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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:37 pm
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redline and amsoil is similar in performance they are both choices of leading DSM ppl.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:50 pm
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hmmm, cool, will do my oil change this week if god permits.


but what about my other prob....

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also, i have a lil prob. when i drive my car slow, sometimes, not all the time, its kinda hard to go into 3rd. if i double clutch tho, it goes in ok. what can cause this? sometimes i might feel a type of grate. my shifter bushings are gone i think tho, the shifter has alot of play.
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Nik
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:40 pm
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janfar wrote:
Nik, What in the joint you damaged, keep me updated.


scrapping the front between today-wednesday... will keep posted

but i think i know what caused it to give away... was playin d a$$ with some 4wd drifting some time ago Embarassed
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janfar
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:57 pm
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Lol, ive been doing some serious powerslides and drifting in a big vacant car park here in Mayaro. Hope I dont damage anything.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:12 pm
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hhmm like my car is the most babied around never launched or driffted .....i use royal purple in my car and have had no problems....on the contrary these cars evo 1-3 are the hardest to work on there is almost no space in that engine bay ive had the unfortunate task of replacing a a/c compressor and taking down a alternator to have it serviced an it is the worst....god forbid the day i have to change mounts Shocked i think allround they are great cars the lack of ayc and the other gadgets that come in the later models makes it a fun drive..and still one of the most nimble evos in stock form....great thread l..hopefully when i start upgrades i can make a meaningful contribution Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:22 pm
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True words but from what i have experienced from both a almost stock e3 like yours and a well equipped e4 the difference is very hard to identify even with the AYC of the e4 yours handled some sharp cornering and turning as we experience today i must say am amazed at the performance and tastefully done upgrades, i hope you sort out the alternator problem soon and even with that problem we still had a good go so i say cheers to that.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:56 pm
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Virus wrote:
True words but from what i have experienced from both a almost stock e3 like yours and a well equipped e4 the difference is very hard to identify even with the AYC of the e4 yours handled some sharp cornering and turning as we experience today i must say am amazed at the performance and tastefully done upgrades, i hope you sort out the alternator problem soon and even with that problem we still had a good go so i say cheers to that.




Handling courtesy OHLINS Twisted Evil tanx starr hope you get through with acquiring one of these... Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:24 am
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Maybe a certain e3 from sunday who knows Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:51 am
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Which part this fun take place???

We should get together and plan a day for the early evos to run somewhere???
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:15 am
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janfar wrote:
Which part this fun take place???

We should get together and plan a day for the early evos to run somewhere???


i supporting that 100% i think there is much that can be had in terms of shared experiences...pm me most present ! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:49 am
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IM IN ALSO.


so does anyone know anything about my shifting prob stated above?
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janfar
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:03 pm
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Im having the same prob hoss. I think it could be a number of factors.

1. leaking clutch master and slave cylinder.
2. Air in the clutch system.
3. seals not strong enough to exert the force required to move the extreme or in your case heavy duty pressure plate.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:18 pm
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janfar wrote:
Which part this fun take place???

We should get together and plan a day for the early evos to run somewhere???


after you blow past us couple sundays ago between manzan and plum mitan???

Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:20 pm
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janfar,i changed the slave seals since that was leaking b4. it did help the prob a bit. maybe the master needs changing also? Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:24 pm
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Maybe it does. Where you got the seals purchased.

http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209174

idlemind, me hoss Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:27 pm
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janfar,just dropped it off by my mechanic that day and they got everything for me. do you think shifter bushings can cause this also? as in my shifter has alot of play even when in a gear.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:47 pm
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Very possible, I need to have mine changed as well, going to have some teflon bushings made and put on my new short throw shifter. The eye bushes on the links over the gearbox looks good in mine. Also check the location of the top water hose from your rad to engine. Sometimes this gets in the way of your linkage causing hard shifting.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:53 pm
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janfar,hmmmm good info. how much and where are u gonna get the bushings made?

the thing is, first to second is great, second to third is hard and crunchy, third to fourth is better and fourth to fifth is good. reverse gives a lil trouble also. only second to third gives the crunchy feeling tho.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:00 pm
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Heres what to do, get someone to change the gears for you while you look down into the engine bay at the shifter links and see if it jams up on something.

Plenty people make teflon stuff now. I havent decided where to go yet, but when i do I could prolly check you and we could head down together.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:35 pm
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yea was u self janfar, yuh taillights sell yuh out Laughing

was a small convoy from mitsucrew,
u passed us where the road open up for overtaking between grande and plum i believe.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:42 pm
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Not all ACT are the same be careful who you buy from. China man say cheap thing no good, make sure you run a GL4 oil in the box if your gears are grating it is because GL5 was used and its eating the brass rings.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:48 pm
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W2J, Shocked Crying or Very sad i still have to check u for a FULL amsoil oil setup yes. just want to get my bushings sorted out first but people keep telling me they can get it then after some time, they cant get it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:26 pm
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idlemind, amount of ppl i does pass on my way to trincity i dont remember, next time flag me down.

Death-Row, Just take down your bushings and take to to a rubber molding company and have them remade.


W2J, point duly noted.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:28 pm
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^ who are those "people" maybe the same type that never raced, built or even own a fast Mitsubishi? I certainly hope its not the same that made you buy a copper setup for a 4WD car that does not have enough power to slip the wheels without doing damage to the TC.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:43 pm
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live and learn i guess. you and sanctifier gave me some good info, in the process of doing over the car. the car works better based on the info gathered from you guys. thanks. will keep in contact.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:46 pm
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took down the joint today... soon as we pulled the axle out the joint just kinda fell apart... Shocked bearings went rolling all over the place... so will be changing the join this week... both


hummm... from what i'm getting here is it that the copper clutch setup is bad for our cars once used as a daily driver???

my last car (GSR) was running a ACT street & strip setup but my EVO II has ACT 6 puck copper clutch, heavy duty pp, & a slightly lightened flywheel & i have no problems with this.
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Nik, i think the problem lies in the launches, where all wheels require torque which means extra force required by the engine to move them. With a copper clutch theirs nearly 0 slippage. So when you get a sudden increase in torque at the wheels all that is transferred to the TC/ GB which could result in sudden snapping or damaging of parts. With a non copper clutch, you would get sudden slippage in the event that you do get a sudden increase in torque. Look at it like a safety feature protecting your TC/GB/
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:23 pm
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well said janfar. i guess unless u have enough power to break traction, a copper isnt the best for our cars?


i try not to launch my car while i have the copper installed. sorting a few other things out first then ill change clutch setup.
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hummm... i see.... arigato gozaimasu sensei lol
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What mods ave you done so far???
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