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wagonrunner 18 pounds of Boost
Joined: 18 May 2004 Tech posts: 2459 Location: Staying just ahead of the curve My 2NRide: Nissan Y10 Wingroad LE
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:43 am Post subject: Wear and tear on vehicles that compete |
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was to make this thread a while now............
I have heard, and read comments by persons who to my knowledge have never entered a car, saying dex damages the vehicles suspensions, mounts, etc.
now from my experience, while i was a novice, and not fulyl understanding what was expected, i did abuse my tires from trying to accelerate too hard and to early (wheels not straight).
but apart from that, i would like to know what parts have you had to change since you started dexing.
two engine side mounts - 1 busted in accident. other had more than 160,000k on the odo.
one rear engine mount - reshaped during accident
rear wheel bearing @ 186,000k making a slight noise.
cradle arm busings - never changed.
stabilizer bar rubbers - can't count, changed maybe yearly, eve before dex, and doubt i'll have to after energy suspension put in.
anyway, what i'm trying to reason is, does this put unnecessary licks on our vehicles? is my car simply tougher than others that competed? or are the persons that are making these comments, relying on noobs info, or no credible info at all? |
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Rudman Riding on 17's
Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1242 Location: Wanting to blame Goodridge, but its my fault. My 2NRide:
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Since I've starting dexing my car 2 years ago, I've changed a wheel bearing and a sticking brake caliper in the back. Changed 3 engine mounts, ends and knuckle joints as well.
But the car has over 100 000km, and I do a lot of daily driving with it (in south roads). AFAIC, Its hard to attribute these items as casulties of dex. These are normal wear and tear issues.
I don't have any engine or transmission issues with the car (knock on wood). |
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crazybalhead punchin NOS
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Tires are the only real wear item from dex. All it is is short bursts of less than two minutes on a flat course.
I did get a scuff from a cone once which took a whole five minutes to take off with a cloth and some polish!
ZIM IS YOU THE MAN TALKING ABOUT EH!!!!!!
But really, i don't see how a dex course can mash up you car more than a trip from POS to Chaguanas. |
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wagonrunner 18 pounds of Boost
Joined: 18 May 2004 Tech posts: 2459 Location: Staying just ahead of the curve My 2NRide: Nissan Y10 Wingroad LE
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:58 am Post subject: |
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crazybalhead,
doh be yuhself.
is not Zim alone. plenty "experts" seem to have this impression, and "knowingly" inform others of it.
i would like to know if my opinion of it is wrong or not. |
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Razkal 2NRholic
Joined: 30 May 2004 Tech posts: 2314 Location: .......hiding the fact that I am a "fluffy" rotary owner. My 2NRide:
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Never really had to do any repairs as a result of taking part.
Tires for the most part and thats it
Even in the corolla, mounts, bearings, bushings, all stock and all functional, none ever showed signs of deteriorating due to competition. Same goes for the rx7, well that has full poly bushings so i doubt they'll need replacing at all.
I never got that whole argument about dex being "wear and tear" on your car, driving on trini roads day to day is much worse than some spirited driving for under 5 mins
Plus i'm sure that once you learn proper techniques, like wagonrunner said, learning when to accelerate, turn in, avoid excess body roll etc will help drop your times and be easier on your car. |
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Go Fast 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Tech posts: 171 Location: I Cayman Went My 2NRide: Subaru 2.0 GX
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| crazybalhead wrote: | Tires are the only real wear item from dex. All it is is short bursts of less than two minutes on a flat course.
I did get a scuff from a cone once which took a whole five minutes to take off with a cloth and some polish!
ZIM IS YOU THE MAN TALKING ABOUT EH!!!!!!
But really, i don't see how a dex course can mash up you car more than a trip from POS to Chaguanas. |
If you knew the stress on those little wheel bearings and the rubbers holding your car together while u ask it to do stuff the engineers testing it out did...u would re consider your comments.
Primary Cradle Arm Bushings, 4 slack bolts on subframe, Tyre outer sides.......
i think that's it...... But point to note... The car drives me to and from Chaguaramas, since last year sept, and i owned this car 2 years and change now....puls it have bad roads where i live..
So i consider damage minimal. |
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Ignorant Ignis 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:56 am Post subject: |
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suzuki ignis sport ...3.5 years old ....got it friday after noon and went to dex saturday night with less than 10k on the od...... and been dexing it since.
never changed a part as a result of dex ....just lots and lots of tires.  |
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Rudman Riding on 17's
Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1242 Location: Wanting to blame Goodridge, but its my fault. My 2NRide:
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Ahem.......*cough*spun*cough*bearing*cough,cough* |
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wagonrunner 18 pounds of Boost
Joined: 18 May 2004 Tech posts: 2459 Location: Staying just ahead of the curve My 2NRide: Nissan Y10 Wingroad LE
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Rudman wrote: | | Ahem.......*cough*spun*cough*bearing*cough,cough* |
that wasn't at dex.
that was some ??high?? speed stability testing. other rumour say it was against the stig in a F550. |
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Rudman Riding on 17's
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh......O.K.......my bad. |
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crazybalhead punchin NOS
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Go Fast wrote: | | crazybalhead wrote: | Tires are the only real wear item from dex. All it is is short bursts of less than two minutes on a flat course.
I did get a scuff from a cone once which took a whole five minutes to take off with a cloth and some polish!
ZIM IS YOU THE MAN TALKING ABOUT EH!!!!!!
But really, i don't see how a dex course can mash up you car more than a trip from POS to Chaguanas. |
If you knew the stress on those little wheel bearings and the rubbers holding your car together while u ask it to do stuff the engineers testing it out did...u would re consider your comments.
Primary Cradle Arm Bushings, 4 slack bolts on subframe, Tyre outer sides.......
i think that's it...... But point to note... The car drives me to and from Chaguaramas, since last year sept, and i owned this car 2 years and change now....puls it have bad roads where i live..
So i consider damage minimal. |
Doh worry bout the engineer for my car nah. I feel they had sporting activities in mind. And I have energy suspension poly bushings, no worries dey. |
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Ignorant Ignis 3NE 2NR Moderator
Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Tech posts: 962
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| wagonrunner wrote: | | Rudman wrote: | | Ahem.......*cough*spun*cough*bearing*cough,cough* |
that wasn't at dex.
that was some ??high?? speed stability testing. other rumour say it was against the stig in a F550. |
that was a user error and could have happend anywhere  |
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wagonrunner 18 pounds of Boost
Joined: 18 May 2004 Tech posts: 2459 Location: Staying just ahead of the curve My 2NRide: Nissan Y10 Wingroad LE
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Ignorant Ignis wrote: | that was a user error and could have happened anywhere  |
understandable, and unfortunate.
i hoping yuh allow for an ??upgrade?? of the organics on sunday  |
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moti Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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...the organics behind the steering wheel had a glitch
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that was a user error and could have happend anywhere
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i own a roro and i can't read japane
but those local vehicles has a english version of the owners manaul
so i want to know does these manauls has a " trouble shooting guide "
for users who has some operating errors  |
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wagonrunner 18 pounds of Boost
Joined: 18 May 2004 Tech posts: 2459 Location: Staying just ahead of the curve My 2NRide: Nissan Y10 Wingroad LE
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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moti,
What exactly are you asking  |
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moti Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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iggy said there was a user error
i was just wondering if he owner manaul for the ignis came with a trouble shooting guide
seeing he having user errors
i just joking with you guys wrunner  |
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wagonrunner 18 pounds of Boost
Joined: 18 May 2004 Tech posts: 2459 Location: Staying just ahead of the curve My 2NRide: Nissan Y10 Wingroad LE
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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moti,
cool
yuh hit a nerve there nah, cause another user told me i'm a defect, so was wondering what yuh was really saying.  |
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Go Fast 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Tech posts: 171 Location: I Cayman Went My 2NRide: Subaru 2.0 GX
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: |
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| crazybalhead wrote: | | Go Fast wrote: | | crazybalhead wrote: | Tires are the only real wear item from dex. All it is is short bursts of less than two minutes on a flat course.
I did get a scuff from a cone once which took a whole five minutes to take off with a cloth and some polish!
ZIM IS YOU THE MAN TALKING ABOUT EH!!!!!!
But really, i don't see how a dex course can mash up you car more than a trip from POS to Chaguanas. |
If you knew the stress on those little wheel bearings and the rubbers holding your car together while u ask it to do stuff the engineers testing it out did...u would re consider your comments.
Primary Cradle Arm Bushings, 4 slack bolts on subframe, Tyre outer sides.......
i think that's it...... But point to note... The car drives me to and from Chaguaramas, since last year sept, and i owned this car 2 years and change now....puls it have bad roads where i live..
So i consider damage minimal. |
Doh worry bout the engineer for my car nah. I feel they had sporting activities in mind. And I have energy suspension poly bushings, no worries dey. |
dais def an upgrade i wanna make. |
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Razkal 2NRholic
Joined: 30 May 2004 Tech posts: 2314 Location: .......hiding the fact that I am a "fluffy" rotary owner. My 2NRide:
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: |
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^Best "bang for the buck" for solodex imo
Poly bushings can take a beating like Kunta Kinte and makes your ride feel like it just came back from boot camp, really rigid and poised, not stiff and unstreetable, but really rigid. Its just really facking squeeky
Thats the only suspension mod on the rx7 now and it was definitely worth it.
Check W2J for a set for your car, got my entire kit from him, good price too  |
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Advil Sweet on this forum
Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Tech posts: 388 Location: Ahreeemah My 2NRide: Nissan Almera
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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well i'm glad wagonrunner created this thread
cuz wear and tear was one of the main reasons eh run yet(aside from 1.3 intimidation) |
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