Toyota Men Come Forth 2

mrboxman · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:23 am Post subject:

for the ae-82 i doubt the make performance shocks and if they did i probably wont be able to afford them right now so of
however i would like it for street performance

gt4tified · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:55 pm Post subject:

TK! · Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:51 am Post subject:

you can also add a turbo to the 4age-ze i've heard. there's a turbo+super charged levin in the caribbean somewhere a partner say.

btw, i is a toyota man too. first car: corolla .. wanted a 4age for it.
well i get the engine... in a trueno... so ah buy it... the trueno Mr. Green

iz fun. but i need more power and speed... got desensitized.

mrboxman · Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:19 am Post subject:

will a 4age gearbox fit on a 5a-fe ?
someone told me no it cant
but right now i have the original tranny from my 4a-c on the 5a-fe
so can someone tell me if the 4age gearbox can fit?

seanf3000 · Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:22 pm Post subject:

^^I have my doubts about that one......we talking auto or manual trannys

Tariq......what u need is cams meh boi......cams...cams...cams!!!

pyromaniak · Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:40 pm Post subject:

So?

High rev power with NA and VVT or slightly lower rev power with supercharger and no VVT Question

Opinions please

gt4tified · Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:51 am Post subject:

PYRO...it also depends on the application that the car is going to be used for...
a daily driver in traffic etc would fare better n/a than with the additional heat of a supercharger. Either that or upgrade your cooling system.

If its a car strictly for the street, weekend warrior or for rallying...hell, go forced induction.

One more thing that the guys have not mentioned...the transaxle. The 4agze comes with a 6fwd transaxle while the 4age comes in 5fwd.

While the latter is easier to repair as parts are easier to find...yuh need a reaaal good mechanic to repair a 6fwd box. Also...if the entire transaxle needs to be changed, the availability of a replacement should also be considered.

And you can ask any toyota driver with a racing engine what is the first thing to go bad mechanically....almost always its the transaxle, be it synchros or gears!

This is where ppl like Trac, Go Slow and I could tell you ...from experience, not just some 2nr on a HP crazed-trip!

Hope that this info helps your decision... Cool

AllTrac · Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 3:20 am Post subject:

BOOST BOOST BOOST! THERE IS NO FEELING LIKE IT! EVEN AT 5PSI Crying or Very sad

WHEN YOU GO BOOSTED THERE IS NO LOOKING BACK, TRUST ME Mr. Green

Jimbo · Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:45 am Post subject:

A-1 Superior Tech · Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:31 am Post subject:

damn right trac! i cant even find the door to turn back to NA, NA cars just boring for me now Mr. Green

gt4tified · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:13 am Post subject:

^^^roflmao!

Mitsu power · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 3:07 am Post subject:

this man still on choosing between a 4age 20v and 4agze .. boss let me brake it down simple for u .. the 4age 20v is at its limits is a trd tuned engine they squezze every drop of hp out of that engine with out compramizing driveability. porting wouldnt help , the oinly thing u can do with a 20v is higher compression pistons or bigger bore the 20 v head will fit on the 7a fe block the 1.8 so u got a 1.8 20v but u loss the trd internals ... to boost the 20v blitz have a kit for $6000 US thats the only kit i know of f. and a home project u have to contend with CR, vvt , fuel .... that a piggy back ecu a decompression head gaskit and bigger fuel delivery then tunning .. after all that u may get about a 170- 200 hp out of the engine .. O for u guys the black top 20v is not 175 hp as rated its more like 140 -150 if so much the 175 rating is on race fuel .. not bashing the 4age 20v i like it the motor those haul ass in the upper rpm as it was intended to do .. boss go with the 4agze even thou it may be a older engine with the 4agze is widly used and is also used to make a bi-charge motor thats a super charger to turbo setup .. if u dont like the sc u can take his ass out and place a turbo .. dont get fool with the 20v the 20v runs on 16v in the lower rpm and thens opend the 5th valve to increase air flow at higher rpms its brilliant but limited for road / race car its more of a pure race technology .. To be honest the 20 v was originally built for the atlantic race cars where those engine rev to 12000 + and running 13-1 compression on race gas devloping 200- 300 hp

pyromaniak · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:06 pm Post subject:

Sorry to disappoint all you guys but I am going with the 20v. I made my choice based on price #1 and availability of parts. This is my daily driver and is not going to be too heavily modified. The GZE is upwards of $7000.00 and as a student I don't feel like spending all that on an engine. Sorry. I still think I'll have enough fun with the 20v. Until I get my hand on a MR2 of course Mr. Green

So thank ya'll very much I got lots of useful info and I learnt alot about the engines.
So then now to get that sucker in the car...... Sigh Rolling Eyes

AllTrac · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:57 pm Post subject:

good choice, it all boils down to affordability, if thats what you can afford, then go for it, its your money after all, hope you enjoy it, any help you need, we here Cool

gt4tified · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 7:35 pm Post subject:

Trac, yuh pisshead....wham to BOOST and more BOOST?

Anyways, good luck pyro...any probs with the install you could check tk421, Raziel, Strauss and Mr. GO Slow. They all have experience with that engine.

AllTrac · Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 7:55 pm Post subject:

man cant afford it now, so we still hadda support his decision Mr. Green

pyromaniak · Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:10 am Post subject:

Yeah fellas GZE go break mih back Mr. Green

Mitsu power · Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:52 am Post subject:

^^^ cool due u will enjoy the 20 v black top

blu-rolla · Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:16 pm Post subject:

breds yuh need to do yuh own research. doh know where some men does get info from.
GZE does come 5fwd. its not 4psi, more like 12. can be pushed up to 14/15 by simply changing the pulley.
I think it runs on the SC12 supercharger, you can upgrade to the SC14 if you still want more power.
yes the 20v is more HP than the STOCK gze, but its very easy to increase power on a gze. its turbo-ready. give me a couple months and i'll show you. project GTE is back on.
and you can get a gze for less than that. i got mine without gbox, ac, and power steering for 2K. I already have a small port 16, so i'll swap the other stuff from it.
I saw a complete one sometime back for 5K.
I've seen people put over 20psi on the gze pistons. you couldn't do that on a 20v piston.

tte · Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:47 pm Post subject:

Agreed blue rolla i was now going to comment on that. Lets see if i can clear this up. The bigger superchardger comes from a 1GGZE, that supercharger, is about 17% larger in volume and so can be spun slower to pump the same amount of air at the same revs. The silver top 20v is 160 at 7800 and hge black top 20v is 165 at 8000. The ae92 smallport 4agze is 165 and the 101 smallport gze is 170. So the 20v is not more power and not nearly as much torque. Stock psi on the supercharger is 8-10 psi depending on the model and cusco have a 14psi pulley. The 20v is not a TRD tuned engine. The engine developed for the formula atlantic series was a TRD usa smallport 4age 16v. The 7afe is a 1.8 16v and the 20v head cannot fit on the 1800 block because the pistons are made to fit 4 valves per cylinder not 5. A 7age is a 7a bottom with a smallport 4age 16v head. Blue rolla 4agte sounds awsome u need a gze brain thow as thats alredy made to fuel boost. Mr. Green