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#1: wtk......drilling holes in air box Author: mugenracer,

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:00 pm
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whats this ting about drilling holes in your air box?...thats for cars wit oem air intake system..saw that online where someone used a k & n panel filter and drilled holes in the air box

#2: Author: praise, Location: Port of Spain

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:44 am
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Interesting question and we can expect many different opinion. The air box is mainly to shield the incoming air to the engine from being heated by the engine itself. Cooler air contains more oxygen and also expands more so it give more power. That is why cars have intercooler to allow cooler air into the engine. The airbox is usually made from insulated hard plastic which is a not conductor of heat.
Now making holes in the airbox can benefit restriction of air that a K&N airfilter allows to flow freely, but will be disadvantage by air being heated by the engine.
An intake system is designed to draw sufficient air from outside the heated are of the engine compartment. So maybe it would not be adviceable to change the makers design as they were carefully engineered.

#3: Author: wagonrunner, Location: where the only valid opinion is theirs ....... :|

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:10 am
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praise wrote:

it would not be adviceable to change the makers design as they were carefully engineered

it is therefore impossible to improve upon these things?

#4: Author: praise, Location: Port of Spain

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:23 pm
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When you speak about improvements, are you speaking about fuel economy or power? There is always room for improvements in either area. That's whats engineering is all about. What has to be taken into consideration is emission and either harmful effects or beneficial effects to your engine whenever we "improve" any design. The green gas effect we often overlook. Great amount of research, time and money has been spend to design and produce a automobile. Success or failure depends upon design.
There are many simple improvements you can do without any harm to your engine and the environment, like synthetic oil, K&N air filter, extractors,energy tyres.etc.
Improvements in performance can also be done by increasing intake size, bigger injectors or carbs , removing catalist convertor, etc but these are harmful to the environment.
There are itchy topics like magnets, air bleed fuel saver, water injections and most recently hydrogen kits, all claiming to improve performance and lower emission. The condensator is one of my favourite as it actually keep your oil and engine clean and you can see the toxic products being removed and store in a glass bottle, which you can dispose of after.
You can also convert your car to CNG.
The choice is yours, it's our earth which we live in, we can either protect and preserve it or help to destroy it.

#5: Author: SUPAstarr, Location: Her name is Isabel and she gettin an H

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:58 pm
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wtf kinda girly scientific talk is that, my intelligence is wayyy tooo low to understand anythin u jus said.

#6: Author: Sky, Location: Leaving the valley of VTEC!!

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:35 pm
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praise wrote:

Interesting question and we can expect many different opinion. The air box is mainly to shield the incoming air to the engine from being heated by the engine itself. Cooler air contains more oxygen and also expands more so it give more power. That is why cars have intercooler to allow cooler air into the engine. The airbox is usually made from insulated hard plastic which is a not conductor of heat.
Now making holes in the airbox can benefit restriction of air that a K&N airfilter allows to flow freely, but will be disadvantage by air being heated by the engine.
An intake system is designed to draw sufficient air from outside the heated are of the engine compartment. So maybe it would not be adviceable to change the makers design as they were carefully engineered.

And here I was thinking intercoolers were to cool the air that's hot as fk because the turbo/supercharger compressed it.

#7: Author: praise, Location: Port of Spain

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:59 pm
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Sky wrote:

praise wrote:

And here I was thinking intercoolers were to cool the air that's hot as fk because the turbo/supercharger compressed it.

Quote:

my intelligence is wayyy tooo low to understand anythin

I couln't agree with you more.
People like you have nothing possitive to contribute. Stop trying to belittle people because of your ignorance. It get you nowhere. There is a place for that behaviour. It's call Parliament.

#8: Author: Cleriq, Location: 9200 RPM

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:08 am
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praise, you full of it yes! Laughing

mugenracer, people try all sorts of things to make power. The power you get from drilling holes in your stock airbox is negligible.

#9: Author: NY4PD, Location: Florida

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:13 am
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drilling holes in your original air is not good.
You will be pulling in all the hot air from the motor bay, its like the short ram air intake all it does is bring in all the hot air from the engine room.
You need to route the air from the coolest point of air in front of the car to see or get better performance. If you look carefully the original box is routed in a good spot and you can replace the filter with a better one if you like but don't drill holes.

#10: Author: red_dragon, Location: HUNTING FOR KINDAY

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:59 pm
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put in a K&N drop in

short ram will be hot air
and u can even loose power with certain Cold air intakes

u want performance take out the engine and get a K20R

#11: Author: NY4PD, Location: Florida

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:03 pm
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Here is the real deal for air filtering.

this is the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThmW2SW1I-k

The foam filter is much better.
I even use foam filters in my A/C in the house as well.

so as you'll see not even K&N filter is still not good, but yet people belive that they are good.

#12: Author: honda hoe, Location: girls suck. women swallow. act your age

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:14 pm
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red_dragon wrote:

u want performance take out the engine and get a K20R

man ask for filter an u tellin d man bout engine swap Laughing

#13: Author: red_dragon, Location: HUNTING FOR KINDAY

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:09 pm
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the man want HP gains from doin $h!T ... Rolling Eyes

#14: Author: bluesteel29, Location: P.O.S

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:53 pm
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NY4PD wrote:

Here is the real deal for air filtering.

this is the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThmW2SW1I-k

The foam filter is much better.
I even use foam filters in my A/C in the house as well.

so as you'll see not even K&N filter is still not good, but yet people belive that they are good.

who have dat free flow filter bizniss down here????

#15: filter Author: NY4PD, Location: Florida

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:58 am
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bluesteel29 wrote:

NY4PD wrote:

who have dat free flow filter bizniss down here????

Here is the link:
http://www.trufilter.com/

#16: filter Author: NY4PD, Location: Florida

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:58 am
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bluesteel29 wrote:

NY4PD wrote:

who have dat free flow filter bizniss down here????