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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:52 pm
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I know this is a car site, but this is the only forum dedicated to audio , probably perhaps we need a HT thread.( for ht,hd tvs, projectors, and the like) I am looking to get some music for home , nothing to major but quality is of paramount importance, what do you guys recommend to build/buy (2.1 system).

I have currently a logi 5500, some may say sell that and buy an onkyo, that is a plan but not in the immediate future. For movies/game it is quite good. For music not so good.

I will be using my pc as the headunit, it has a audigy 2 card, I know it is old, but it gets the job done, eventually I will get that sonar dx2.

What amp/speakers/crossover/ will you all recommend?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:51 pm
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i think someone changed the sub in the logi and was impresed wit the gains he got
u could look into that scene..
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:59 pm
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http://www.focal-fr.com/

Focal has some nice home audio systems! definitely worth a look..
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:23 pm
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^^ cool, is there an authorized distributor down here?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:28 pm
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http://www.dls.se/en/home/index.html
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:39 pm
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nareshseep wrote:
^^ cool, is there an authorized distributor down here?


afaik, triple r deals with focal..
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:11 am
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why not build your own?

drivers are avalibe here to do it,amplifers and crossovers as well

all are reasonably priced
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:10 pm
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^^ what will you recommend .. new to the ht thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:37 pm
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RE subs would be recommended by many for HT use, for whatever strange reasons.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:15 pm
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try ur hand at a solid pair of towers and a sub ... the sub part is easy , the towers however arent so easy , here`s one idea



http://www.parts-express.co...ndexn.cfm?project=Tritrix
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:35 pm
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firstly- get a proper HEad source, forget eh computer.
Get a powerful av receiver or dedicated amplifier.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:43 pm
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RE subs would be recommended by many for HT use, for whatever strange reasons.


I dont like that herd mentality. I guess the reason that it is so popular is because of price and availabilty
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:47 pm
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evo-STI-k wrote:
firstly- get a proper HEad source, forget eh computer.
Get a powerful av receiver or dedicated amplifier.


If you use optical out/ spdif out I would believe that the quality will be close to a good head source. For the dedicated amplifier, I am looking for a 4 channel, evostik what will you recommend?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:48 pm
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try ur hand at a solid pair of towers and a sub ... the sub part is easy , the towers however arent so easy , here`s one idea



http://www.parts-express.co...ndexn.cfm?project=Tritrix


Interesting, will take a look at this.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:50 pm
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Anyone know of any good diy web sites for ht?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:59 pm
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http://www.hometheatershack.com/

Very good resource for HT DIYers
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:25 pm
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nareshseep wrote:
pioneer wrote:
RE subs would be recommended by many for HT use, for whatever strange reasons.


I dont like that herd mentality. I guess the reason that it is so popular is because of price and availabilty


Same thing B14 owner's think Cool
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nareshseep,

check pm
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right now i have my entire car audio system hook up to my computer and supreisingly it sounds really nice.

polk momo 6.5" (center)
polk momo 6x9 (fronts)
alpine type r 5.25" (rears)
jbl w10gti's (subs)
sound blaster x-fi xtreme audio notebook (sound card)
sony xm-1252 gtr (powering the rears)
technics 5.1 surround amp (powering subs, center, and front stage)
amp extremely underrated ( puttin out at least 400rms on the front channel @ 3 ohm, using it for the subs.


using the time correction on the sound card and everything sounds rell nice.

things in my rooms, cuz the car under some serious repairs and i didnt wanna leave the stuff in it as things tend to get lossed that way.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:24 am
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presently buildign a new system for one of the rooms in the house

DLS Ms6a components
Mono sub amp from parts express
DLS 12" sub

using car audio speakers as they will be able to handle harsher environments than the home audio stuff as the room is like a porch area as well

havent decided on the amp as yet
presently i have 2 channel sony integrated amp

total cost for the entire system should be under 10k


will post pics of this build up when we start
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SR wrote:
presently buildign a new system for one of the rooms in the house

DLS Ms6a components
Mono sub amp from parts express
DLS 12" sub

using car audio speakers as they will be able to handle harsher environments than the home audio stuff as the room is like a porch area as well

havent decided on the amp as yet
presently i have 2 channel sony integrated amp

total cost for the entire system should be under 10k


will post pics of this build up when we start


there goes the quiet neighbourhood! Rolling Eyes Laughing
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y we trinis always putting house speakers in cars & vice versa .... Neutral
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(...Rovin...) wrote:
y we trinis always putting house speakers in cars & vice versa .... Neutral


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:09 am
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If you're into building your own stuff, try DIY, its much cheaper and you'll learn a lot especially in enclosure building.

My current hi fi DIY project (small room):

Seas W15Ly001 Midranges
Peerless HDS Tweeters
Custom Passive Xover
Currently redoing those bookshelf enclosures
Marantz CD player
I have a Pioneer integrated amp, but looking into a little better integrated...hard to find the ones I'm interested in trinidad tho.
OAudio Bash 500W sub amp
Image Dynamics 12" sub SEALED...looking to upgrade to something else later on.
Just finishing up the aesthetics on that enclosure as well.

Also doing a DIY 5.1 project (for larger rooms) next month with some other stuff.

On the cheaper side of things, there are headphones..a great reference for personal listening except for visceral bass and lifelike sound stages.

I use the Grado SR60 daily at home...the best value I have ever come across in audio of any form.
A very cheap but good headphone is the Koss KSC75. Lots of bass from a compact headphone.
Also have a Sennheiser HD650 run off an Antique sound lab OTL tube headphone amp...The best midrange and highs I could ever hope for...but I don't use it. Embarassed

Later on in the year, gonna start experimenting with high efficiency setups for larger rooms.
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well, i prefer to stick to home theatre speakers for home theatre, they are usually a perfect match for a/v receivers, ie- both impedance and power............
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(...Rovin...) wrote:
y we trinis always putting house speakers in cars & vice versa .... Neutral


cant comment on others

but for my setup the ms6a's came out of my own car whe i upgraded


DLS makes very good home speaker systems and the car audio line is designed around the developments made for the home audio

car audio speakers are usually designed to handle greater fluctuations in temperatures and humidty etc as opposed to home audio where these things are usually more stable

DLS MS6a car audio $1575 a pair
http://www.dls.se/en/car/prod.html?produkt=en_70

Tweeter UP1C, 28 mm (1,1") silk dome tweeter
Woofer size 16,5 cm (6,5")
Power handling capacity 100 W RMS / 160 W max
Frequency range 45 - 20.000 Hz
Crossover point (Hz) 4500 Hz
Sensitivity 92 dB (1W/1m)

Outer diameter of woofer 165 mm (6,5")
Magnet size 100 mm (3,94")
Mounting depth 67 mm ( 2,64")
Crossover Filter box with 6/12 dB slope (LP/HP)
Size of filter box 145 x 85 x 45 mm ( 5,71 x 3,35 x 1,77")
Mounting hole 140 mm (5,5")
Impedance 4 ohm




DLS M60 home audio over 4k a pair

http://www.dls.se/en/home/prod.html?produkt=en_683
Description / type 2-way bass reflex
Finish / colour Black piano
Woofer size 6,5"
Impedance 4 ohm
Frequency range 48 Hz - 30 kHz (-3 dB)
Tweeter 28 mm soft dome tweeter
Sensitivity 88 dB/1m, 1W
Crossover point (Hz) 3600 Hz
Crossover 1st / 2nd order Bessel
Recommended amplifier 50 - 150 Watt

Weight 12,2 kg / 26,9 lbs
Dimension (W x D x H) 200 x 360 x 410 mm (7,9" x 14,2" x 16,1")


so i am sure i can achiev similar performance by building my own enclosures
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:34 pm
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silent_riot wrote:
If you're into building your own stuff, try DIY, its much cheaper and you'll learn a lot especially in enclosure building.

My current hi fi DIY project (small room):

Seas W15Ly001 Midranges
Peerless HDS Tweeters
Custom Passive Xover
Currently redoing those bookshelf enclosures
Marantz CD player
I have a Pioneer integrated amp, but looking into a little better integrated...hard to find the ones I'm interested in trinidad tho.
OAudio Bash 500W sub amp
Image Dynamics 12" sub SEALED...looking to upgrade to something else later on.
Just finishing up the aesthetics on that enclosure as well.

Also doing a DIY 5.1 project (for larger rooms) next month with some other stuff.

On the cheaper side of things, there are headphones..a great reference for personal listening except for visceral bass and lifelike sound stages.

I use the Grado SR60 daily at home...the best value I have ever come across in audio of any form.
A very cheap but good headphone is the Koss KSC75. Lots of bass from a compact headphone.
Also have a Sennheiser HD650 run off an Antique sound lab OTL tube headphone amp...The best midrange and highs I could ever hope for...but I don't use it. Embarassed

Later on in the year, gonna start experimenting with high efficiency setups for larger rooms.


Is it possible for me to get a demo of the system?
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(...Rovin...) wrote:
y we trinis always putting house speakers in cars & vice versa .... Neutral


cheaper to get loud with car subs
cheaper to get loud with DJ mids
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nareshseep, the plan is after the build to demo it for the ice club at a test and tune event. However, the system was designed for small room listening, which may be hard to get...but I'm trying...
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well i didnt mean u in particular SR, i meant some guys who dont have a clue of either car or house audio knowledge just throwing a bunch of mismatched, unplanned or unresearched items together to make up "a set" & just making a set of ole noise in d place .... Neutral
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