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Can larger engine fit in the engine compartment on EK4?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:26 pm
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I currently have an EK4 with a B16A.

Can a Prelude or Accord engine fit in the engine compartment?

Additionally, can the new model engines for new civics fit in the old EK4?

What sort of modifications have to be done in either case in order to make them fit?


Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:36 pm
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D Prelude (H22) wud fit. Also I think the Accord ones will as well. Y go thru yhis hassle? Wah wrong wit yuh current motor?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:42 pm
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Nothing. Just want more torque and hp....not just a few extra hp from a minor upgrade.

What you think? Waste of time?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:50 pm
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do not know what coin u playin with

these are the options

1. B18c type R
2. k20 type R
3. H22
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:22 pm
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engines from the new civics # sick # sick
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:14 pm
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live67 wrote:
Nothing. Just want more torque and hp....not just a few extra hp from a minor upgrade.

What you think? Waste of time?
Hmm..wah budget yuh workin with? Some good quality parts an yuh shud b in order Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:51 pm
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zim u could jumo high and low to get torque out a NA b16 hard

u better off adding a turbo to it
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:00 pm
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wat those new civics engines are? normal b16a or d15b?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:13 pm
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im a sucker for the b18c5.
imho the best STOCK b series ever made. (yes even better then b16b)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:45 pm
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red_dragon wrote:
zim u could jumo high and low to get torque out a NA b16 hard

u better off adding a turbo to it
Not with my past cars Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:52 pm
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:19 pm
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live67 wrote:
I currently have an EK4 with a B16A.

Can a Prelude or Accord engine fit in the engine compartment?

Additionally, can the new model engines for new civics fit in the old EK4?

What sort of modifications have to be done in either case in order to make them fit?


Thanks.


the h22 will fit...coincidentally supastarr has a mount kit available for sale,so it'll be more or less a direct bolt in Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:00 am
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What about axles? would they work on it? or you have to rejoin axles?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:30 am
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Cheapest option:

-B18c block, replace pistons with type-Rs
-bore out to 81.5mm (or 82mm if you adventurous)
-Get someone to build it properly for you

You would be reusing your b16a head/cams/transmission etc

You won't have to buy any mounts/axles/ecu/gearbox

I figure it can be done for around $8000 installed... that is of course if you can find a B18c block

If not ls-vtec build will give you the torque you wanted at the price of some rpm

B18c is not the torqueiest motor out there, but its enought to get a EK4 moving, and should be a nice bump over that b16a

BTW all the new engines honda makes are crap, with the exception of the venerable K-series
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:02 am
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I have the whole H22 swap for sale, Innovative mounts engine gearbox et al, was goin to put it in my EK hatch but, i have issues, so i can afford to complete now
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:44 am
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Do you need a larger fuel pump for a larger engine, or can I still use the old fuel pump for the B16A?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:11 am
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red_dragon wrote:
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live67 wrote:
Do you need a larger fuel pump for a larger engine, or can I still use the old fuel pump for the B16A?
U hell bent on swapping eh?

Wah is yuh budget an wah mods u have now?

Get a Walboro 255lph in tank pump.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:01 am
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i would advise he get a b18c

he won't need any conversion equipment and the car will pull way better
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:59 am
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JDM_GUY,using back his B series axles seeing H are longer

live67,stick with you B16a take the money you was gonna swap either jus swap for B18b bottom end. and minor bolt on and a tune. that should make you happy for now other than that go boost dun the talk. B16a better than most men admit.

put aside 15k and you more than running a certain silent DC5 ITR
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:07 pm
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15k on a b16a will beat a k20?

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