WTK P11 crade arms

maxi_alert · Ricer Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Tech posts: 28 My 2NRide:

So i went to align and camber my P11 today and the man say he cah do it cuz the "upper cradle arm ball joint" a lil off. Ok tru research (askin people) there is no upper cradle arm ball joint. So i wonderin what he really meant. I change my cradle arms recently (i think it was the lower cuz the car was callin for bushings) so what u think the man mean?? He just talkin none sense
or is it something else. The right wheel have a slight "wobble" when he was checkin it nuthin major.

swift gti funatic · Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject:

ok... you will not be able to camber because you have no capabilities too...
This happens to Most ppl with p11s with they lower..camber issues.

Some solutions-

get the super pro control arm bushing kit (they have camber adjustments) expect to pay nothing less than $3500... http://forums.trinituner.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=269885

get some nice coilovers with camber plates Twisted Evil

that should solve your height and camber issue in one shot Laughing

maxi_alert · Ricer Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Tech posts: 28 My 2NRide:

swift gti funatic · Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:57 pm Post subject:

If your upper cradle arms are good then why change them?
To be honest the above two solutions are the only ones that i can think up of at the moment.

Other than that boy..tires takin the licks..

maxi_alert · Ricer Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Tech posts: 28 My 2NRide:

swift gti funatic · Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject:

or wait till the more knowledgable guys on the forum see this.. maybe they can offer more assistance Smile

maxi_alert · Ricer Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Tech posts: 28 My 2NRide:

swift gti funatic, second opinion may come faster lol but i will take the suggestions into consideration (if money permits)

krack korn · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:33 pm Post subject:

Camber plates on a P11 suspension is like having a chocolate fire god. The shock is not a strut and does not support lateral loading like Mc Pherson systems. It might look impressive but will be useless, better u put manning in the car.

The arm(called a third link) attaches to the spindle on a rotating joint with 2 bearings. It could be that he talking about. bearing could be bad or the spindle/third link bent. Replace bearings or buy one spindle/third link assy F/U.

also could be what he means is upper cradle arm (between the third link and the chassis) is either bad or bent or both. Maybe he get tie up with the ball joint talk. Was the car in a bouncident or big stone/culvert/short post altercation? If so the mounting point for the upper arm can be out of spec.

Certain body shops that do chassis realignment can rectify that if its not the upper arm at fault and its actually where its mounted to is bent.

any mechanic can tell u if the bearings or upper cradle is bad. Some measuring will tell u if the arm/mounting point is bent, changing the arm to a known good one will determine which is the problem.

maxi_alert · Ricer Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Tech posts: 28 My 2NRide:

krack korn, thanks I got a second opinion and it is the bearing on the spindle so I am currently looking for the spindle. I want to replace the 2 side one time to avoid goin tru this again. Yes the car was in a accident once but nuthing serious juss cosmetic damage had to replace bumper etc the axle and such didn't get touch.

maxi_alert · Ricer Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Tech posts: 28 My 2NRide:

Also does anyone know where I can get these spindles to buy

swift gti funatic · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject:

krack korn, soo you sayin a set of BC 32 way adjustable coilovers and camberplates are no good on a p11?? Rolling Eyes

rmspower · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:45 pm Post subject:

maxi_alert · Ricer Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Tech posts: 28 My 2NRide:

rmspower, sweet will check dem in the morning

DF1_2nR · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:30 am Post subject:

krack korn · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:09 am Post subject:

If the spindle bearing is bad it will invariably be noisy. If the CV joint is not tightened it will have the same effect too(as bad bearing) but driving for any time with it slack will kill the bearing and outer seal anyhow.

rmspower give u good advice but u have to know your parts and go look for them take a walk in the bamboo and u will find it,the P11/U14 suspension is pretty unique and easy to spot.

There are 2 spindles one with an 11" stone shield and one with a 10". get the right one or get the 11 because it can work with both size brakes, just I find it will look slight jokey with the 10" rotor on the 11" stone shield.

The spindles are exactly the same bearing etc aside from the stone shield, only the 4WD spindle is different

maxi_alert · Ricer Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Tech posts: 28 My 2NRide:

krack korn, thing is I not hearing nothing it shakin just a bit. I got the upper arm with the bearing today, so I will see if it works.

krack korn · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:46 pm Post subject:

I am refering to the spindle bearings the ones the wheel runs on, not the third link bearings those may make a slight clock clock noise but the main thing is the camber will be off.

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