The 4AGE maintainence/mod thread

corollalover101 · Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:16 am Post subject: The 4AGE maintainence/mod thread

Ok I'm seeing a lil smoke coming out when I rev up top, i'm suspecting that the rings may be going bad, engine is a 4AGE 20V Silvertop doing around 165000 KM.
Has anyone ever changed their rings and where were they sourced, wanna get an average of what this will cost me in terms of cash and downtime

pyromaniak · Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:45 am Post subject:

Hmmm..... I was watchin the smoke at dex and was wondering if your valve seals were bad.

Ralph is going to Barbados at the end of November he should be able to pick them up from Nasco.

Other than that order from Toyota here and wait ah 4-6 weeks.

sadique · Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:37 am Post subject:

padna u dont hav to wait dat long... u cud get rings in any parts place..im tlkin about RIK-rings..STD 4AFE normally for d AE101...iv tried it & it works..it costs bout $350.-$400!

corollalover101 · Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject:

sadique, I'll look into that, thanks

sadique · Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject:

rolling_hard · Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject:

sadique, where exactly u getting those ring i need a set

Dave · Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:36 pm Post subject:

most of the times its the valve seals and if oil loss is non-existent then valve seals could be the culprit

yes i also know someone who used 4afe rings on the 4age and the RIK brand is a Japanese one and works very well

cressida_override · Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject:

from my recent experience if u get smoke while reving hard or when u start could be valve seals, if u get smoke constantly while driving it will be rings.....downtime could be a couple days, depends on mechanic! check gobins or a1 auto supplies for the parts.

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corollalover101 · Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:16 am Post subject:

as this thread is up maybe I could expand my database, so next question
Outside of Toyota has anyone sourced the valve seals for the 20V?

TRD_FACTORY · Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject:

I have a new set of forged pistons with rings for the 16v 4age 8.9cr. Not sure if it will work on the 20v?

corollalover101 · Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject:

doubtful the cr on a 20V is 10. and 11.0

corollalover101 · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:11 am Post subject:

corollalover101 · Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject:

Right so I'll be changing the valve seals, rings, head gasket and grinding the valves. Hopefully I'll get another 16 years out the engine #Fade in

33 hertz · Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject:

What bout bearings, timing belt, water pump?

corollalover101 · Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject:

timing belt, cam seals, front seals, thermostat were changed already, might change water pump , doubtful about bearings, some items a bit difficult to source

Anton · Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:02 am Post subject:

The water pump change is a good addition to your already stellar list.

corollalover101 · Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:40 am Post subject:

thanks 33 hertz, and Anton, this is the purpose of the thread to allow for brainstorming and for those who've gone before to share their experience, I know that for my other 'rollas I get water pumps outside, is any pump from the more popular engines compatible with the 4AGE?

I've also decided to swap the stock fuel pump with one from the Supra Turbo, it's a straight drop in and I'll add an HKS FCD, to eliminate fuel cut, the car is by no means intended to be a speed demon, just a reliable daily driver with all creature comforts and it's still automatic Smile

dmitc · Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:01 am Post subject:

Anton · Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:40 am Post subject:

the pump for the 20v is readily available. I had gotton mines at Gobin's in St Augustine. The 16 v pump will line up, but the impellar, gasket and pulley is different.