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The Diesel Boys Maintenance Thread *4x4/4x2*
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roadhog
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:13 am
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oh btw any one might be interested in a roof rack? like what all the vigos and tritons driving around with? let me know i have one sitting down here
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SNIPER 3000
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:32 am
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Fellas help meh out here nah, it's about driving gears... where is the "kick down" on this thing is.....today i was overtaking i was on 4th gear and driving about 30-40km so i tryed to over take but it was not as fast a an automatic...i was not expecting that almost run into a truck Shocked , how you all does do it on what gear ?
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roadhog
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:52 am
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^^ gear down buddy go back into third and mash out.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:56 am
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or at that speed maybe in to second. but try third.
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SNIPER 3000
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:33 am
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roadhog wrote:
^^ gear down buddy go back into third and mash out.

But in gearing down will that damage the belts? the timming belt that is. Cus when i gear down the car jerks back and sounds like some thing is wrong...or is that normal?
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KiD
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:17 pm
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^^ hmm sounds like you need some experience driving a manual. its normal but you need to have ur foot on the gas or else it will jerk back. you may need someone to show you. basically an automatic does the same thing it gears down and applies the gas whenever you mash down. in a manual you control everything manually.
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sweeks
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 1:03 pm
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Sniper with regards to gearing down and gearing up refer to your manual for max speeds for the various gears. If you're doing 70km/h and you gear down from 3 to 2nd and the max speed for 2nd gear is 60 km/h, the vehicle will jerk, the rpm will run up and in extreme cases you run the risk of locking up the 'drive' wheels.

If you don't have a manual, then you need to feel out the gears and at what speed they work best.

As Kid says it comes with experience... it took me a while before I got the gearing right....because the gearbox and ratios was different to my previous 4x2 lux. I listen to my engine when I'm gearing up or down, and usually glimpse at my RPMs.

Practise gearing up and down at various speeds for the different gears. But please note that your gear box is use to control the gears and not used for extreme slowing down. Brakes pad are cheaper than a gearbox and clutch parts.
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equipped2ripp
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 1:22 pm
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sweeks, dem n00bs Laughing
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bleedingfreak
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 2:37 pm
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I feel I staying out of this one yes Laughing Laughing
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323_wagon_dude
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 3:04 pm
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SNIPER 3000 wrote:
i was on 4th gear and driving about 30-40km


You also have to remember driving too slow for a particular gear will put more pressure on the engine as well. 30-40 Km/h should be in the 2nd gear range for most vehicles.

Sweeks wrote:
If you're doing 70km/h and you gear down from 3 to 2nd and the max speed for 2nd gear is 60 km/h, the vehicle will jerk, the rpm will run up and in extreme cases you run the risk of locking up the 'drive' wheels.


It pretty much the same principle but on the slow side.

Picture trying to start riding a 10speed bi-cycle in 10th gear.... Your legs will be paining for weeks.

Feel out the gears...look at the RPMS.... and listen to the engine.
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 3:28 pm
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The following should help:
http://www.2pass.co.uk/gears.htm

and:

http://www.2pass.co.uk/gearsinuse.htm

Enjoy Smile
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equipped2ripp
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 3:45 pm
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nah he'll learn in time
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wagon r
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 4:10 pm
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^allyuh real evil oui.......you and yuh pardna on top yuh there..... Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:26 pm
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wagon r wrote:
^allyuh real evil oui.......you and yuh pardna on top yuh there..... Laughing


Yeah boyyy... Laughing Laughing Laughing One is ah more instigator tho.... I wonder who... GIGGLESSssss Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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equipped2ripp
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:03 pm
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nah i tell allyuh de man would learn..

when i had now got my frontier, i took awhile (abt a 2wks or so) to learn the gears... when to downshift without chirping tires etc.

the only way to learn it is with experience. practice won't make perfect, but it'll make you better.
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RNR66
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:36 pm
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Another thing - I notice quite a few drivers ( of pick ups) pull off in 2nd gear many times hardly ever using 1st gear except when carrying heavy loads maybe.

This can't be good for your clutch disc/ pressure plate etc, can it?
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equipped2ripp
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:25 am
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RNR66, i do it when downhill or at a decline

but yeah on a flat surface, it MAY put some strain on the engine
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:31 am
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^ well i could understand downhill or approaching moving traffic but from a start is "bun" clutch yuh lookin for.....

....i'll use first just to get the van rollin....
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 11:14 am
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I've seen people do it a few times. They said the first gear is too short... as they pull of they have to change gear so they just pull of in second instead

The hilux owner's manual explicitly says not to do this. Confused
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sweeks
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:19 pm
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Fellas... quick note here... I'm out of office next week travelling... once I get internet access I'll touch base.

Take it easy... be good and be safe.

Sweeks out.
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