW 3 Series and Mercedes C-Class. Of course, at this price, you get a fairly breathless four-cylinder engine from the German marques whereas in the Subaru you get absolute power.

The Liberty GT Premium is a nice drive and the grip is superb. The trade-off for that grip, however, is the slightly noisy tyres, depending on the surface. The other minor foible is that the electric park brake button needs illumination. It's hard to find at night.
Apart from that there's a lot to like about the new Liberty GT.

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Postby InsanityReigns » September 11th, 2009, 11:41 am

Flex030 wrote:***************Recommended Materials*******************

1. FLUID
Use the fluids specified in the table below. Do not mix two different kinds or makes of fluid.
CAUTION:
Be sure to use the recommended or equivalent ATF for 5AT. Using the ATF other than recommended or equivalent would be a trouble cause.

Automatic
transmission
fluid

4AT SUBARU ATF K0410Y0700
Alternative
Idemitsu:
Aporoil ATF HP
Castrol:Transmax J
Pennzoil Quakerstate:
Pennzoil ATF-J
DEXRON III

5AT SUBARU ATF K0410Y0700
Alternative
Idemitsu:
Aporoil ATF HP
Castrol: Transmax J
Pennzoil Quakerstate:
Pennzoil ATF-J

Power steering
fluid DEXRON III

Brake fluid
FMVSS No. 116 DOT3

Clutch fluid
FMVSS No. 116 DOT3


2. COOLANT
Use genuine coolant to protect the engine

Coolant SUBARU coolant 000016218

Cooling system conditioner SOA635071

Water Distilled water — Tap water
for dilution (Soft water)

3. REFRIGERANT
Standard air conditioners on Subaru vehicles use HFC134a refrigerant.
Do not mix it with other refrigerants.
Also, do not use any compressor oil other than DENSO OIL 8.

Refrigerant HFC134a -

Compressor oil DENSO OIL 8 -


I have a EJ20 2006 Legacy non-turbo with tiptronic which fluid should I use the 4AT or 5AT.
Sorry I new to this, so forgive me for being clueless :)

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Postby Flex030 » September 11th, 2009, 2:35 pm

No need to apologise buddy we were all once new at it. Congrats on your new ride take good care of it, change your fluids on time and all would be ok… :D

The best fluids would always be the OEM (Original Subaru) if you could get it.... :wink:

If not use the alternatives listed for the 5A/T
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Postby InsanityReigns » September 12th, 2009, 2:47 pm

Anybody ever tried the amsoil 20w 50 for the engine oil?
Wanted to know how good it is.

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Postby Flex030 » September 12th, 2009, 7:19 pm

^^^Royal purple, Amsoil, Castrol, Redline, Mobil 1 are all good.

There are a lot of threads here on engine oil just do a search... :wink:

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Postby Flex030 » September 12th, 2009, 7:24 pm

The New 2010 Legacy Spec B front mounted Turbo set up

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Postby arrivedalive » September 16th, 2009, 12:08 am

two questions

i have a 2006 legacy, well in transit but a guy was telling me they are noted for engine problems is this true

next question a next person said the reason for engine problem is the viscosity of the oil and if i use like 20w 50 or so i would safe

what is your opinon???

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Postby Flex030 » September 16th, 2009, 11:57 am

legacy_specB, Those are some good questions but where heat is concern it should be getting more air hitting it in the front than at the rear plus the design was set up for a even faster spool up.... :wink:

arrivedalive, Who is the guy that telling you this crap about legacy’s being noted for engine problems? BS.

So if the guy told you that the "engine problem" is the viscosity of the oil then the problem is not the engine, it’s the oil?

A lot of ppl are using the wrong viscosity of oil in their cars be it N/A or boosted.
The problem is ppl are reading a lot of web forums and in those countries it is very cold so they would use thinner oil (30 body) in tropical countries where it is hotter we should use 40-50 body oil.

I use Royal Purple 15w 40 in my car and it works fine. I prefer 40 over 50 unless you hammer your car a lot and run it at high temp.

Use the correct oil, change all your fluids on time and you would be just fine... :wink:

Search the Subaru forum there are loads of information on here to boost your confidence... :D

Congrats!!! on your new car you would love it.... :twisted:

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Postby arrivedalive » September 16th, 2009, 3:41 pm

thanks for the info flex i thought my NZE had a fast acceleration but boy i needed to drive a subie

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Postby Flex030 » September 16th, 2009, 6:35 pm

No probs that's what we, the guys at LGT are here for... :wink:

I Hope to see you at the next meet... :D

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Postby Flex030 » September 22nd, 2009, 6:21 pm

Bumping useful threads and washing out the useless one.... :x

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Postby Flex030 » September 30th, 2009, 5:12 pm

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Blitzen (the German word for lightning) combines the potent ability of the existing Liberty 3.0R spec.B with a long list of body and interior changes to produce a car with unique personality.

Available in bright red or obsidian black, it includes a new aerodynamic package including front grille, front and rear bumpers, side sills, roof spoiler on the wagon and 18-inch alloy wheels - underpinned by the safety of Subaru’s famed All-Wheel Drive.

Just 200 of these superb touring cars are available, in both automatic and manual transmission variants, sedan and wagon.

Liberty Blitzen’s sporty character is highlighted by wider bumpers, flared sills and the honeycomb grille. The wheel pattern is also unique to the model.

The 3.0 litre horizontally opposed boxer engine is the same as that which powered the Liberty 3.0R to its recent win in the combined national motoring organization awards, as Australia’s Best Luxury Car under $57,000.

Liberty Blitzen is expected to be available in June 2006, for a strictly limited period. Pricing will be announced closer to the release date.

It shares the same independent ANCAP five-star crashworthiness rating for occupant safety as all other Liberty variants.

Nick Senior, Managing Director, Subaru Australia, said: “For some years Subaru fans in Australia have followed the various Blitzen versions available in Japan.

“We’re delighted to reward their interest with this limited edition, prepared especially for the Australian market. Once again it demonstrates the high regard that Fuji Heavy Industries has for our Australian customers, tailoring a car especially for our domestic needs.

“It’s got tremendous road presence and combined with the highly acclaimed chassis set-up and engine of the Liberty 3.0R spec.B, we think there will be considerable interest.â€

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Postby gunsmoke » October 7th, 2009, 10:54 pm

how much for one of these locally >2007. 0X

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Postby VexXx Dogg » October 8th, 2009, 9:58 am

gunsmoke wrote:how much for one of these locally >2007. 0X


est 400K UP for turbo model.
270K UP for nonturbo.

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Postby Flex030 » October 12th, 2009, 1:47 pm

Subaru Legacy S401 STi version , MY03 JDM

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Specifications:
Drivetrain
- Close ratio 6 speed manual
- Handicrafted twin turbo EJ20 / Unique ECU tuned by STI

Performance
- Max. output kw(ps)/rpm: 216(293)/6400
- Max. torque Nm(kgm)/rpm: 343(35.0)/4400-5600

Chassis
- Suspention: BILSTEIN/STI BSS Suspention Kit
- Brakes: brembo performance brake system
- Wheels: 18" BBS/STI forged aluminum-alloy
- Tires: 215/40ZR18 Pirelli P-Zero Nero

Interior
- Audio: McIntosh premium audio system
- Navi: Kenwood Hybrid HDD navi system

More about S401 and pics click:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/657276

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Postby RB25-DET » October 16th, 2009, 1:07 pm

Hats off to Flex an Legacy specB for proving very useful information about the legacys, keep it up guys :D :D

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Postby swift gti funatic » October 25th, 2009, 10:52 pm

whats the difference between the spec b gt and the normal gt?? is it really worth it "performace" wise to get the spec b over the gt?

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Postby Adelante » October 30th, 2009, 7:34 pm

Can anyone add some info on the 2004 GT. I might be getting one soon.

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Postby Adelante » October 31st, 2009, 6:05 pm

In term of body parts and mechanical. would it be safe to say that the 05 will work on the 04. Also whats the difference in performance. I could be wrong, but i noticed that in the 04 the max on the gauge was like 220km/h and in the 05 (haven't seen the 06) was 180km/h. so does it mean slower acceleration but high top end in the 04. vice-verser with the 05...


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