WTK: What is a flash over?

DF1_2nR · Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:21 am Post subject: WTK: What is a flash over?

Always hear this term being used when referring to painting cars. Supposedly cheaper than your standard paint job.

What exactly they doing different?

Why does it cost less?

Does it make sense in the long run?

3stagevtec · Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:33 am Post subject:

heard the term a few times, but never really knew what it meant.. i always assumed a 'flash over' was adding single coat of paint..

De Dragon · Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:38 am Post subject:

Basically its painting over your car without rubbing down the entire car and prepping the body. Cheaper because obviously less labour etc is involved.

THE SYNDICATE · Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:50 am Post subject:

^^^^correct.just break the paint on the car,mask off what necessary and level paint IYMC. Embarassed

people do it when they selling their vehicle.make it look nice to attract the eyes.

if u intend to keep ur vehicle,u should do it the proper way!

My $0.02

Chiney · Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:27 am Post subject:

how long wud a flash over last?

Strugglerzinc · Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:07 pm Post subject:

All depends on the prior state of the vehicle.

If nothing was wrong then its just new paint. For a flash, minor imperfections and rust spots are covered with filler and this is where the issues arise.

minipresident · Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:09 pm Post subject:

basically they don,t scrap down d car as would happen for a proper body job.

they tape up everything as is, where is and whatever lil dings the car have they slap some hot shot putty over it (since it relatively easier to rub off and they can skip primer.)

Sealer primer is generally not used when flashing too, as would happen with a full body job.

So they jus scoff your existing paint with ah 1200 sand paper and let go ah direct gloss paint on the car.

And there you have it yuh car jus get flash!

DF1_2nR · Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject:

So in terms of a car with no damage body wise and just wanting to change the color, is this a viable option?

Tired Accord · Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:18 pm Post subject:

D_bodyguard · Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject:

flashing over can be done from 4 days to forever ....it all depends on the vehicle

1. scrap down -1 day
2. fixing bad spots (this is where the time and condition is considered)
3. rubdown prime and rub over -1 day
4.paint ,clear,mount up 1-1.5 days
5. buff and clean up -1 day

thise how it does happen in reputable garages but sometimes they like to lay off on time but you can get yh vehicle done is 5 days easy .....but it depends on yh vehicle current condition !!

7143 · Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:30 pm Post subject:

D_bodyguard,you will have to give me some addresses of them " good" garag es that does move so brisk....

brakefluid · Street 2NR Joined: 25 May 2008 Tech posts: 84 My 2NRide:

usually when getting a time estimate from these guys just looking at the work, they tend to require more time than they told you.

De Dragon · Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:21 pm Post subject:

7143 · Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:13 pm Post subject:

^true that eh because is onli when they scrap out the car and take out all the floor carpet and dash and thing do they realli see the extent of the work needed to be done....

SNIPER 3000 · Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject:

I feel the painter hit me a flash Mad

slow323 · Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:26 pm Post subject:

as the other guys said the painter just paints the outside of the car and fixes any minor imperfections this does not include the insides of the door jams trunk, hood etc

for a total paint over with a different colour your car go have to be scrapped down so all areas can be painted with the new colour

cinco · Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:33 pm Post subject:

if you are changing colour i suggest a full paint job especially to get the door jambs and engine bay done properly

TrinbagoMan · Street 2NR Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Tech posts: 67 My 2NRide:

Considering whether to flash or paint over. A paint job, so expensive, i thinking of just flashing bonnet and hood and call that george.

thelem · Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:49 am Post subject:

^^

Depends on the application of the paint and highly on the color and the state that the car is currently in.

brams112 · Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:54 pm Post subject:

cheap paint job,,,,lousy paint plenty headache with paint looking shitty,and finally you will cuss yourself for not paying the extra three grand for a good job

TrinbagoMan · Street 2NR Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Tech posts: 67 My 2NRide:

slacker_jack · Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:45 pm Post subject:

as far as I know its just where they just apply a fresh coat of paint & do a quick fix to all the small dents etc that the car has.

most times it is used on old cars where extensive half way work was dont to patch up rotten spots & fresh paint applied to make the car look pretty. they pay next to nothing for an old rotten down car, spend a few thousand on a "restoration" & call a high price for it. in a few months time paint starts to raise & eventually car will start to rottn from under the paste.
this kind of job is popular with b11 & nissan march. when I was car hunting I saw a few cars that were old & rottening turn up looking new a few months later. years have past & some of them back to looking like scrap iron on the road.

I did a flash on may car when it got the little dent, the straightening, painting & everything to fix the dent was costing $1,200.00 - $1,500.00 so I let the wrong party know the cost to fix, showed them the quote & put the extra cash to run down & apply fresh paint to the whole car.
there were no dents on the metal parts of my car but they had to patch up the set of small dents on my front bumper where stone firetruck it up from those firetruck trucks that transporting gravel in the morning.

the "flash" job costed me a little over $5k.