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TTASA Drags this Sunday - Briefing on Tuesday
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Dave
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:05 pm
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i say we going and lime
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:10 pm
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who's timing system?
60ft times?
mph?

will a print out be given to drivers so they can guage the performance/tuning of their cars?

thats a costly lime boy

but the car is ready for some tuning
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:59 pm
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I would like to have this guideline enforced for this up-coming event:(I apologize if I am not supposed to use TTASA's name below)

DRAG RACING

Water Box: Your vehicle will be guided into the water box by an TTASA official, or one of your crew members. Burnouts will be started when signaled to do so by the official TTASA starter.
Traction Compound: Traction compound may only be used in the area marked out and agreed upon. Traction compound may not be used on the starting line.
Burn Outs: Vehicles running 9.99 or quicker are the only ones allowed to burn out across the start line. Regardless of ET. All other entries will be disqualified for burning out across the line. One crewmember
is permitted in front of the vehicle for backing purposes for entries running 9.99 or quicker. All rolling burnouts must be started before the starting line. Absolutely no holding a vehicle during a burn out.
Starting: The lights on the tree come down on either a .4 tenths Pro-Tree or a .5 tenths Full Tree, depending on class.
Competition
Driver's Meetings: Driver's meetings are held at the base of the tower before eliminations. Attendance is mandatory.
Pairings: Pairings will be determined in the lanes for test and tune and by the race director in the tower for competition. There are no back-outs, you must race who you draw or lose the round..
Pre Staging: Once you've started your burn out, there is one minute to pre stage. 9.99 or quicker vehicles have 2 minutes to pre
stage. Pre staging involves moving your car forward to the starting line, until the top light on the tree in your lane has been lit.
Courtesy Staging involves waiting until your opponent has pre staged to inch forward and completely stage your vehicle. Racers who
do not use courtesy-staging techniques may be subject to disqualification.
• When the first racer completely stages the other racer has 20 seconds to completely stage his/her car. If the 2nd car is not completely staged in 20 seconds, the starter would activate the start system, the red light will come on in that lane and the tree will countdown to start the first racer.
• After both cars have completely staged, the tree will countdown after a selected random delay. Depending on the class, that delay will be between 2-2.5 seconds, or 3-3.5 seconds.
• Deep staging is illegal. Both the pre-stage and the stage lights must be lit when the tree countdown begins or a DS Foul will be committed and the red light will come on in that lane.
• Backing out from being completely staged will result in your run being terminated.
• No crew person may be in front of the front wheel of the car during the staging process.
Dual Infractions/Breakage: In the event of dual infractions on a competitive run, the car making the worst infraction will be disqualified.
If infractions are of equal rank, the first infraction shall be disqualified.
Breakouts: On any run of a handicap eliminator, if both cars breakout, the car breaking out the least will be declared the winner. If both cars breakout the same amount, the "first-to-finish" shall be declared the winner.
Tow Vehicles: Only vehicles running 9.99 seconds or quicker are allowed to use a tow vehicle. All other classes must return to their pit area under their own power. Tow vehicles must have the competition number on the vehicle. Passengers must be completely inside the vehicle. Tow vehicles must immediately follow the race vehicle and should observe all return road speed limits and safety rules.
Return Road: The speed limits on the return road are 30mph until the first spectator seating area, 15mph until the ET Booth, and 5mph in the pits. If you experience technical problems, pull off the return road onto the grass and request assistance from an TTASA official.
Should you experience any problems from spectators or witness any spectator causing problems by the return road, please bring it to the attention of any TTASA official. No vehicles may use the racetrack for return purposes without the race director's approval.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:00 pm
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Duane you entering drags? Question
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:02 pm
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Deep staging is illegal. LMAO. Both the pre-stage and the stage lights must be lit when the tree countdown begins


Calvin yuh tell Larry about this rule? Cause yuh know he lovvvvvves tuh deep stage.

Who came up with this rule? Since when the timing system can foul someone for turning off the top pre-stage bulb.

If TTASA wanted to know about this rule they should have asked about it at the briefing meeting on Tuesday. Just as they did when they were asking about the double breakout rule.

Well I guess this is one of those mysterious rules like "the FIA licenses"
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:35 pm
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dragaholic, I pulled these rules from part of the rules from an official event in the states, and I'm hoping we pick on "standard" and have everyone abide by it........ It's up for suggestions, but remember, I'm in charge of the start line, so I intend to get strict with the shallow stage/ deep stage/ red light issue
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:40 pm
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sorry....that would be.."pick one standard"........and if the timing system can't pick it up, I noticed that the majority of the time someone deep-stages so far that when the launch they get a red light, I'm going to insist that the red light dq sticks!!!! people have to learn to do the right thing!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:55 pm
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the thing is there is no standards from ttasa when it comes to drag racing

they keep telling you to pay for FIA temp license but yet FIA rules for drag racing are not even followed................doh mind dey copy nhra............
starting with the conduct of officials and drinking alcohol


how can you expect others to follow the rules if the people in charge dont do it
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:26 pm
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how can you expect others to follow the rules if the people in charge dont do it



well them have to set the example for the people to follow....


Let me ask you something SR, them people who are in charge dont follow the rules but if them catch someone who is normal breaking the rules what will be the outcome of them?.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:20 pm
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A question , something I read posted before . All drivers must have 2 people " sponser " them before they can race . Like 2 racers/people have to stand up an say they know you. Will this hold true for TnT days . I,m only gonna be there short time , and want to get a run or two in ..77.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:57 pm
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^ no no
to become a member of TTASA two other members need to "ok" you.
This has nothing to do with racing.
Anyone can race, member or not, once your car passes scrutineering.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:07 pm
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is it 100 or 20 dollars to race SATURDAY ALONE?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:36 pm
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any pics from yesterday, i will try to come down today
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:24 pm
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as I predicted........because people didn't take me seriously with the rules suggested, for example we had incidents like Chester throwing a fit and demanding a re-run....and getting it...in all unfairness to the guy in the red, black and silver 3rd Gen RX7........just as with Omar in the last event.....triggering the red light by shallow staging too much....then there were a lot of arguements about burn-outs and traction compound......too much indicipline....
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:29 pm
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4everstock wrote:
as I predicted........because people didn't take me seriously with the rules suggested, for example we had incidents like Chester throwing a fit and demanding a re-run....and getting it...in all unfairness to the guy in the red, black and silver 3rd Gen RX7........just as with Omar in the last event.....triggering the red light by shallow staging too much....then there were a lot of arguements about burn-outs and traction compound......too much indicipline....


Stock with this individual this has been goin on for a looooooong time. "Kyah take ah loss syndrome" .Also apprently him and the 3rd gen have a little grudge goin on since the last event.

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triggering the red light by shallow staging too much..

So let me get this straight he got a re-run because of this? Was this in competition or grudge?

So then TTASA owes me a re-run as well. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:16 pm
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yup....and he beat the Rx& in the re-run. Just like what happened with Omar last time
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