Nissan's SR20 VVL Neo vs Toyota's 20v
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#41:  Author: MJLocation: ...huh? PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:29 pm
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if it's stock revving past the 7200rpm redline would make no sense since no more power will be made

#42:  Author: QGLocation: Cross-Crossing, San Fernando PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:39 am
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MJ wrote:
if it's stock revving past the 7200rpm redline would make no sense since no more power will be made


You have a point.
But the ENGINE WAS ABLE TO REACH 160km/h in third gear (after rocking it from 2 to D-drive). Engine was real bawling, I thought he was gonna blow something on the highway.


Knight1, is not what I say, that's according to Nissan specs with 7200rpm being redline.
But knowing trini's, we always pushing things to the limit Cool

#43:  Author: Anton PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:14 am
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QG wrote:
Anton wrote:
The 20v would collect some licks on the 1/4 from the sr20vvl, but will hold its own on longer stretches.
Fact, not Fiction.



LOL Smile ...so does the VVL my friend


WRT to gearing. When i had the 20v ST in my AE92 i had it mated to a 3A gearbox. The ratios made for really fun driving. In 3rd gear the speedo would hit the end of the 180 kph journey with 4th and 5th still accelerating. The matchup with the neo in a Y10 is not fictional. I got cut arse in the 1/4 (the best it ever did was a 16.1) but the highway runs were always very competitive.


BTW i do not condone street racing in any form. Spirited driving under reasonably controlled circumstances is a different kettle of fish.

#44:  Author: boogeLocation: World PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:17 pm
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On the power band, i shift just before 7200rpm to maximise power. My engine is pushed to its limits.

Gear 3 - Im crossing 160km

#45:  Author: Supra GT-FOURLocation: STFU PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:46 am
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QG wrote:
sr20ve 7200 rpm according to specs.

I have personally seen VVLs making 8000rpm, 8500rpm and 9000rpm (this was automatic, using the 1, and 2 lever) and all on stock form. Laughing


What ecu were the said cars runnin? cause on a stock VE ecu there is a fuel cut at 7200RPM

And booge u real lucky to even know what speed u goin man. I usually have to guesstimate by the amount of vehicles i passin. Glad to see u enjoyin the VVL. When the MSS comin?

#46:  Author: boogeLocation: World PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:44 pm
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Supra GT-FOUR wrote:
QG wrote:
sr20ve 7200 rpm according to specs.

I have personally seen VVLs making 8000rpm, 8500rpm and 9000rpm (this was automatic, using the 1, and 2 lever) and all on stock form. Laughing


What ecu were the said cars runnin? cause on a stock VE ecu there is a fuel cut at 7200RPM

And booge u real lucky to even know what speed u goin man. I usually have to guesstimate by the amount of vehicles i passin. Glad to see u enjoyin the VVL. When the MSS comin?


MSS is in the country. Just need to hook up.

#47:  Author: Knight1Location: On terra firma PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:54 pm
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^^So I'm curious......why go from an SR20DET (based on another thread you posted), to an N/A VVL?

I'm sure a properly modded DET might be more "confident" against an N/A 20V?(Or am I wrong?)

#48:  Author: A172Location: inna lil blue car.... PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:29 pm
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Knight1 wrote:
^^So I'm curious......why go from an SR20DET (based on another thread you posted), to an N/A VVL?


#Popcornsmile

#49:  Author: Knight1Location: On terra firma PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:40 pm
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^^Ok....I guess I should retract my post then Shocked

A172 and a popcorn icon cyah be a good ting in dis kinda ched............ Shocked Shocked


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#50:  Author: A172Location: inna lil blue car.... PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:44 pm
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nah nah....leff it Laughing Laughing Laughing

#51:  Author: boogeLocation: World PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:33 pm
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Knight1 wrote:
^^So I'm curious......why go from an SR20DET (based on another thread you posted), to an N/A VVL? I'm sure a properly modded DET might be more "confident" against an N/A 20V?(Or am I wrong?)


Well, there has been a change in priorities. House, land, education etc. The mtce related costs on a turbo engine are quite high and could be put to better use especially in these times. Later on, i would definitely be starting a new project, but thats after some goals are achieved.

The VVL option gives me the best of all worlds > performance, duarability, and dependability. Arrow

#52:  Author: A172Location: inna lil blue car.... PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:38 pm
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righhhhhhhhht Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

#53:  Author: Knight1Location: On terra firma PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:24 am
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Quote:
The mtce related costs on a turbo engine are quite high


Really? I've never really found that to be more than a myth.

Oh well.....to each his own. Cool

#54:  Author: Supra GT-FOURLocation: STFU PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:25 am
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booge. all you have to do is check Anil an he go handle yuh[/b]

#55:  Author: boogeLocation: World PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:38 am
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^^^ Yes. Im checking him Saturday. This is the last thing which falls under the "wiring" up off the car.

A172 : Organise what you have for me - is it possible you can get Mobil 15 50?

#56:  Author: A172Location: inna lil blue car.... PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:08 am
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you now checking me for that? Laughing

nah I think 5w 50 is what I cud get my hands on up here.....lemme know.

#57:  Author: Supra GT-FOURLocation: STFU PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:35 am
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booge just a lil warnin when u get it wired up dont try messin with it too much (unless you can read japanese) cause it can be a pain navigating through the various menus and sub-menus trying to get it to work how you want it.
The MSS can monitor up to 3 paramaters (RPM, TPS, boost, Speed, Temp) and all you really want it to monitor is RPM alone and switch cams based on that

#58:  Author: RazkalLocation: sitting in Bertrand's Teapot PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:51 pm
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Anton wrote:
QG wrote:
Anton wrote:
The 20v would collect some licks on the 1/4 from the sr20vvl, but will hold its own on longer stretches.
Fact, not Fiction.



LOL Smile ...so does the VVL my friend


WRT to gearing. When i had the 20v ST in my AE92 i had it mated to a 3A gearbox. The ratios made for really fun driving. In 3rd gear the speedo would hit the end of the 180 kph journey with 4th and 5th still accelerating. The matchup with the neo in a Y10 is not fictional. I got cut arse in the 1/4 (the best it ever did was a 16.1) but the highway runs were always very competitive.


BTW i do not condone street racing in any form. Spirited driving under reasonably controlled circumstances is a different kettle of fish.


Cosign, anton's ae92 was the most fun 20V powered car i've been in, the 3A box's gearing made for some seriously awesome driving Very Happy

#59:  Author: boogeLocation: World PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:43 pm
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Supra GT-FOUR wrote:
booge just a lil warnin when u get it wired up dont try messin with it too much (unless you can read japanese) cause it can be a pain navigating through the various menus and sub-menus trying to get it to work how you want it.
The MSS can monitor up to 3 paramaters (RPM, TPS, boost, Speed, Temp) and all you really want it to monitor is RPM alone and switch cams based on that


Thanks for the info.

#60:  Author: boogeLocation: World PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:44 pm
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A172 wrote:
you now checking me for that? Laughing

nah I think 5w 50 is what I cud get my hands on up here.....lemme know.


Well didnt think you have to check someone if they have something for you ? - For a couple bucks less or more - can you purchase the 15 50 mobil. Im switching back to Mobil



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