WTK Good Buffer

azlan · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:27 am Post subject: WTK Good Buffer

Can anyone reccommend a good buffer and his price range. I dont have any major scratches so do you reccommend just a polish?

I heard some bad stories of ppl who sent their car to buff and they got swirl marks etc. What do you reccommend? I do a buff and polish or just a polish?

Can anyone reccommend a good person to do the job?

VexXx Dogg · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:04 am Post subject:

I am also looking for somewhere that does GOOD buffing.
those regular car-washes tend to do a shiddy job.

azlan · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:31 am Post subject:

yuh done know!!! help we out ppl. Recommend some ppl.....

thelem · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:15 pm Post subject:

I have a buff man on lock!! lol. To tell you the truth. Novice and noobie buff men would give u an average price range without 1st seeing the work, and when they do, they work to suit. Only a real buff man would buff and give a price ONLY after seeing the amount of work to be done.

1st Scenario:
Swirl marks occur from a buff man being to cheap or the customer being to cheap. One of the other or both.

Let me explain. Sometimes a buff man would include the cost of a new buffing pad and the customer would find the final price to be too much. Therefore the buff would have to be done on a old, worn pad, resulting in scratches and swirls.

2nd Scenario:
Very few buff men actually "rub down" the vehicle before buffing. This ensures that all swirls and scratches are removed and that there's no wavyness and rimmyness on the clear coat.

So lets tally up everything folks.

Basic buff cost = $600
New buff pad + Compound + Polish + paper = $600
Final labour for rubbing and machining = $300
Total cost = $1500

N:B - Paper varies with amount of work to be done. Deep scratches may require 1000 paper whilst light ones may require 1400.

What's my justification for all of this you may ask?? Simple. When you're around professionals (not ricers or people who dont know what to do with their money) who spend over $2000 to buff a car from BMW straight to a custom car. You learn alot.

I hope this helped some of yall. Dont robb your car and dont be robbed. Know what it is you're paying for.

jjcp · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:26 pm Post subject:

Hook · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject:

thelem · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:39 pm Post subject:

Ok..real case scenario. Me. I buffed a freshly painted car July. I paid 1300. And that was just labour. He gave me all the options and recommendations. He's not making any money if I purchase a new pad or how much compund or paper he uses. I went and bougt them all. 4 sheets of 1000, 1200 and 1400 sand paper. 1 Large bottle of maguires, 1 large G3 compund and a new buff pad. I think i spent like $400. And after that I went and purchased a bottle of mothers polish. Crazy? Did I get robbed. I dont think so. What work he did for $1300 you ask?

3 days of rubbing my car. Yes...3 whole entire supervised days (my car was double cleared)
2 days of machine buffing.
1 day of polishing.

Maintaining is important. I polish my car with the same large bottle of mothers every other sunday. And to this day my car still shines. Only a few swirl marks due lazy days where I let a wash boy wash my car, but other than that, I never regret the money I spent, and definetly when he tells me that when he goes to a company to buff brand new showroom cars, he gets over $2000 or when he goes tobago east for car show he gets like $7000 to buff all weekend, place to stay, and food to eat.

At the end of the day guys, it will always be about the application and look you're going for.

Morpheus · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:48 am Post subject:

1 Mothers car wash
1 Mothers or Meguirs Wax
1 Pricesmart buffing machine

Bess finish Laughing

I not so into details like allyuh nah. May take a few hours but it turns heads for weeks when it's done.

With all this road works and rain, I can't see $1500 to spend on that. Plus I am a DIY kinda person Embarassed

But as the man say. Pros have pro prices. Car does look like it now paint when dem done Shocked

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BTW Good info there thelem

Sanctifier · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:04 am Post subject:

~˜VëgÅ²˜~ · Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:28 am Post subject:

^^^^damn that dominator looks great!!!!!

Sanctifier · Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:16 am Post subject:

thelem · Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:34 am Post subject:

Amazing product I must say. But I think this would work on the basis that the spot that has the dent has no filler. lol. And $2000.00 US is prettey pricey.

Sanctifier · Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:49 am Post subject:

this would work on the basis that the spot that has the dent has no filler... Yup.
But even if there is an old repair plus filler, I'll remove old "filler"...PDR...then repaint.
More time & labour to repair OLD and NEW damage...so slightly higher price in that case.
At least after PDR, the new (and older) damaged area will be SMALLER than before.

thelem · Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:02 am Post subject:

I agree. If someone could afford it, I think a PDR is a great investment. Even as a small business idea once the application method is well developed and perfected.

Sanctifier · Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:17 am Post subject:

legendkiller@1891 · Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject:

good read! nice info btw...sanctifier love dat vid an that dominator 2 is amazing, it would be a superb investment for the plans my cousin's an i have in the near future! we started already, and with hopes of being locally known for customizing, painting, buffing, bodywork,music, auto-electrical, mechanics and more hopefully, we just seeing how it goes also!...

Sanctifier · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:59 am Post subject:

legendkiller@1891 · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:55 pm Post subject:

yep true that, nice setup btw.

Sanctifier · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:13 pm Post subject:

^ ^ ^ Thanks.
I'm in Petit Valley... Where are you guys setting up the Paint & Mechanic Shop?
Maybe you can handle any paint-work I might need, until my ToyRoom booth is ready.

legendkiller@1891 · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:55 pm Post subject:

were located in wallerfield via arima.

Sanctifier · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:23 pm Post subject:

legendkiller@1891 · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:45 pm Post subject:

lol, well wah ah go tell ya fire fuh that.

Nigson · Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:59 pm Post subject:

I would never ever buff my car bro....personally opinion...the last car i took to buff came back worst than ever....Swirl marks scratch marks you name it!!!!I am never gonna pay a man money to damage my car again!!!

Just use some decent liquid polish and you good to go..........not cheap stuff but invest in something good.....use the ones that new car dealers use......I will post up the name of it.....

I use it and the car really looks good!!! no buffing necessary!!

thelem · Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:30 am Post subject:

Nigson · Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:10 am Post subject:

yeah well I hear what you sayin but because of that experience I would never do it again.....besides....that is also throwing money away...........

Sanctifier · Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:11 am Post subject:

Nigson · Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:39 am Post subject:

I sold the car .....lol.....

A partner of mine sent his car to the dealer to buff also It was a black car.....when the car came back the bonnet was blue Shocked

Dealer had to repaint the bonnet Laughing

Sanctifier · Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:53 am Post subject:

Nigson · Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:21 am Post subject:

no......... painting a car costs alot so if I had to paint that woulda be dead money.....I needed an upgrade anyway..........so I had to cut my losses early o clock...... Laughing

TRDcorolla · Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:00 am Post subject:

i buff my own car yesterday....im shock i didnt firetruck it up nor leave any swirl marks