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undercover Ricer
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:46 pm Post subject: wtk. important quest re: gearbox gear signal |
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trying to find out something.
is there a way to get an electrical signal for specific gear positions in a manual vehicle?
i know there is the reverse signal wire for the gearbox, but is it possible to get a signal for the other gears?
if it is possible, whats the procedure? |
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megadoc1 Sweet on this forum
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Tech posts: 391 Location: on your network check and see My 2NRide:
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| i want to know tooo |
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Anton Trinituner Peong
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undercover Ricer
Joined: 29 May 2006 Tech posts: 22 Location: South My 2NRide:
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| no it is not. it is for installing a gear position indicator |
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bushwakka Chronic TriniTuner
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Tech posts: 541 Location: GPS unavailable My 2NRide: Subaru Impreza 2.0 R
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| ^^that's a nice idea, where'd u get the indicator from tho? it'll hav to be almost an auxiliary gauge on the side of the dashboard i'm guessing tho right? |
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undercover Ricer
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| using the automatic indictors from an almera dash, just changing the numbers |
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wagonrunner 30 pounds of Boost
Joined: 18 May 2004 Tech posts: 2662 Location: Enjoying Flow's 6Mb so far. My 2NRide: Nissan Y10 Wingroad LE
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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it's possible, but would require you wiring indiviual circuits, for each gear position. I thought about doing it, but wasnt bored enough to complete.
pm zodiaque, he could tell you what you need to start. |
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undercover Ricer
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| wagonrunner- you talkin about using a bracket around the shifter and putting the circuits there |
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wagonrunner 30 pounds of Boost
Joined: 18 May 2004 Tech posts: 2662 Location: Enjoying Flow's 6Mb so far. My 2NRide: Nissan Y10 Wingroad LE
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:48 am Post subject: |
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| yup, gear lever will be used to close the circuit |
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megadoc1 Sweet on this forum
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Tech posts: 391 Location: on your network check and see My 2NRide:
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| what about a magnetic circuit? |
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*KRONIK* TriniTuner WHOoRE
Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1374 Location: double clutching into first.... My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Mirage
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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a buddy of mine did this on his 101 corolla
he only did it for R........ N and D(at any foward gear position)
too bad he sold it.......
used to look good though |
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undercover Ricer
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| i figure the magnetic circuit mite be better. the challenge is when the gear positions so close. hmm. so there's no other way to do this from the engine/gearbox side? |
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turbohead Chronic TriniTuner
Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Tech posts: 670 Location: south side My 2NRide: Mazda 929
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| i was tinkin along those same line there wagonrunner...with the shifter.but dat wud work for fwd wat about shifters dat in the box like rb an sr an stuff....interesting thread |
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Hook 30 pounds of Boost
Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Tech posts: 2532 Location: Bimshire My 2NRide: Toyota Corolla
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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it doesn't matter where the shifter is mounted really
if a finisher plate is made with grooves for each gear lever position (like a "double H" groove pattern is cut out of the finisher plate like in some euro 5spd shifters), and some microswitches are placed at the tops of these positions with each switch triggering a single LED, a simple harness can be made to connect the switching circuit to a gear position indicator on the dash
it will be permanently mounted on the centre consol at the shifter position and u have the option of either painting it really nice to compliment the interior or covering it up with a shifter boot
if you desire to go even more "hi-tech", you can use the switched inputs to trigger a display on a single 7-LED digital counter, so that it runs the gears 0(N)-1-2-3-4-5-R...
that way u have an actual numerical representation of the gear position and u only need to find space for one small digital display module instead of for 6 individual LEDs or modifying your instrument cluster wiring  |
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cinco TriniTuner 24-7
Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Tech posts: 1801 Location: talking to the voices in my head My 2NRide: Toyota Corolla
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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here is my idea
get some switches like these
simply push button switches when pushed in will close the circuit
build an adapter plate and put it around the shifter to that it indicates each position
get something like this  | | Click for full-size. |
and wire each switch to an led
1 would light the first led 2 would light the first 2 and so on and r would light the whole strip
it really should not be hard the hardest part may be making the adapter plate |
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Hook 30 pounds of Boost
Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Tech posts: 2532 Location: Bimshire My 2NRide: Toyota Corolla
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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^^^ that would be a bit bulky to install...and it'd look real Knight Rider-ish
mine would be the same way with the miniswiches and the finisher plate, except that the output would either be used to drive a single LED per gear mounted in the instrument cluster
it's similar to Automatic transmissions with the "L-1-D-N-R-P"
if an A/T to M/T conversion was done, that would make things much easier...all u hafta do is run the wires to the shifter and modify the instrument cluster to show numbers instead of "L" and "D" et al
OR
the outputs can be used to drive a single 7-segment digital display that gives the actual number of the gear...the smaller one to this nuh
the electronics can be mounted under the dash somewhere and the display can be assembled onto either the factory instrumnt cluster or maybe a 2 1/16" circular plexi so that it can be mounted in a gauge pod on the A-pillar or something |
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cinco TriniTuner 24-7
Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Tech posts: 1801 Location: talking to the voices in my head My 2NRide: Toyota Corolla
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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it is a bit bulky
not what i would do but just giving as a suggestion as to how easy it can be |
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Hook 30 pounds of Boost
Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Tech posts: 2532 Location: Bimshire My 2NRide: Toyota Corolla
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:03 am Post subject: |
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| well yeah, I catch your drift....this would make a nice project tho....simple stuff |
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*KRONIK* TriniTuner WHOoRE
Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1374 Location: double clutching into first.... My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Mirage
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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any volunteers??
i would really like to see something like this in someone's car |
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DJ Nexxus Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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instead of switches you could use these instead, they are small enough and can be adjusted to only detect the shift lever.
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