Orion HCCA 12.2

djlegac · Postby **djlegac** » July 11th, 2009, 9:22 pm

hey whats up guys? new to the forum, i was introduced to this forum from Rovin, currently building my first system.

Right now as we speak i have
1 2000 bmw 528i
2 Orion HCCA 12.2 for bass
2-AP-3001D 3000W class D 1 chanel (3000 watts rms)
3 audio pipe 1500 2 channels for mids and highs
2 x Celestion TF0510 - 5" Bass/Midbass Woofer (CLSTN-TF0510) for surround in the doors with tweeters
2 x RCF L10/750YK 10" Mid-Bass Speaker (RCFL10/750YK)for voice
2 x B&C 8PE21 - 8" Woofer (BC8PE21)for voice
3 optimas d35 batteries
2 10 farad SPL caps
epic center meter, not sure the model number
clarion crossover and equalizer, not sure the model number.
Pioneer avhp4100dvd player
and thats it for right now.

learned alot from just reading in this forum, but was interested in knowing how to do my box for these, i know they have to be vented. but my trunk is completly sealed, and only have a ski pass. there will be alot of rattling and also sound will not be great, i want low bass out of these subs. dont really want to do a wall on the backseats. so the guy is coming to build the custom box next week, and i got to tel him what i want. this is strictly for low bass, and daily. i want it to shake also lol. rovin has been trying to help me, i see you guys know more about hcca's then other forums so thanks for any inside!

Ginxdor · Postby **Ginxdor** » July 11th, 2009, 10:36 pm

Look up the user Loudsounds on this forum. He and Rovin should be able to edify you.

djlegac · Postby **djlegac** » July 11th, 2009, 10:47 pm

will do!! saw his build with two of them, kinda wana pick his brain on the build for these hcca's lol

Postby **- Rovin's car audio -** » July 11th, 2009, 10:55 pm

this guy is in the usa with some trini roots & he needs help\advice on a loud @ass set so i advised him to join here & ask ...

Ginxdor · Postby **Ginxdor** » July 11th, 2009, 10:58 pm

(...Rovin...) wrote:this guy is in the usa with some trini roots & he needs help\advice on a loud @ass set so i advised him to join here & ask ...

I suspected that you weren't local but I'll hush up now and leave you in the capable hands of the tuners.

djlegac · Postby **djlegac** » July 11th, 2009, 11:09 pm

lol yah man i got d trini roots, but i dere in ny, aye rovin, cant wait for my rcf's and b&c's to come in!!!!

Postby **- Rovin's car audio -** » July 11th, 2009, 11:30 pm

hope u dont get a bunch of tickets for all that loud mids\highs since i bet cops in the usa wont tolerate that the way they do here in T&T

btw check ur pm ...

noyztoyz · Postby **noyztoyz** » July 11th, 2009, 11:41 pm

i like when i hear some1 boasting big equipment and saying its strictly for lows.
You need to get rid or customise the back seat so that that energy can come out the vehicle, u need to or you're wasting time.

djlegac · Postby **djlegac** » July 12th, 2009, 5:24 am

yah dont worry im an auxilary officer so they WILL tolerate me lol.....yah i think your right noytoyz i think im gonna get rid of the backseat!!!! lawd boi i just wana snap my fingers and let it appear the way i want lol and the quality i want!!! haha

govin1231 · Postby **govin1231** » July 12th, 2009, 7:19 am

i would love to see this.. can u take pics of the equipment an the car :roll:

plz.. an post some images.. as well as the install... an some vidz if u can.. plz.. if i'm not askin much.. thank u.. an i sure this will sound great...

djlegac · Postby **djlegac** » July 12th, 2009, 12:41 pm

sure, im gonna actually take pics of all the equipment and the car, and try to do some pics of the installl also. and you want videos lol, ill try on that one

djlegac · Postby **djlegac** » July 12th, 2009, 1:20 pm

also, whats the big 3?

Postby **- Rovin's car audio -** » July 12th, 2009, 2:26 pm

big 3 ...

http://forums.trinituner.com/forums/vie ... &&start=40

djlegac · Postby **djlegac** » July 12th, 2009, 3:02 pm

thanks rovin, will also have this done too...

djlegac · Postby **djlegac** » July 12th, 2009, 3:12 pm

ok so rovin we just took the measurements just now, if i do a wall, i got 36 inches across and the hcca's are about 16 inches wide each, leaving about 4 inches left to play, is that enough room to fit them? and port them above the speaker facing parallel? i hate bmw's now lol, by the way, the metal piece that seals the trunk, is off, so the trunk is not sealed anymore, just took it off

djlegac · Postby **djlegac** » July 12th, 2009, 3:21 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AudioCon ... ioQ5fVideo any one know if this is good pre amp for me to use or should i get one with more features?

theblitz · Postby **theblitz** » July 14th, 2009, 12:36 pm

djlegac, I didn't see a High Output alternator in your list. The BMW alternator is high rated I'm sure but not for this kinda equipment you have. Also you gonna have to do some custom work for your mids... possibly fiberglass. The mids you have chosen are highly directional and the loudest and best sound is achieved by being in front of the driver.

I have a 12.2 as well and I don't think its 16" wide. In 36" you can fit 2 side by side and still have a decent size port (depending on how tall the port is).

Another thing I'm seeing is that you plan on using an epicenter.... IMO with 2 HCCA tuned low you won't need an epicenter... especially if you listen to song with a lot of low bass content.

Mine is tuned at 33Hz but I not sure if you wanna go below that in your system. Listen to the bass from a couple friends cars who actually know the tuning of their enclosures to help settle you mind. When you say the guy is coming to build the boxes do you mean he is coming to build it alone or design it and build (wrt tuning)?

djlegac · Postby **djlegac** » July 14th, 2009, 5:07 pm

theblitz wrote:djlegac, I didn't see a High Output alternator in your list. The BMW alternator is high rated I'm sure but not for this kinda equipment you have. Also you gonna have to do some custom work for your mids... possibly fiberglass. The mids you have chosen are highly directional and the loudest and best sound is achieved by being in front of the driver.

I have a 12.2 as well and I don't think its 16" wide. In 36" you can fit 2 side by side and still have a decent size port (depending on how tall the port is).

Another thing I'm seeing is that you plan on using an epicenter.... IMO with 2 HCCA tuned low you won't need an epicenter... especially if you listen to song with a lot of low bass content.

Mine is tuned at 33Hz but I not sure if you wanna go below that in your system. Listen to the bass from a couple friends cars who actually know the tuning of their enclosures to help settle you mind. When you say the guy is coming to build the boxes do you mean he is coming to build it alone or design it and build (wrt tuning)?

well i searched and searched for this alternator, and nothing, best bet is do the "big 3" and then use my extra batteries.
for my mids, my installer is fiberglasing the back dash. i do need tweeters though, any recommendations?
for my box, im not to sure what my installer is designing for this box, because im still deciding if i want to loose my backseat. but it looks as though i might have too. not too sure about tuned box or anything like that, when you say tuned box what does that mean? with an equalizer or something?
And thanks for the advice on the epicenter, at least now i can just buy the audio control eqs or eqx, still deciding any advice? my installer said the 7 band clarion will do fine. but i personally prefer audio control's trunk mount.

Postby SR » July 14th, 2009, 5:42 pm

post pics

djlegac · Postby **djlegac** » July 15th, 2009, 6:57 pm

hey guys just a little update,the atomic's are not coming, dont know why, the guy has not responded me with anything, and i sent him the paypal money, been waiting about 2 weeks now and no answer, so i got the money back, and due to low funds now, i bought 2 of these audio pipe 3000 watts rms for now, hopefully would like to get those atomics or sundown 3000. also i took some pics today, wanted to know how to put them up on here thanks!

Postby **- Rovin's car audio -** » July 15th, 2009, 7:11 pm

http://forums.trinituner.com/forums/vie ... php?t=3243 ....

theblitz · Postby **theblitz** » July 15th, 2009, 7:27 pm

Audiopipe on HCCA

what are the specs on those?

djlegac · Postby **djlegac** » July 16th, 2009, 1:37 pm

theblitz wrote:Audiopipe on HCCA

what are the specs on those?

yah i know. but im using audiopipes for interiors, sooo just keeping it all the same for now, the amps are gonna be on the seat, im building a floor for the backseat, so itll look nice for now, til i get the sundowns or atomics, but there 3000 watts rms at 1ohm stable, my friend is using them on 2 memphis mojo and they sound amazing got 159 db

djlegac · Postby **djlegac** » July 31st, 2009, 5:48 pm

here is a little update! on pics!

djlegac · Postby **djlegac** » July 31st, 2009, 6:10 pm

Kicker rca's and 0 guage!

the b&C

clarion eq actually selling it because decided to go with a trunk mount crossover instead, didnt think i needed it after!

15band crossover

no top of the line but hopefully it does the job til then. ALSO THINKING ABOUT PUTTING A DRIVE RACK! lol what you guys think???

2 power acoustik 10 farad caps and also got 4 optima batteries!

rcf l10750yk

for now 2 audiopipe 3001d til i get a good deal on oriond5000 or sundowns 3000

3 audiopipe 1500 watt 2 channel for mids n highs

2 celestion 5"

thats it for now guys. sorry took so long, been busy working trying to pay all this stuff off so i dont owe no money, plus the installer is all cash lol!!!!

Postby **- Rovin's car audio -** » July 31st, 2009, 7:11 pm

have this usa installer done this type of work b4 using pro audio speakers ?

what about d noise pollution laws in ur area ?

just asking about how it is up there ....

theblitz · Postby **theblitz** » July 31st, 2009, 7:46 pm

lol I think that installer is in for a little surprise

Can't you keep your backseat in your planned install? It'll be such a shame to hack that BMW up man... car's a beaut :idea:

djlegac · Postby **djlegac** » July 31st, 2009, 7:52 pm

rovin
yah, im gonna try and post up the loudest lexus gs430 in new york, and also my cuz's lexus gs430 pushing the 2 15inch memphis mojo i spoke about earlier. and uses 2 10"b&C and 2 10'' EV, my installer is the one that recommended those speakers i have now.

theblitz
what do you mean a surprise blitz? lol dont scare me!!!and also i would love too keep the backseat, but there is too much stuff to put in that trunk, i have to loose it.