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#21: Author: krack korn, Location: N 03° 06.9267' ; E 06° 51.1701'

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:09 pm
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honda4life, what kind ah car yuh have, different brands work better in different cars. GIC is a good all round reasonable brand, just have tuh clean black dust off yuh rims kinda often. I have had good performance with the Bosch too, bit more expensive dan the GIC. Wagner as well.

venum, read my first post and follow instructions doh chinks on d grease but doh go wild with it either or it go get on de rotor eventually. when yuh say grease d caliper ah getting ah vision of yuh dipping it in grease dat is not d idea eh.
hope yuh noise sort out man.

#22: Author: venum, Location: San Fernando

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:53 pm
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thanx for the advice man

will update when I do the greasing

#23: Author: bleedingfreak,

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:42 am
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Rubbing down the rotor after machining is a normal thing eh... I have seen it done myself.

WRT brake squeal, the BIGGEST problem comes from not having the proper shim kit. Your best bet is to get the original kits.

I lost my original set (when I had the Lancer) and for a couple years it squeaked. Tried all different brands of brake pads with shim kits and grease... the works! But it never stopped. Finally, I got a set of used shim kits in the bamboo. Problem solved.

#24: Author: Mitsu_Exec, Location: POS

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:50 am
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krack korn wrote:

Use the brake grease, ask around, plenty auto parts place have it, if yuh in south ah know Checks on cipero street have it for sure, called brake grease, rubber grease or rubber compatible grease.

I find the anti sieze more cost effective for all non rubber applications, get the rubber grease service your pins and the holes where they go, put new grease ,all areas I mentioned before, and see what happen. Noise from the pins is typically a clicking sound doh ah just telling yuh to do dat while yuh have everything out one time. GIC is semi metallic and u may not be able to eleminate the odd squeak.

premium metallic

Cool

#25: Author: blazing,

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:37 pm
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allyuh should get some ceramic

#26: Author: bleedingfreak,

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:43 pm
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Ceramic what?

#27: Author: blazing,

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:51 pm
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ceramic brake pads

#28: Author: bleedingfreak,

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:30 pm
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Why? What's the advantages? Cost? Applications?

#29: Author: Mitsu_Exec, Location: POS

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:27 pm
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bleedingfreak wrote:

Ceramic what?

ceramic microwaveable dishes

Confused

#30: Author: krack korn, Location: N 03° 06.9267' ; E 06° 51.1701'

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:27 pm
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Mitsu_Exec, premium is a quality rating, the GIC pads from FT are semi-metallic. For instance TSTT has been offering premium telecommunication services for how long?

Just because it says premium on the box doesn't mean anything.

It good tuh see yuh could read though, just not enough.

blazing, yuh absolutely right about the shims, even if yuh shims intact and the plastic coating come off yuh could get some problems with noise but I find it's effect does vary from car to car. I remove mines except for the stainless one on d piston side and ent get no noise. Also venum check yuh shield it could get involved in the orchestra sometimes.

Last edited by krack korn on Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:09 pm; edited 1 time in total

#31: Author: krack korn, Location: N 03° 06.9267' ; E 06° 51.1701'

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:30 pm
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bleedingfreak, ah just copy and paste here, cost yuh go have tuh find on yuh own, ah could tell yuh it expensiveish. Some original evo pads ceramic based

"Since they were first used on a few original equipment applications in 1985, friction materials that contain ceramic formulations have become recognized for their desirable blend of traits. These pads use ceramic compounds and copper fibers in place of the semi-metallic pad's steel fibers. This allows the ceramic pads to handle high brake temperatures with less heat fade, provide faster recovery after the stop, and generate less dust and wear on both the pads and rotors. And from a comfort standpoint, ceramic compounds provide much quieter braking because the ceramic compound helps dampen noise by generating a frequency beyond the human hearing range.

Another characteristic that makes ceramic materials attractive is the absence of noticeable dust. All brake pads produce dust as they wear. The ingredients in ceramic compounds produce a light colored dust that is much less noticeable and less likely to stick to the wheels. Consequently, wheels and tires maintain a cleaner appearance longer.

Ceramic pads meet or exceed all original equipment standards for durability, stopping distance and noise. According to durability tests, ceramic compounds extend brake life compared to most other semi-metallic and organic materials and outlast other premium pad materials by a significant margin – with no sacrifice in noise control, pad life or braking performance.

This is quite an improvement over organic and semi-metallic brake materials that typically sacrifice pad life to reduce noise, or vice versa."

#32: Author: venum, Location: San Fernando

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:30 pm
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my shields good

ah know how the noise from the shield does sound

mine ent sounding so at all

mine kinda sometimeish

#33: Author: MonsterPower, Location: Install bay open !! bring ur car to transform

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:12 am
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last time i had that problem my mechanic took out the pads and took a hacksaw and cut a seperator in between the middle of the pad and this worked miracles,what had happened is that teh replacement ones come as a whole pad and not seperated in half like teh original so teh dust had no way to go so it just got stuck in between teh pad and rototr and caused it to sqeak after he did this it all went away

#34: Author: bleedingfreak,

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:54 am
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Some really good info there guys! Wink

#35: Author: venum, Location: San Fernando

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:06 am
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MonsterPower wrote:

last time i had that problem my mechanic took out the pads and took a hacksaw and cut a seperator in between the middle of the pad and this worked miracles,what had happened is that teh replacement ones come as a whole pad and not seperated in half like teh original so teh dust had no way to go so it just got stuck in between teh pad and rototr and caused it to sqeak after he did this it all went away

yea ah know bout that

but not all replacement ones come as a whole pad

Acco has the groove

Daishin doesn't

cyar remember if the GIC's that I currently have on have it

I think they do

#36: Author: Mitsu_Exec, Location: POS

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:43 am
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krack korn wrote:

Mitsu_Exec, premium is a quality rating, the GIC pads from FT are semi-metallic. For instance TSTT has been offering premium telecommunication services for how long?

Just because it says premium on the box doesn't mean anything.

It good tuh see yuh could read though, just not enough.

ammm...before u pop all ur Korn buddy, i'll verify ur info soon!

my personal investigation...along with another tuner, was that these pads are fully metallic. if AT ALL semi...i'd still go with a 75/25 ratio based on the chunks of metal and so on noticed on the pad, the limited dust and the finish properties of the pad when well worn.

and its NOT good to see that u compare phone service ad slogans with quality rating of auto parts...

Confused

#37: Author: Mitsu_Exec, Location: POS

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:51 am
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venum wrote:

cyar remember if the GIC's that I currently have on have it

I think they do

no groove buddy. installed a set this weekend and cut a lil groove in the centre!

Cool

#38: Author: Dave, Location: playing with above and below

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:00 am
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no groove buddy

u is not a dancer boy then Laughing

i have a box home, will post the pics 2morrow
honestly, the only 2 pads that actually work in trini that are moderately priced are gic and fbl, italian and japanese made resp.

#39: Author: venum, Location: San Fernando

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:55 pm
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GIC stopping the car pretty good

nothing extraordinary bout them, but they wukin

#40: Author: Mitsu_Exec, Location: POS

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:40 pm
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venum wrote:

GIC stopping the car pretty good

nothing extraordinary bout them, but they wukin

yuh was expecting BREMBO difference? at $75 a set? Laughing

but seriously tho, both Dave and I can assure u that they are without doubt a superior pad to others on the market. I've seen them hold up under some aggressive driving and well we dont need to hear bout Dave and his B14.

i'd give them more credit than that tho. it has a lot to do with ur existing application and other factor: DOT# fluid, rotor type, rotor condition, etc.

Cool

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