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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:27 pm
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Corner weighed results for the Evo X vs Evo IX

EVO X

463FL 460FR 923kg 56.4%
355RL 361RR 716kg 43.6%

1639kg

EVO 9

448FL 481FR 929kg 61.2%
284RL 306RR 590kg 38.8%


The front is lighter...but the rear is significantly heavier.

Now imagine reducing a bit of the rear weight to bring this car closer to the IXs weight.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:55 am
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That makes no sense, I would reduce more weight in FRONT to balance the car better. Lighter IC piping, battery relocate and whatever else. CF hood...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:10 am
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battery is already in the trunk
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:11 am
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but notice the L-R distribution is better than that of the Evo 9
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:14 am
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scientist wrote:
but notice the L-R distribution is better than that of the Evo 9


very much so. Which would mean a better balanced car already.
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scientist wrote:
battery is already in the trunk

Didn't realise that nah! Cool
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some good info dey Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:06 am
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The Results are In...Sanctifier weh you... Hi scientist, how yuh goin'.
crazybalhead wrote:
...I would reduce more weight in FRONT to balance the car better.
Lighter IC piping, battery relocate and whatever else. CF hood...

I agree with crazybalhead here.
Lightened rear = More front weight bias = More UNDERSTEER... NOT good IMHO.

crazybalhead, Evo X is a heavy ol' bus! To lighten it, need to get VERY radical IMHO.
Sanctifier wrote:
Evo CURB Weight in lbs.... (ol' school, what can I say.) Smile

Evo X = n.a. .(5-speed RS) ...... 3517 (5-speed GSR) ...... 3594 (6-speed MR).

Evo 9 = 3219 (5-speed RS) ...... 3263 (5-speed GSR) ...... 3285 (6-speed MR).

Evo 6 = 2778 (5-speed RS) ...... 2822 (5-speed GSR) ...... n.a. . (5-speed MR).

Evo X MR is over 800 lbs. (370 kg.) HEAVIER than Evo 6 RS Exclamation

Maybe could try something like this...
Sanctifier wrote:
Evo X front fenders, bonnet & roof(?) are already aluminium.

Not sure if do this already but use "thin walled" alloy inner crash beams in bumpers and
doors PLUS expanded urethane foam for extra stiffness. (Just like OEM Lancer Cedia shell.)


(Most important first...) Doors... trunk... rr. spoiler & side-skirts from carbon fibre or aluminium.

Front & rear bumpers from deformable plastic for minor damage resistance and low maintenance.

Hopefully, all that should "lose" at least 350-450 lbs... with luck, maybe more.
Still tough to get down to 2778 lb. E6 RS weight without "gutting" interior though. Wink
Sanctifier wrote:
THIS is what I've been saying all along... 816 lbs. = FOUR BIG passengers!
That is plenty EXTRA weight to carry on a circuit... or in a drag-race! Rolling Eyes

People spend serious $$$ on carbon fibre trunk, bonnet etc. to save maybe 50-100 lbs.

An older Evo 5-6 has a significant weight advantage to start with...
Now "lose" the rear spoiler... and spend the "carbon-fibre" $$$ on WIDER rims/tyres...
or better suspension... or BOTH!...

I don't care how much advantage S-AWC gives Evo X... it can't reverse the laws of physics.
Similar engine output in E5-6 + 800 lbs LESS weight + More adhesion = BYE, BYE Evo X!
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Another reason why I don't want to sell my Evo 6 RS2 and get a newer model! Laughing

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