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Soundstream BX-10 Bass Machine or Audiocontrol Epicenter
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3stagevtec
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:02 pm
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I wish i had tried the maxx bass and the epicenter also. I would have loved to hear what the epi would have sounded like when compaired with the BX-10 (since they are supposed to be almost the same). To hear all three units on the same system would really help in telling which one is the best.
I would highly recommend that you try before you buy any of these products... Yeah, i know most places wont allow that, so look for a friend or someone who has it and borrow it for a while. With these products, it's either 'like it' or 'hate it' in my opinion...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:16 pm
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SR wrote:
depends if you are into soudn quality i would go witht he maxxbass
once set up correclty it will make your doors sound like they have subs in them


How would the Maxx Bass (1st time hearing of this product) sound playing music with a normally bass and then playing with music with a low bass line. How much does it cost also...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:41 pm
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ROVIN : i wont say that the epi is the best. In my opinion it makes the most noticeable difference as compared to the maxx bass, i never used the soundstream so i cant say as compared to that. It really is a matter of preference so you will have to try it yourself.

3 stage: the maxx bass works well on all different types of bass lines it is not limited like the epi. Directed no longer makes the maxx bass but i believe it sold for around $1000 with the bass remote.I would reccommend the maxx bass for your front stage but as far as using it for subs i think you can get better performance from a bass cube. However i think there is another company producing the maxx bass. Ask SR he should know.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:14 pm
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waves technologies makes the maxxbass
at first they made the chip alone and sole 2000 chips to directed electronics however waves has discontinued sales of the chips to outside manufacturers and are marketing the unit themselves
the chipset is used in a lot of studio recording equipment and some pc based sound recording equipment as well

biggest difference will be heard on a stock system
i had the opportunity to listen to waves demo vehicle at spring break last year

the unit makes more difference on the front stage than with subs however the sub sounded a lot more defined
the demo vehicle had an 8" a 10" and a 12" in sealed enclosures and the subs really did sound like more than 1
a better comaprison i would use is that an 8" sounded like a 10 a 10 sounded like a 12 and a 12 sounded like a 15 all withou the increase in excusion of the speaker or the need for more power to run the sub

when used on the front doors the "upfront" bass had a better impact than without it
again i would recomend the unit for anyone who is in to sound q and require the up front bass impact
personally for the sub in a sound q vehicle you can get away without investing in the unit as a good sub in a sealed enclosure would do the trick
as for those looking for the boom and gallary style bassline
the epi may be the better bet however a proper designed box with enough power to paly the subs will be best as these units ae all designed to improve the sound where there is a poor design or limited space
with experimenting with the epi my own experience is that it worked best when the sub enclosure was a bit smaller than what was recomended for the sub
but if you know how instruments and music is suppose to sound a lot of times the low bas ntoes sounded a bit "grumbly" and sounds as if the voice coil is rubbing slightly
however if you stand away from the vehicle the bas sounds fine and actualy gives a nice throw
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:33 pm
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Nice info there SR ! ^^^ ......... #Fade in
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:04 pm
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hey fellas,i got the soundstream bx10 with 2 cervin vega 15 in subs,no eq a 2000 watt mono amp in a toyota aristo tt. right now this thing shakes everything.i can drive pass shops and watch their glass wobble.only problem i had was it caused the cells in the battery to burn up,solved that thou a 2.0 farad cap
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:20 pm
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bump for someone...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:16 pm
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.. deck - bx10 - crossover - 3amps - speakers


??

ok i`m confused now !!!!

im seein ppl settin up bass processors like this

DECK>bass pro.>Bass AMP>Sub


this one says like this:

deck - bx10 - crossover - 3amps - speakers


from SS site
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:33 pm
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the audiocontrol recommends this as well

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deck - processor - crossover - 3amps - speakers


check the link i sent you...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:34 pm
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yeh i checked it..

now i`m really confused..no lie!!

the demo i got on one featured it the way i mentioned above..and it sound REAL nice !!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:44 pm
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now you making me feel to buy one... Evil or Very Mad

see pm... Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:47 pm
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lol boy i honestly confused bad bad
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:37 pm
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Dude that soundstream bx10 sucks. had it hated it bought the bx12 hated it and finally got the epi. The epi blows the soundstream away. Cause if you live in NY you'll know we live and die for our lowwssssssssss and the epi hits the spot.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:00 pm
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also i heard for the epi or bx-10....make sure is not no "small" wattage sub you using...it could blow ur subs

Not at ALL TRUE. Had an epi with a JL W1v2 150rms spkr with a small 2ch fultron bridged @ about 130-150rms and it was just amazing.

Bounty killa -no,no,no-One ah The best epi song.
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When using the epi try to tune the box ah little lower than 30hz... about 28 or so.
And i used mine deck>actively crossed > epi> then amp. Although this is not recommended it worked A OK for me. And the gain control was fully active...meaning that if @ 0 i was getting normal response from bass and i turn to suit.
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Dude that soundstream bx10 sucks. had it hated it bought the bx12 hated it and finally got the epi. The epi blows the soundstream away. Cause if you live in NY you'll know we live and die for our lowwssssssssss and the epi hits the spot.


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When using the epi try to tune the box ah little lower than 30hz... about 28 or so.
And i used mine deck>actively crossed > epi> then amp. Although this is not recommended it worked A OK for me. And the gain control was fully active...meaning that if @ 0 i was getting normal response from bass and i turn to suit.


nice info...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:40 pm
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under all discussion they jed...........is pioneer yuh using it on............. good luck there Shocked.
tried the epi on 2 306...... lasted no longer that d red house fire Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:40 am
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Then, it sounds as though there is NO mid-bass... and during one song, i wasn't hearing any bass at all!! I dont know why. Maybe i adjusted it wrong or something but certain ranges (mid-bass) were completely missing. Did anyone else experience this???

Now, this thing really makes your system thump!!! I had the volume at 1/3 of what i usually play my system and i can max out the subs! The bass it produces is EXTREMELY LOW and really sounds great, that i liked.

The Low bass it produces is really awsome BUT the lack of certain mid-bass frequencies really puts it back in my book. If rediculously excursion, ground pounding, car alarm tripping bass is your style, then this is your product...
ReneR


with respect to the lack of mid bass, around what freqs you talking bout? 50 hz & thing?

now I kno I goin & star some commotion here eh, but in my case I using my hu to power my mids, I hav the bass turned down & loud feat off so I can raise the vol up high without damaging the mids. my question is: if I was to install some coaxials & power dem from my hu, i will get the mid bass right? so I can install one of these bass processors for the shake from my subs & still get my mid bass?

around what freq does this bass processor give you your bass @?
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I understand these processors hav a high line drive also? like around what output voltage so?

& sionce when nippon america making epicenters? Shocked

heard a lil sample frm a white civic dwon on my side, the guys tell me: jus a lil turn on the epi & the thing begins to shake. man using a 450 rms amp on a premier 3000 spl....
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with respect to the lack of mid bass, around what freqs you talking bout? 50 hz & thing?

now I kno I goin & star some commotion here eh, but in my case I using my hu to power my mids, I hav the bass turned down & loud feat off so I can raise the vol up high without damaging the mids. my question is: if I was to install some coaxials & power dem from my hu, i will get the mid bass right? so I can install one of these bass processors for the shake from my subs & still get my mid bass?

around what freq does this bass processor give you your bass @?


for me it was deck - bx10 - crossover - 3amps - speakers

crossover point from bass to mids was around 150Hz

when i installed it, i found bass in the region of about 80Hz - 150Hz disappeared.. that's as best as i could remember / explain.. i'm not sure if i was personally at fault for the way it sounded, or that was just the way it worked..

i would recommend the epicenter from audiocontrol as i've heard that works much better..

what sub / amp you have?

i don't think those processors have a line drive in them (could be wrong).. they are just capable of receiving and passing a high voltage RCA signal through them..
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