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nareshseep 3NE2NR is my LIFE
Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Tech posts: 779 Location: down town My 2NRide: Mazda Familia Hatch
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:52 pm Post subject: WTK: Audio for home use |
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I know this is a car site, but this is the only forum dedicated to audio , probably perhaps we need a HT thread.( for ht,hd tvs, projectors, and the like) I am looking to get some music for home , nothing to major but quality is of paramount importance, what do you guys recommend to build/buy (2.1 system).
I have currently a logi 5500, some may say sell that and buy an onkyo, that is a plan but not in the immediate future. For movies/game it is quite good. For music not so good.
I will be using my pc as the headunit, it has a audigy 2 card, I know it is old, but it gets the job done, eventually I will get that sonar dx2.
What amp/speakers/crossover/ will you all recommend? |
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X_Factor punchin NOS
Joined: 27 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 2710 Location: St. Augustine My 2NRide: NISSAN SENTRA b14
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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i think someone changed the sub in the logi and was impresed wit the gains he got
u could look into that scene.. |
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3stagevtec punchin NOS
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Tech posts: 4805 Location: killing two stones with one bird... My 2NRide: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.focal-fr.com/
Focal has some nice home audio systems! definitely worth a look.. |
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nareshseep 3NE2NR is my LIFE
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| ^^ cool, is there an authorized distributor down here? |
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SR Chief Cook & Instigator
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3stagevtec punchin NOS
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Tech posts: 4805 Location: killing two stones with one bird... My 2NRide: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| nareshseep wrote: | | ^^ cool, is there an authorized distributor down here? |
afaik, triple r deals with focal.. |
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southside connections 12 pounds of Boost
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:11 am Post subject: |
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why not build your own?
drivers are avalibe here to do it,amplifers and crossovers as well
all are reasonably priced |
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nareshseep 3NE2NR is my LIFE
Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Tech posts: 779 Location: down town My 2NRide: Mazda Familia Hatch
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| ^^ what will you recommend .. new to the ht thing. |
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pioneer punchin NOS
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| RE subs would be recommended by many for HT use, for whatever strange reasons. |
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Soundstream_626 I LUV THIS PLACE
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Tech posts: 933 Location: san juan My 2NRide: Nissan Y 11 Wingroad
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evo-STI-k Chronic TriniTuner
Joined: 10 Nov 2003 Tech posts: 557 Location: The Ghetto San Juan My 2NRide:
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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firstly- get a proper HEad source, forget eh computer.
Get a powerful av receiver or dedicated amplifier. |
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nareshseep 3NE2NR is my LIFE
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| pioneer wrote: | | RE subs would be recommended by many for HT use, for whatever strange reasons. |
I dont like that herd mentality. I guess the reason that it is so popular is because of price and availabilty |
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nareshseep 3NE2NR is my LIFE
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| evo-STI-k wrote: | firstly- get a proper HEad source, forget eh computer.
Get a powerful av receiver or dedicated amplifier. |
If you use optical out/ spdif out I would believe that the quality will be close to a good head source. For the dedicated amplifier, I am looking for a 4 channel, evostik what will you recommend? |
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nareshseep 3NE2NR is my LIFE
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting, will take a look at this. |
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nareshseep 3NE2NR is my LIFE
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone know of any good diy web sites for ht? |
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Anton Chronic TriniTuner
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pioneer punchin NOS
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| nareshseep wrote: | | pioneer wrote: | | RE subs would be recommended by many for HT use, for whatever strange reasons. |
I dont like that herd mentality. I guess the reason that it is so popular is because of price and availabilty |
Same thing B14 owner's think  |
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southside connections 12 pounds of Boost
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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nareshseep,
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carfreak1024 Trinituner Peong
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:02 am Post subject: |
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right now i have my entire car audio system hook up to my computer and supreisingly it sounds really nice.
polk momo 6.5" (center)
polk momo 6x9 (fronts)
alpine type r 5.25" (rears)
jbl w10gti's (subs)
sound blaster x-fi xtreme audio notebook (sound card)
sony xm-1252 gtr (powering the rears)
technics 5.1 surround amp (powering subs, center, and front stage)
amp extremely underrated ( puttin out at least 400rms on the front channel @ 3 ohm, using it for the subs.
using the time correction on the sound card and everything sounds rell nice.
things in my rooms, cuz the car under some serious repairs and i didnt wanna leave the stuff in it as things tend to get lossed that way. |
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SR Chief Cook & Instigator
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:24 am Post subject: |
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presently buildign a new system for one of the rooms in the house
DLS Ms6a components
Mono sub amp from parts express
DLS 12" sub
using car audio speakers as they will be able to handle harsher environments than the home audio stuff as the room is like a porch area as well
havent decided on the amp as yet
presently i have 2 channel sony integrated amp
total cost for the entire system should be under 10k
will post pics of this build up when we start |
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evo-STI-k Chronic TriniTuner
Joined: 10 Nov 2003 Tech posts: 557 Location: The Ghetto San Juan My 2NRide:
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| SR wrote: | presently buildign a new system for one of the rooms in the house
DLS Ms6a components
Mono sub amp from parts express
DLS 12" sub
using car audio speakers as they will be able to handle harsher environments than the home audio stuff as the room is like a porch area as well
havent decided on the amp as yet
presently i have 2 channel sony integrated amp
total cost for the entire system should be under 10k
will post pics of this build up when we start |
there goes the quiet neighbourhood!  |
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(...Rovin...) 3NE 2NR Power Seller
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: |
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y we trinis always putting house speakers in cars & vice versa ....  |
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3stagevtec punchin NOS
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Tech posts: 4805 Location: killing two stones with one bird... My 2NRide: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| (...Rovin...) wrote: | y we trinis always putting house speakers in cars & vice versa ....  |
we just creative.. |
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silent_riot TriniTuner WHOoRE
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:09 am Post subject: |
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If you're into building your own stuff, try DIY, its much cheaper and you'll learn a lot especially in enclosure building.
My current hi fi DIY project (small room):
Seas W15Ly001 Midranges
Peerless HDS Tweeters
Custom Passive Xover
Currently redoing those bookshelf enclosures
Marantz CD player
I have a Pioneer integrated amp, but looking into a little better integrated...hard to find the ones I'm interested in trinidad tho.
OAudio Bash 500W sub amp
Image Dynamics 12" sub SEALED...looking to upgrade to something else later on.
Just finishing up the aesthetics on that enclosure as well.
Also doing a DIY 5.1 project (for larger rooms) next month with some other stuff.
On the cheaper side of things, there are headphones..a great reference for personal listening except for visceral bass and lifelike sound stages.
I use the Grado SR60 daily at home...the best value I have ever come across in audio of any form.
A very cheap but good headphone is the Koss KSC75. Lots of bass from a compact headphone.
Also have a Sennheiser HD650 run off an Antique sound lab OTL tube headphone amp...The best midrange and highs I could ever hope for...but I don't use it.
Later on in the year, gonna start experimenting with high efficiency setups for larger rooms. |
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evo-STI-k Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| well, i prefer to stick to home theatre speakers for home theatre, they are usually a perfect match for a/v receivers, ie- both impedance and power............ |
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SR Chief Cook & Instigator
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| (...Rovin...) wrote: | y we trinis always putting house speakers in cars & vice versa ....  |
cant comment on others
but for my setup the ms6a's came out of my own car whe i upgraded
DLS makes very good home speaker systems and the car audio line is designed around the developments made for the home audio
car audio speakers are usually designed to handle greater fluctuations in temperatures and humidty etc as opposed to home audio where these things are usually more stable
DLS MS6a car audio $1575 a pair
http://www.dls.se/en/car/prod.html?produkt=en_70
Tweeter UP1C, 28 mm (1,1") silk dome tweeter
Woofer size 16,5 cm (6,5")
Power handling capacity 100 W RMS / 160 W max
Frequency range 45 - 20.000 Hz
Crossover point (Hz) 4500 Hz
Sensitivity 92 dB (1W/1m)
Outer diameter of woofer 165 mm (6,5")
Magnet size 100 mm (3,94")
Mounting depth 67 mm ( 2,64")
Crossover Filter box with 6/12 dB slope (LP/HP)
Size of filter box 145 x 85 x 45 mm ( 5,71 x 3,35 x 1,77")
Mounting hole 140 mm (5,5")
Impedance 4 ohm
DLS M60 home audio over 4k a pair
http://www.dls.se/en/home/prod.html?produkt=en_683
Description / type 2-way bass reflex
Finish / colour Black piano
Woofer size 6,5"
Impedance 4 ohm
Frequency range 48 Hz - 30 kHz (-3 dB)
Tweeter 28 mm soft dome tweeter
Sensitivity 88 dB/1m, 1W
Crossover point (Hz) 3600 Hz
Crossover 1st / 2nd order Bessel
Recommended amplifier 50 - 150 Watt
Weight 12,2 kg / 26,9 lbs
Dimension (W x D x H) 200 x 360 x 410 mm (7,9" x 14,2" x 16,1")
so i am sure i can achiev similar performance by building my own enclosures |
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nareshseep 3NE2NR is my LIFE
Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Tech posts: 779 Location: down town My 2NRide: Mazda Familia Hatch
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| silent_riot wrote: | If you're into building your own stuff, try DIY, its much cheaper and you'll learn a lot especially in enclosure building.
My current hi fi DIY project (small room):
Seas W15Ly001 Midranges
Peerless HDS Tweeters
Custom Passive Xover
Currently redoing those bookshelf enclosures
Marantz CD player
I have a Pioneer integrated amp, but looking into a little better integrated...hard to find the ones I'm interested in trinidad tho.
OAudio Bash 500W sub amp
Image Dynamics 12" sub SEALED...looking to upgrade to something else later on.
Just finishing up the aesthetics on that enclosure as well.
Also doing a DIY 5.1 project (for larger rooms) next month with some other stuff.
On the cheaper side of things, there are headphones..a great reference for personal listening except for visceral bass and lifelike sound stages.
I use the Grado SR60 daily at home...the best value I have ever come across in audio of any form.
A very cheap but good headphone is the Koss KSC75. Lots of bass from a compact headphone.
Also have a Sennheiser HD650 run off an Antique sound lab OTL tube headphone amp...The best midrange and highs I could ever hope for...but I don't use it.
Later on in the year, gonna start experimenting with high efficiency setups for larger rooms. |
Is it possible for me to get a demo of the system? |
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DJ Q 18 pounds of Boost
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| (...Rovin...) wrote: | y we trinis always putting house speakers in cars & vice versa ....  |
cheaper to get loud with car subs
cheaper to get loud with DJ mids |
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silent_riot TriniTuner WHOoRE
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| nareshseep, the plan is after the build to demo it for the ice club at a test and tune event. However, the system was designed for small room listening, which may be hard to get...but I'm trying... |
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(...Rovin...) 3NE 2NR Power Seller
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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well i didnt mean u in particular SR, i meant some guys who dont have a clue of either car or house audio knowledge just throwing a bunch of mismatched, unplanned or unresearched items together to make up "a set" & just making a set of ole noise in d place ....  |
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