YOUR car- tweeters off or On axis?

evo-STI-k

SO please dont turn this into a off vs On axis war on tweeters.
In YOUR car how, were are your tweeters mounted? pics if possible and what do YOU personally like about your choice of placement?
Not asking for tecnhical war here!
Just interested in peoples individual choices.

I currently have my tweeters in my
A pillars almost at "shoulder level" firing across the dash at each other (off-axis).
I find that my stage height is High, but im thinking of trying a Kick panel install (On axis) with pods!

nigel1977 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:49 am Post subject:

So whats the point of the thread if you dont want the science behind wht on axis vs off axis. What are you trying to find out? Which sounds better? That's subjective to the user's personal opinion and it may not help you if you are not interested in the why and only the how.

Im my system, I Have my tweeters firing toward each each other. Their alignment is perfectly perpendicular to the vehicle's longitudinal axis, done so by laser alignment.
The reason for painstakingly getting this right, is to take into effect the benefits of speaker beaming, off axis response, and attenuation due to angulation.

Kick panel mounted only tweeters, esp on axis, will do 2 things, regardless of brand of tweeter: 1. Give a rainbow Stage height, 2. REDUCE stage depth.

You need to know the why dude.

silent_riot · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:56 am Post subject:

I run mine off axis. in kickpanels.
I want to do a-pillar tweets asap.

evo-STI-k · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:27 pm Post subject:

Nigel- remember Not everyone competes Smile

and what may seem acceptable to others may not be acceptable to you!
Im playing with both locations, and i was wondering how many have dont the kickpanels- i know of the rainbow effect, but its something i may be able to accept!

nigel1977 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject:

It has nothing to do with competition, so please dont make this about that.

On this forum, tweeter positioning is the least important/least discussed thing. There are, at most, 15-20 people who truly understand the importance of tweeter placement. It is second only to midrange placement.

rigman00 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject:

i've tried both...like pillar position

jeff · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:48 pm Post subject:

from my experience, once on axis, the closer one becomes way too localized
and one set of amplitude adjustment needs to be done, which can easily be avoided by just aiming them of axis

ive also heard tweeters aimed not entirely 'off axis' but at the opposite seats and that wasnt too bad either

once windshield rake and cluster guage is considered some playing around with it can also lead to better results

southside connections · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:25 pm Post subject:

i have mines on the a-pillar,at a lil bit over my shoulder level both firing at each other

pimptacular · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject:

got mine in the kicks and the A pillars..
looking to remove the kick tweeters altogether and just run A pillars firing across at each other

SR · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject:

some cars they work well on axis others they dont

depends on what you aiming for out of the front stage

crazybalhead · Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:01 am Post subject:

A pillars off axis, but not towards each other, more towards the rear view mirror, just below.

silent_riot · Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject:

So I did my a-pillars over the weekend...Now have some different tweeters than what was run in the kicks (same metal tho). I am really surprised at how smooth the sound is for metal tweets in a pillars.

The sound is much better, stage height much more stable and consistent and there is a kind of perceptive stage depth, but it doesnt sound real to me..it sounds as if there is not coherence between the midrange and tweeter for the depth imaging cues (but that is another issue)..whereas before the stage was just 2 dimensional with the kick mounted tweets. Also image focus has also improved a bit.

Tonally, i think the has been an improvement. There is better dynamics in the highs and even the midrange. Even the midbass sounds snappier now.

rigman00 · Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject:

good findings silent

evo-STI-k · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:44 am Post subject:

great boy silent!- im happy that you finally put tweetes into your car!
last i heard it you didnt have any!

silent_riot · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:15 pm Post subject:

I had some crystal tweets in the kicks, then i put some seas or some sheit brand tweets in the a pillars now..

riadb · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject:

both midrange driver and tweeter should be on the same axes.

on axis tweeter placement becomes too upfront and "in your face" making it too focal.

silent_riot · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject:

You don't say...

riadb · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:34 pm Post subject:

sorry dred.....i'll stay quiet

nigel1977 · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:28 am Post subject:

nah, explain what you were saying, bout being too focal an stuff...

MonsterPower · Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: