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The Diesel Boys Maintenance Thread *4x4/4x2*
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equipped2ripp
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:09 pm
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I'm currently using Castrol Ultramax and change the oil and filter every 5000 km as recommended by Toyota.

I saw a post on an australian website where some of the prado owners with the 1kz-te engine (3.0 td) uses mobil syntec oil. They were changing every 15 000km. I'm considering going syntec (mobil) and changing every 12 000km.

I'm off the impression that syntec oil will help run the engine cooler which might aid with the over heating problems associated with the some turbo diesel engines.



using the mobil delvac synthetic diesel oil in those 1kz-te engines is right. they're a bit thin though, 5w-40
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equipped2ripp
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:10 pm
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what about those slick-50 diesel engine treatments, anyone ever used them?
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venum
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:14 pm
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equipped2ripp wrote:
using the mobil delvac synthetic diesel oil in those 1kz-te engines is right. they're a bit thin though, 5w-40


5W 40 in a diesel engine?

that not a lil too thin?
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sweeks
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:47 pm
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Equip2Ripp..... what sort of mileage are we talking between oil change re syntec oil?

Engine Treatments... read on the net where they can actually do more bad than good by clogging small passages in the engines. However before reading this I've used them only once in each vehicle I had and never had any problems.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:52 pm
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Bleedingfreek tell me more about Red LIne Diesel Wetter. Been thinking about getting a secondary temperature gauge as well since Toyota temp gauge aren't always 100% accurate.


WaterWetter® is a unique wetting agent for cooling systems which reduces coolant temperatures by as much as 30ºF. This liquid product can be used to provide rust and corrosion protection in plain water for racing engines, which provides much better heat transfer properties than glycol-based antifreeze. Or it can be added to new or used antifreeze to improve the heat transfer of ethylene and propylene glycol systems. Designed for modern aluminum, cast iron, copper, brass and bronze systems. Compatible with all antifreezes, including the latest long-life variations.

Diesel Water Wetter®
Same improvements in cooling efficiency as Water Wetter®, but without the rust and corrosion inhibitors. Designed for heavy-duty diesel engines which use more than 33% antifreeze. Cooling System Heat Transfer Agent for Use with Antifreeze / Water Solutions Improves the ability of coolant to wet heat transfer surfaces by 50%. This provides significantly better coolant contact in the cylinder head and can reduce coolant and cylinder head temperature by as much as 10-20°F. This product will not lower the temperature of the cooling system below the thermostat temperature and will be effective when the thermostat is wide open, such as heavy traffic of climbing long grades. This improvement in wetting helps reduce cavitation in liners and water pump.
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sweeks
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:24 pm
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Thanks for the explanation. Can it be mixed or does the coolant needs to be flushed?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:13 pm
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good info

what about the upgradeability of the turbocharger in diesel engines

i was talking to someone the other day and he mentioned that the turbocharger was quite small on his Mitsu L200, only gets ~ 5psi boost

how feasible is this on TD's
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:56 am
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sweeks wrote:
Thanks for the explanation. Can it be mixed or does the coolant needs to be flushed?


I just took that from Red Line's website... check the website - there is a little video on there going into better explanation...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:39 am
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sweeks, can't remember the mileage using the mobil delvac. not using it again though.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:14 am
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venum wrote:
good info

what about the upgradeability of the turbocharger in diesel engines

i was talking to someone the other day and he mentioned that the turbocharger was quite small on his Mitsu L200, only gets ~ 5psi boost

how feasible is this on TD's


Can't say I know anyone who tried.

One consideration is that diesels are already high compression. You'll need to tread carefully with raising boost on a turbo diesel.

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:39 pm
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Equip2Ripp... what are you using now and what kind of mileage are you switching at? Why did you switch?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:24 pm
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that oil was used in a 1KZ-TE prado. reason we switched was because i never bothered to give the firm to put it in, so they used their castrol syntec blend or texaco havoline ursa.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:17 am
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Pickup down for some servicing fellas... using the car right now... Half tank of gas in...3 days! Shocked

That's about $80-$90 right there!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 3:22 pm
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There's a new oil from Castrol: Ultramax TurboGuard. It's a 15W40 engine oil and is said to be for operation under extreme conditions. I'm going to put that in next oil change.

Anyone using it at present?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:50 pm
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At present I let Toyota handle the oil changes, the oil information in this thread will be of use when my warrenty expires (Thanks).

I have a new Hilux 3.0 TD (1kd-ftv) and occasionaly drive a bit racy with Air Con on. Under these conditions I usually get 650km for low $90s. This includes a few quick high rev'd runs at 180km and a few 4x4 H4 adventures. Diesel lasts so long, you can do so much with 1 tank.

I like to fill my tank at curepe and on 2 occasions got over 700km because I don't want to fill up anywhere else and still stay under the $100 mark.

Diesel is so cheap, you can afford to not pinch and still end up with great fuel consumption. If you wish to stretch your fuel you can adjust your driving habits, low rev'd calm shifts and try to get to 5th if possible. Be practical and adjust your speed to suit dont speed up if you know there is a red light or traffic ahead. If you are a fast driver reduce drag items, roof racks, poorly designed bushbars. Road tires help use the power delivered to the wheels better. Don't drive much in 4x4 mode. Use AC sparingly.

I am a Topgear fan and there was an episode in which Jeremy Clarkson had to stretch a tank of diesel on an AUDI on a return trip (don't know the names of the places). He pointed out some nice tips like trying not to break, driving during the day, no heating, speed up on decline let the vehicle climb up the hill itself and this one suprised me (keeping the volume on the radio low). I did a little test myself and found that the sound from my engine changed. Alot of obvious stuff which all add up.

In the first episode of the new TopGear they used, used cooking oil with a non kerosene based solvent to power a diesel vehicle. I was quite surprised, maybe I can work something out with KFC.. The power output was claimed to be the same or even better, our diesel prices are good enough I will not try it but it works.

In your diesel experience, in racing scenarios do you prefer to rev the lower gears and shift hard OR shift easy to 3rd or 4th then push it? I personally love to see gasoline vehicles rev up and get a quick start only to be beaten by a diesel in the long run.

At the end of the day, diesel vehicles are not racers, they are hardworkers.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:16 pm
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bleedingfreak, i've heard that the ultramax is one of the best diesel oils available locally. i'm gonna try that out at the next service. i'm using total quartz now.

Grover, you would only get that mileage as the van as brand new... with wear and tear, mileage would drop.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:21 pm
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Equipped2ripp - That is a given.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__HpspsvRVg <-- something for all you diesel fans
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:06 pm
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The Regular Ultramax is 25W50

this TurboGuard is 15W40 and made esp for turbo Ds
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:29 am
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360 km... 1/3 tank of diesel left.

Laughing Laughing

So anyway, what causes diesels to smoke?

Recently noticed the pickup kicking out black smoke, where it didn't use to before.
Note: Guilty of not adding fuel treatment (Red Line) in a while.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:03 am
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Black smoke = Unburnt fuel afaik.

Clean out your fuel system (doh forget de strainer eh pappy). Ah hope nobody interfere with your fuel pump settings, that could make a huge difference in the smoking department.
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