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#1: Nissan's SR20 VVL Neo vs Toyota's 20v Author: booge, Location: World

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:36 am
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Guys, coming out of this very good thread: http://forums.trinituner.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=247092&highlight=

Lets have a little discussion on the captured topic.

Nissan B-14 with SR20vvl Neo vs Toyota Corolla 101 with a 20v.

Both engines are stock for stock.

Technical contributions please

#2: Author: haydn28, Location: GTune Performance

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:51 am
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B14 shud win in my opinion ....that is obvious to any experienced racer or racing spectator.... the 2 cars would be around same weight , the 20v would put less power and torque to the ground and the sr would have a better midrange / lower band ,(and top end ) power band compared to the 20v. Booge i thought u is d tech guru since u always posting here , ent u supposed to know this...i hope this is NOT a chain up thread Rolling Eyes

#3: Author: booge, Location: World

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:11 pm
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Quote:

B14 shud win in my opinion ....that is obvious to any experienced racer or racing spectator.... the 2 cars would be around same weight , the 20v would put less power and torque to the ground and the sr would have a better midrange / lower band ,(and top end ) power band compared to the 20v. Booge i thought u is d tech guru since u always posting here , ent u supposed to know this...i hope this is NOT a chain up thread

^^ Welcome to a good discussion. However there are significant differences between the two engines that can lead to a toss up on the 1/4 mile.

This is the engine i was referring too : 4A-GE (20-valve) which has the following specs: This engine produces 160 PS (158 hp/118 kW) at 7400 rpm with 162 N·m (119 ft·lbf) at 5200 rpm of torque.

#4: Author: A.M. Distributors,

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:03 pm
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The corolla 101 would surprise you with the 20v,....IMHO the 20v will give the sr a run for its $$$$.

#5: Author: turbonator, Location: Mount Akagi

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:04 pm
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booge wrote:

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SR20VE 187 hp (139 kW) and 145 lb·ft (197 N·m) torque.

I guess the numbers speak for themselves. And as hayden28 said both cars are about equal in weight.

#6: Author: turbonator, Location: Mount Akagi

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:05 pm
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Only one way to know for sure Laughing

#7: Author: A.M. Distributors,

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:07 pm
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^^^ Laughing

true,...so this comparison havent been done on the track???

#8: Author: booge, Location: World

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:23 pm
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A.M. Distributors wrote:

^^^

true,...so this comparison havent been done on the track???

Interesting. Have this ever been done ?

#9: Author: A.M. Distributors,

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:31 pm
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most likely I'm sure it has,...I never saw it done though. Check the guys who be @ cross etc.

#10: Author: cinco, Location: Indrani gyal tell meh why yuh hornin meh

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:51 pm
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what is the weight diff between the vehicles and the engines though

#11: Author: QG, Location: Cross-Crossing, San Fernando

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:33 pm
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booge wrote:

A.M. Distributors wrote:

^^^

true,...so this comparison havent been done on the track???

Interesting. Have this ever been done ?

PM Foss, he had the corolla wagon with the 4A-GE 20VALVE engine and he raced a lucino with a SR16VVL on the cross.

The lucino won.

But the SR20VVL has more torque and power together with a moderate weight B14.....that should take win.

The mechanism behind the VVL built into the SR20 is a perfection.

I am willing to bet on a SR20VVL in a Primera as well, that would whoop any 4AGE vehicle equipped.

#12: Author: sentraman, Location: In meh Beef or teen

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:54 am
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So I have kinda tested this out booge lol..

A corolla with a 20V and my b14 with a sr20de have done this time and time again.. Level licks for the sr20de. More than a car length everytime.

But I am sure that a VVL is a different story so you are safe Twisted Evil

#13: Author: A172, Location: inna lil blue car....

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:59 am
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lol@ mumford

#14: Author: haydn28, Location: GTune Performance

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:57 pm
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Laughing

they doh like to hear the cold hard facts A172. i fed up get mumford Laughing

although if i were talking fiction u know it wud ah remain....

#15: Author: THE_FUGITIVES, Location: >l(()))'>

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:30 pm
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VE FTMFW

#16: Author: Supra GT-FOUR, Location: STFU

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:25 pm
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i really dont see the point in comparing a 1.6l 20 valve and a 2.0l sr20 vvl. efficiency is about hp per litre.
A more sutiable comparison would be the sr16-ve and the 20valve both having 1.6l displacement.
also what version of 20valve balcktop or silvertop?

#17: Author: booge, Location: World

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:32 pm
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^^^ Agreed. The black top

#18: Author: legendkiller@1891, Location: circumnavigating trini looking for females

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:21 am
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Supra GT-FOUR wrote:

i really dont see the point in comparing a 1.6l 20 valve and a 2.0l sr20 vvl. efficiency is about hp per litre.
A more sutiable comparison would be the sr16-ve and the 20valve both having 1.6l displacement.
also what version of 20valve balcktop or silvertop?

#19: Author: vans, Location: where ever d $ is

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:28 pm
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i supppose to race a patner with a 20valve in he corolla under gearbox against a vrg with vvl neo under automatic

#20: Author: Anton,

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:09 am
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The 20v would collect some licks on the 1/4 from the sr20vvl, but will hold its own on longer stretches.
Fact, not Fiction.

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