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Squeaky Energy Suspension Polyurethane Bushings ?
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kevo
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:32 am
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So I decided to go with the energy suspension polyurethane bushing kit.
Thus far i have installed the complete front set at a certified mechanic (his bearing press broke down - so i waiting for him to fix it to install the rear bushings).

But now - everytime i drive over a road wave or depression i getting this God awful sqeaking (in the front only!) - especially horrid over humps !

I believe the main culprit to be the tension rod bushings rubbing on the chasis -

Has anyone had this experience with these bushings - and how did you stop the sqeaking ? - please help !
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Knight1
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:39 am
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Are you sure you applied enough grease on the bushings prior to installation?

Kits like those from Energy Suspension come with their own "grease" to be used as part of installation.

However, from my experience with this, the two tiny tubes looked to be far from enough....so my mech. used some extra (not sure what). And I've never gotten squeaking.

Also, I've heard of cases where folks had squeaking 'cuz they didn't use enough grease....

....so maybe it's worth looking at?
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frontier
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:48 pm
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is it the red bushings? if so i have the same set on my ek3 and they squeak like hell, what i do i spray them once a week with WYNN'S silicone spray and that stops the squeaking. After a few months the squeaking should stop but still keeping spraying them atleast once a month.
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kevo
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:09 pm
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I have the black energy suspension bushings ( i was told they are the same as the red) - thanks for the advice fellas - i will try the silicone spray ! Very Happy
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BlueIce
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:35 pm
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i have the same problem.

I did research b4 i installed my kit , made sure and used plenty grease! even bought extra!!!

its been 2 months now and i hear a slight squeak every now and again i go over a hump but nothing to complain about
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crash dummy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:48 pm
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the red and the black are the same... i get a little squeak every now and then at the back but nothing too loud..
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trinidrift
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:58 pm
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try bel ray axle grease.cuz i got the red and d crazy ass i got for a mechanic used dat wen he was pressing it in

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X_Factor
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:08 pm
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the whole front of my car is Energy and i just put on alot of grease during installation and its been about 8mths now no squeaks, if u using grease there is a belray waterproof grease i believe, but dont quote me on that
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Anil_Sooknanan
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:47 pm
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whats the price on those bushings? the black ones and the yellow ones Very Happy
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yakuza
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:13 pm
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The red one squeaks more than the black ones, have the black ones on my car, only squeaks when goin up a driveway, some silicon spray periodically fixes that though.
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BlueIce
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:15 am
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I read on energy suspension's website that the black ones have more natural oil in them over the red. Other than that the red and black are identical.
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yakuza
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:24 am
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Hence the black ones squeak less.
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BlueIce
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:29 am
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yup!

i dont mind the lil squeak here and there.......the full kit on my car feels 10000000000 times better than what was there before.
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X_Factor
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:46 am
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any of u all know of any products to stiffen up the rear of a b14?

and the cost of original rubber bushings (motorist/nissan) cost almost the same for Energy suspension stuff

i remembered i changed end links like 2 times in 3 mths, the energy set thats on right now goin about 5mths strong
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kevo
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:37 pm
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the real thing is to replace the the OEM control arms and links with the pillow ball jointed aftermarket arms (ikeya formula, cusco etc.) these usually allow you to adjust camber, toe and caster. They can however be very expensive! - especially if you want a full kit !!!

Stiffens the hell out of your ride tho !!!
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D_bodyguard
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:24 pm
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well meh link rubbers always use to squeak and shame meh like if something breaking out ..........i gone and change the rubbers and put two nuts insted of 1 because the 1 use to always run slack so put a backing nut if that is iT !!!!
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X_Factor
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:21 pm
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^^ get lock nuts!!
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Picasso
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:28 pm
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I got the red lower sway bar bushings and the red Cradle arm bushing set and I have never heard any kind of squeak. The last time they were greased was the same time I installed them and that's like a year now. But what I do know is there is a company manufacturing the same bushings and they are not energy suspension bushings yet the package states " Energy Suspension " on it. * Hint is each bushing kit packaged is supposed to carry a specific code that matches with the numbers on the bushings in the package you got. If it is not seen there then you know what you got. I was told this by some one at Energy Suspension when I called them enquiring on the kits they had a year ago. Neutral
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:29 am
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i have the rear trailing arm bushings installed......they only squeak when i go over a speed bump.......other then that they work good.......but they do transfer more vibration into the car, and some extra road noise.

massey wanted me to buy the entire rear axel just to get the bushings....for about $5000, got the bushings for about $500
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Turbo
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:32 am
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Shocked swear nah, i was contemplating on ordering a master kit for my A31 buh now i hear bout this i kno 2 apply plenty grease, tanx fella's - GOOD INFO here


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