Use of HID lights in place of fog lights

live67 · Street 2NR Joined: 02 Feb 2009 Tech posts: 59 My 2NRide:

I would like to find out the views of the forum members on the use of HIDs as replacement for fog lights.

I was under the impression that fog lights were deemed illegal by the Licensing Authority, though I'm not too sure.

My understanding also is that the white light of the HIDs is insufficient to pierce fog or heavy rainfall and thus is of no use in adverse weather conditions.

Only the yellow fog lights is capable of piercing fog or heavy rainfall.

What are your views on this?

cinco · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject:

1. they are deemed illegal through some archaic law
2. hid's can be had in 3000k colour which is yellow/gold
3. where in trini have fog?
4. my personal experience is fogs do not light sufficiently to warrant the need for hids (hey it looks cool though)
5. personal experience again anything over say 6000k is useless in rain on a dark night

pioneer · Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 2:44 pm Post subject:

You have to be very stupid and of limited mental capacity to put HID's in your foglights...or in your headlight if you do not have the proper optics to support HID bulbs.

I'm glad licensing now coming out at night and pulling many of these fools off the roads

Rahtid · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:27 am Post subject:

i am currently putting 8k hids in my foglights,and 8k-10k in headlights,lol,

slacker_jack · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:39 am Post subject:

Hook

yeh cinco, we have fog in T'dad...it's rare, but we do occasionally on the plains, but it's more prevalent in the hills on cold mornings

but Trinis don't understand the use and purpose of fog lamps

Fog lamps are mounted low on the vehicle to provide a means of back lighting on the road surface BEHIND any weather phenomena such as fog or heavy rainfall which would otherwise reflect incident light from headlamps (called back scatter) into the eyes of the driver.
They're not supposed to have any major vertical throw (for back scatter)or horizontal throw (because when conditions warrant their use, you're supposed to slow and drive more cautiously anyway) and typically illuminate either a 120-140degree beam pattern in the neighbourhood of around 20ft from the vehicle.

now to attempt to address your concerns

slacker_jack · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:41 pm Post subject:

wait nah, is pioneer I just quote there? Shocked

I am beginning to become deeply disturbed by the fact that I have been finding myself agreeing with this idiot more & more everyday Sad

Hook · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject:

^^^

Rahtid · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:49 pm Post subject:

Hook,

i wanna use white ones(6k) in the headlights and 8k-10k in the fogs, what would u recommend,btw,the bluish ones in the fogs are for 'bling' eh,

Hook · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:57 pm Post subject:

do what u need to do for bling factor really, once it doesn't become a nuisance to oncoming traffic...but me personally, I'm all for practicality so 5000K max on anything

when I had my hatchback with fogs, the spread was mighty wide and I was using a brand of iridescent coated H3 bulbs which gave off 4300K light 150degrees across the front 5" off the ground at 40ft from the car with a very sharp vertical cut-off (Hella Optilux projector fogs) so 'twas very useful for early morning/late night runs on the North Coast road as it lit the corners far outside what my headlamps were capable of doing...u do what's best for you when u do your research

Rahtid · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:00 pm Post subject:

Hook,

thnx,,,where did u get those hellas?

i can do wit 5-6k in headlights,,but i just want the blu for fogs

live67 · Street 2NR Joined: 02 Feb 2009 Tech posts: 59 My 2NRide:

Hook,

You look like you have that headlights research thing down.

My question is: where do I get the projector cases for the HID kits?

Thanks.

Hook · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:03 pm Post subject:

live67, there's a thread either on here or in the Toyota forum where Terran was researching it and was able to get a link to import HID compatible projector headlamps

Rahtid, bought 'em online from matrixracing.com

Rahtid · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:05 pm Post subject:

Hook,

pm yuh number plz,,some other business proposals nah,

can i get that for a 99 civic?

Hook · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject:

it's not car specific....universal business...not sure if the site has car specific kits for 99Civic, but u can check
and what ummm, "business proposals"? Confused

Suzuki Sportsman · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:31 pm Post subject:

Quotes taken from this thread HID Do's & Don'ts - The HID Lighting Tutorial
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live67 · Street 2NR Joined: 02 Feb 2009 Tech posts: 59 My 2NRide:

"so hids are really no good in adverse weather conditions in the night, that is very interesting to know"

No. You not reading the information properly.

Re-read Hook explanation at the start. If it wasn't good in adverse weather conditions, manufacturers would never install it.

The problem is the retro-fitting done, without the proper optic lenses in the projector cases.

cinco · Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject:

and the colour of the temp hids used human eyes process yellow light much better than blue/white/purple