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#21: Author: A172, Location: inna lil blue car....

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:05 am
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so the 20v needs a lot more time and distance to make any noticeable power then?

kool #Fade in

#22: Author: moti, Location: testing the asphalt

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:34 am
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which brings me to my question:

what kinda Hp we looking at here
the engine is stock though Embarassed

#23: Author: vans, Location: where ever d $ is

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:41 am
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in my situation i will get my arse buss??

#24: Author: corollalover101, Location: Giving the more fortunate a reason to be emotional

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:19 am
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The 20V is not a "drag"/ 1/4 mile engine, it's a high-revver more suited to circuit racing, to make it and effective 1/4 miler would require a lot of cash

#25: Author: booge, Location: World

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:54 am
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corollalover101 wrote:

The 20V is not a "drag"/ 1/4 mile engine, it's a high-revver more suited to circuit racing, to make it and effective 1/4 miler would require a lot of cash

So are you saying that from Grand Bazaar to Golconda, the Toyota 20v would be in the lead?

#26: Author: vans, Location: where ever d $ is

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:04 pm
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booge if you have a b14 vvl neo . my freind will be willing to race and we could settle once and for all

vvl vs 20v

#27: Author: QG, Location: Cross-Crossing, San Fernando

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:05 pm
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Anton wrote:

The 20v would collect some licks on the 1/4 from the sr20vvl, but will hold its own on longer stretches.
Fact, not Fiction.

LOL

...so does the VVL my friend

#28: Author: Hook, Location: Wondering why that fag is so obsessed with getting access to my facebook.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:18 pm
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Supra GT-FOUR wrote:

i really dont see the point in comparing a 1.6l 20 valve and a 2.0l sr20 vvl. efficiency is about hp per litre.
A more sutiable comparison would be the sr16-ve and the 20valve both having 1.6l displacement.
also what version of 20valve balcktop or silvertop?

why did this thread even continue after this statement?

#29: Author: moti, Location: testing the asphalt

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:20 pm
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moti wrote:

which brings me to my question:

what kinda Hp we looking at here
the engine is stock though Embarassed

somebody tell meh nah cause i not getting a stright answer from google or wiki Confused

#30: Author: corollalover101, Location: Giving the more fortunate a reason to be emotional

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:35 pm
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booge wrote:

corollalover101 wrote:

The 20V is not a "drag"/ 1/4 mile engine, it's a high-revver more suited to circuit racing, to make it and effective 1/4 miler would require a lot of cash

So are you saying that from Grand Bazaar to Golconda, the Toyota 20v would be in the lead?

my response was not in light of the SR20VVL since there are displacement issues, I was just stating my opinion of the engine given it's characteristics, as for who would be in the lead, there are many other factors to consider

#31: Author: skylineGTR55036018, Location: In The Bo0sted Lane

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:51 pm
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vvl engine has way more HP and Torque that the 20v...

i'd go with the b14...

dats a nice pull though...

#32: Author: Supra GT-FOUR, Location: STFU

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:04 pm
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Horsepower dis torque dat... it's amazing that nobody taking into account gearing. bearing in mind the 20valve blacktop comes with a 6 speed close ratio gearbox. and the earlier version (non20v) vvls NEVER came manual only with Hyper cvt M6.

#33: Author: Supra GT-FOUR, Location: STFU

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:52 am
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moti wrote:

which brings me to my question:

what kinda Hp we looking at here
the engine is stock though Embarassed

somebody tell meh nah cause i not getting a stright answer from google or wiki Confused

Chief like nobody aint taking u on... that pic looks like a 1st gen (1983-1987) rwd wide angle 4A-GE 16 valve it makes 112 hp (84 kW) at 6600 rpm and 131 N·m (97 lb·ft) of torque at 4800 rpm in the American version. Japanese version 130 hp (97 kW) dont know tq figures.

#34: Author: Keyser Soze,

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:06 am
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^^^Are those figures quoted in WHP or BHP?
Always luved that engine....

#35: Author: QG, Location: Cross-Crossing, San Fernando

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:37 am
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Supra GT-FOUR wrote:

Horsepower dis torque dat... it's amazing that nobody taking into account gearing. bearing in mind the 20valve blacktop comes with a 6 speed close ratio gearbox. and the earlier version (non20v) vvls NEVER came manual only with Hyper cvt M6.

You made a strong point there...but Booge is talking about a manual vvl in a b14.
vvl will take win

#36: Author: legoRB, Location: ah smellin ah turbo...............

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:08 pm
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Quote:

The 20V is not a "drag"/ 1/4 mile engine, it's a high-revver more suited to circuit racing, to make it and effective 1/4 miler would require a lot of cash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFh-RYKalso

The video above shows a toyota starlet kp62 20V vs nissan sentra sr20ve....

#37: Author: legoRB, Location: ah smellin ah turbo...............

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:13 pm
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^^^^^ this example of wat a 20v can do withsum $$$$ in it...........
stock on the other hand versus a sr20ve is anodah b-game.... Question

thas one is a toss up.... :

#38: Author: Supra GT-FOUR, Location: STFU

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:57 pm
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QG wrote:

Supra GT-FOUR wrote:

You made a strong point there...but Booge is talking about a manual vvl in a b14.
vvl will take win

I found some data on the ratios of the respective manual trnsmissions.
P11 RS5F32A Ratios (gearbox that comes with SR20-DE)
1st 3.0625
2nd 1.8261
3rd 1.2857
4th 0.9750
5th 0.7556
final drive 4.3750

toyota c160 ratios (6speed that comes with blacktop20v)
1st 3.166
2nd 2.050
3rd 1.481
4th 1.166
5th 0.916
6th 0.725
final drive 4.529

Also a point to note is that the blacktop 20valve has a redline of 7800rpm and the sr20ve a 7200rpm redline.

#39: Author: QG, Location: Cross-Crossing, San Fernando

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:48 pm
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sr20ve 7200 rpm according to specs.

I have personally seen VVLs making 8000rpm, 8500rpm and 9000rpm (this was automatic, using the 1, and 2 lever) and all on stock form. Laughing

#40: Author: Knight1, Location: On terra firma

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:28 pm
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Quote:

I have personally seen VVLs making 8000rpm, 8500rpm and 9000rpm (this was automatic, using the 1, and 2 lever) and all on stock form

Stock redline is 7200 rpm yuh say?

So therefore you're either saying that some owners aren't too bright (by overreving without blueprinting), or, the engine can hold its own against abuse?

Laughing

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