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323_wagon_dude 3NE2NR Diesel Boyz
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Tech posts: 804 Location: Right here My 2NRide:
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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I remember team loco was doing independent testing of diesel from different stations.
I usually put fuel at the gas station corner tragarete and maraval road. I've had no problems yet... But then again I've only crossed 7200Km this week |
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mrboxman Chronic TriniTuner
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Tech posts: 520 Location: in d toilet My 2NRide:
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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funny thing is we have 2 diesel vehicles and never had any serious problems wrt to diesel quality other than the low cetane content, once the vehicles are serviced regularly and properly no problems
is it just the station that u buy your diesel from?
i buy mine from the corner of la puerta and diego main road
and by peakes
sometimes when in dire need at other gas stations but those are the most frequented by me |
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equipped2ripp 3NE 2NR Power Seller
Joined: 17 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 2634 Location: San Fernando, Trinidad and Tobago My 2NRide: Nissan Frontier
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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~*SiLvA MeRa*~, sounds pretty bad.. i had that problem with water in the filter... but i changed the filter and that corrected it..
do you use any diesel treatments by chance? |
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roadhog 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Tech posts: 241 Location: following the yellow brick road My 2NRide: Triton
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:35 am Post subject: |
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| if yuh boil diesel will the water evaporate? and the diesel remain. or and not cause any fire? |
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equipped2ripp 3NE 2NR Power Seller
Joined: 17 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 2634 Location: San Fernando, Trinidad and Tobago My 2NRide: Nissan Frontier
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:05 am Post subject: |
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| try it and lewwe know nah |
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sweeks 3NE2NR Diesel Boyz
Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Tech posts: 586 Location: Central My 2NRide:
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Silva Mera ... I've been driving hilux for the past 7 years. A 1997 4x2 (2L) and a 2003 4x4 (1kz-te). Can I assume it's a 2005 new model using common rail tech you're driving ? (I can't remember).
During that 7 years I've never seen my fuel light common on, never had to bleed the fuel filter nor have gone under 1/4 tank more that 5 times. I've also been using sakura oil and fuel filter. (I recently upgraded my air filter to an original toyota and have been getting improved mileage but that's another story)
I think draining the fuel tank is extreme and somewhat impractical. I'm honestly think you need a more professional opinion and that if it's a common rail engine, the system is very very sensitive. You're right....NP isn't going to do anything and if they're do, do you believe their actions can be enforced at the gas stations?
My recommendations are
1. Never go less than 1/4 tank
2. Watch where you full up. The guys here would tell you they're picky when it comes to gas stations.
3. If you are ever going to full up at a gas station and see those NP trucks distributing diesel at the gas station, check back after at least 2 hours.
4. If you're up to trying fuel treatments, try them in very minute amounts.
Good luck. |
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sweeks 3NE2NR Diesel Boyz
Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Tech posts: 586 Location: Central My 2NRide:
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| 323_Wagon and other common rail owner ....please take note of my previous post |
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equipped2ripp 3NE 2NR Power Seller
Joined: 17 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 2634 Location: San Fernando, Trinidad and Tobago My 2NRide: Nissan Frontier
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| sweeks, yeah same with my 1KZ-TE in the prado.. never gave problems |
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wagon r 3NE2NR Diesel Boyz
Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Tech posts: 6764 Location: ......Roundin up the Mafia in "D Lone Ranger"..... My 2NRide:
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| i never had any issues and i run my tank down more than once.....but i also watch where i fill up. |
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SNIPER 3000 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 18 Feb 2007 Tech posts: 221
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| SNIPER 3000 wrote: | | Guys i notice my car smoking greyish blackish when i changing gears usually from 2nd to 3rd or when ah going up hills.what to do for that or is it normal? |
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323_wagon_dude 3NE2NR Diesel Boyz
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Tech posts: 804 Location: Right here My 2NRide:
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:59 am Post subject: |
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| sweeks wrote: |
My recommendations are
1. Never go less than 1/4 tank
2. Watch where you full up. The guys here would tell you they're picky when it comes to gas stations.
3. If you are ever going to full up at a gas station and see those NP trucks distributing diesel at the gas station, check back after at least 2 hours.
4. If you're up to trying fuel treatments, try them in very minute amounts.
Good luck. |
Agreed.
With the onset of the rainy season I try not to let the fuel drop below 1/2 tank. You never know when there might be a flood or gas shortage scare.
I think we should create our own list "approved" gas stations so we can refuel and not have to worry about the consequences.
I'm doing some more research into the common rail and treatments scenario. Thus far, I'm being cautious and have decided not to experiment with my hilux. I'll probably ask toyota for their stance on this issue (although i'm guessing they wont have an official one). |
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Greypatch 3NE 2NR Moderator
Joined: 22 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 24280 Location: T&T My 2NRide:
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| ~*SiLvA MeRa*~ wrote: | Anyone having problems with water in their diesel, over the weekend i filled up the hilux and soon after the fuel low light began flasing, the new hilux owners will know that when this happens you need to bleed the fuel pump because water has accumulated there, well i let the water drain out and primed back up the pump, when i checked the dam,n light still on , only now it stop blinking and on full time...
well monday morning bright and early, i reach down toyota buy new fuel filter, air filter , oil filter and oil, (the van was due for its 30,000k service so i decided to do everything on time, took it to my mechanic, changed all filters and oil, i say problem should be fixed with that, well i cuss when i switch on and the light still watching meh, i head back toyota and spoke to a service rep who said that they have had alot of cases where customers are complaining about this problem, he said the only fix was to pull down the tank and drain it... .......i dropped it off this morning and the estimated cost is about $600.00 plus the filters and oil and labout from Monday in total about $1500.00....
The rep i spoke to this morning said they have prepared a report and sent it to NP complaining about the crappy diesel we are getting...i don't have much faith that NP will do anything about this, so do i have to put aside money every few months to pull down my tank and drain it?
so anyone having this problem, and is there anything i can do to minimise or avoid this in the future? |
I had to pull down my tank twice in 3 weeks.
solution buy fuel from only 1 station u trust man. |
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Greypatch 3NE 2NR Moderator
Joined: 22 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 24280 Location: T&T My 2NRide:
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:05 am Post subject: |
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1. Never go less than 1/4 tank
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myth....the fuel line goes right down to the bottom of the tank (where the water is)
and once there is water it will remain in the bottom of the tank less mixing for shake up...till it ends up in thr filter..if there is a lot u will have to drain it.
savvy |
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Greypatch 3NE 2NR Moderator
Joined: 22 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 24280 Location: T&T My 2NRide:
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| wagon r wrote: | | we did for the last one.....and limed for about 1/2 hour, don't see why we won't do it again. |
date time and location mamoo |
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roadhog 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Tech posts: 241 Location: following the yellow brick road My 2NRide: Triton
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~*SiLvA MeRa*~ TriniTuner WHOoRE
Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Tech posts: 1458 Location: at the bar...seriously My 2NRide:
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:58 am Post subject: |
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hey guys, yep its a new model hilux, and yes i did use a fuel treatment about 1 month ago.
When i changed the fuel filter on monday the mech suggested i put another treatment into the fuel pump with the new filter, i think it was the result of buying some bad diesel, this has happened about twice before but it was always corrected when i drained the pump, this time it seemed like there was just too much water, i think i will stick to the quick shops from now on. the thing is i hardly ever let the tank drop below half....but i am in the curepe area and i really hate to go to the quick shop in the junction, are there any other stations in the area with new tanks and pumps, the one where i usually fill up is by KFC valsayn, they have new pumps but i think the tanks are still old.
Toyota called to say the van is ready, they pulled down the tank and drained the "sediment" something, anyways bill is about $700.00, when i get down there this evening i 'll get some more details.
from what i gather, these new vehicles with the common rail are veeerry sensitive to water, we have other older diesel vehicles and them thing running on any ole diesel yuh thown in.............  |
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~*SiLvA MeRa*~ TriniTuner WHOoRE
Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Tech posts: 1458 Location: at the bar...seriously My 2NRide:
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| SNIPER 3000 wrote: | | SNIPER 3000 wrote: | | Guys i notice my car smoking greyish blackish when i changing gears usually from 2nd to 3rd or when ah going up hills.what to do for that or is it normal? |
Cool don't mine the new guy  |
somebody answer the man nah...  |
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wagon r 3NE2NR Diesel Boyz
Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Tech posts: 6764 Location: ......Roundin up the Mafia in "D Lone Ranger"..... My 2NRide:
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| answer who...??? |
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Greypatch 3NE 2NR Moderator
Joined: 22 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 24280 Location: T&T My 2NRide:
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:06 am Post subject: |
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| people how does one chk & service their turbo and intercooler ? |
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SNIPER 3000 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| wagon r wrote: | | answer who...??? |
ANSWER ME BOY......ME ................I feel i droping out of this thread yes  |
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