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dredman1
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 Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:28 pm
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I got this product recently as I've read some good things about it. 2 questions on it:
(1) I was of the impression that you add an entire bottle to the cooling system. However, the instructions on the bottle say to use 3-4 ounces (capfuls) per quart of coolant. My car's cooling system takes approx. 3.5 quarts to fill, so that would mean about 15 capfuls of WW I need to add to my coolant. Seems like a miniscule amount, but I dunno how concentrated it is. Do I follow these instructions on the bottle, or just go ahead and add whole bottle?
(2) I've had a few people tell me that the Redline WW darkens the colour of your coolant after using it for some time. Some even say it turned the coolant black  (I'm assuming the colour of their coolant was originally dark blue or some other dark colour). Is this true, and if so is this ok?
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X_Factor
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:37 pm
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i used about 3/4 of the bottle of it and distilled water to full up my rad
the only thing is that it smells funny when it gets on ur skin!! |
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crossdrilled
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:26 pm
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| X_Factor wrote: | i used about 3/4 of the bottle of it and distilled water to full up my rad
the only thing is that it smells funny when it gets on ur skin!! |
And I keep telling people that the instructions say to use it WITH coolant for non race applications. |
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biggy82
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:33 pm
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crossdrilled is right....WW only lowers the surface tension of the water, allowing it to be able to absorb more heat, hence lowering engine temps. it DOES NOT have the anti-corrosion and anti-scalant additives that regular coolant has. thats why you need to use coolant as well in the rad
dredman1, (1) add the recommended dosage (2) yes, it is dark, but it should not turn the rad water black. if it does this, it may not be compatible with the coolant used. in which case, drain and flush rad and re-add WW with different coolant |
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crossdrilled
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:51 pm
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| Also, the reason that it is recommended for racing using it straight is that gycol based coolants cannot be used for racing applications depending on the course. I think it is harder to clean up glycol coolant. |
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dredman1
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:08 pm
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dredman1, (1) add the recommended dosage |
Cool, thanks. That means 1 bottle can treat about 3 cars for me 
And I also read that WW and water alone is for racing only, so I am using glycoshell with it. |
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*KRONIK*
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:10 pm
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so wat wrong wid using coolant alone??
or does the water wetter actually make a big difference in cooling?? |
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booge
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:29 pm
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| I have used water wetter in my det and it has caused a siginificant drop in water temperature, so i can say it works for me. Howeer, i use it straight with distilled water |
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THE SYNDICATE
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:31 am
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or does the water wetter actually make a big difference in cooling??
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it makes a difference bro.........
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i used about 3/4 of the bottle of it and distilled water to full up my rad
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i use the entire bottle with distilled water  and that works for me!
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And I keep telling people that the instructions say to use it WITH coolant for non race applications.
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well i guess bro it's up to the person who using it to take heed of the instructions....  |
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crossdrilled
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:38 am
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| *KRONIK* wrote: | so wat wrong wid using coolant alone??
or does the water wetter actually make a big difference in cooling?? |
Yes. |
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Tired Accord
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:37 pm
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dredman1 - where did you get that Water Wetter to buy?
Anyone else had experience with the Royal Purple coolant additive (I cyah remember the name right now) ?? |
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dmitc
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:16 pm
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| *KRONIK* wrote: | so wat wrong wid using coolant alone??
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my engine operates at NOT with coolant alone so i'm not seeing any advantage in using WW.
even if it lowers the water temp the thermostat would just stay close till the temp reaches high enough to open it??
Can someone sell me on this product? |
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*KRONIK*
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:15 pm
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| dmitc wrote: | | *KRONIK* wrote: | so wat wrong wid using coolant alone??
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my engine operates at NOT with coolant alone so i'm not seeing any advantage in using WW.
even if it lowers the water temp the thermostat would just stay close till the temp reaches high enough to open it??
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daz the same ting i thinkin
i tink ill try a bottle wen i changing my coolant....
just to see the actual effects |
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crossdrilled
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:00 am
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| *KRONIK* wrote: | | dmitc wrote: | | *KRONIK* wrote: | so wat wrong wid using coolant alone??
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my engine operates at NOT with coolant alone so i'm not seeing any advantage in using WW.
even if it lowers the water temp the thermostat would just stay close till the temp reaches high enough to open it??
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daz the same ting i thinkin
i tink ill try a bottle wen i changing my coolant....
just to see the actual effects |
Water wetter has properties that your coolant lacks:
1) It is has a surfactant action, to make the water stick to the walls of the radiator/ engine better, and improve cooling
2) It lubricates your pump
3) It fights cavitation by decreasing the vapor pressure of the mixture. This increases pump life and improves the function of the cooling system at higher rpm's and prevents foaming.
Kamraj and sons in debe selling it, as well as the entire line off redline products, except the oils I think. |
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dredman1
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:41 pm
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| Tired Accord wrote: | dredman1 - where did you get that Water Wetter to buy?
Anyone else had experience with the Royal Purple coolant additive (I cyah remember the name right now) ?? |
Got it at Car Boutique in St. James for $60 i think. Saw someone on 2NR selling the Royal Purple Ice, and someone else selling a similar product from DEI called Radiator Relief (W2J I believe).
Do a search here for these products. |
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Knight1
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:38 pm
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| Quote: | | (2) I've had a few people tell me that the Redline WW darkens the colour of your coolant after using it for some time. Some even say it turned the coolant black (I'm assuming the colour of their coolant was originally dark blue or some other dark colour). Is this true, and if so is this ok? |
Nonsense. Been using Water Wetter for a while now with no complaints.
| Quote: | even if it lowers the water temp the thermostat would just stay close till the temp reaches high enough to open it??
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Just by a few degrees if so much. HOnestly, I don't think the difference is as big as people make it out to be....esp. considering that most people who DO say they got a BIGGGGG difference don't even have a "Non-OEM" water temp. gauge (i.e. with numbers)   |
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*KRONIK*
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:11 am
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| Quote: | even if it lowers the water temp the thermostat would just stay close till the temp reaches high enough to open it??
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Just by a few degrees if so much. HOnestly, I don't think the difference is as big as people make it out to be....esp. considering that most people who DO say they got a BIGGGGG difference don't even have a "Non-OEM" water temp. gauge (i.e. with numbers) |
i was tinkin along these lines
and assuming ppl was using some kinda b4 and after metering to make these assumptions |
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dmitc
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:50 am
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| crossdrilled wrote: | | *KRONIK* wrote: | | dmitc wrote: | | *KRONIK* wrote: | so wat wrong wid using coolant alone??
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my engine operates at NOT with coolant alone so i'm not seeing any advantage in using WW.
even if it lowers the water temp the thermostat would just stay close till the temp reaches high enough to open it??
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daz the same ting i thinkin
i tink ill try a bottle wen i changing my coolant....
just to see the actual effects |
Water wetter has properties that your coolant lacks:
1) It is has a surfactant action, to make the water stick to the walls of the radiator/ engine better, and improve cooling
2) It lubricates your pump
3) It fights cavitation by decreasing the vapor pressure of the mixture. This increases pump life and improves the function of the cooling system at higher rpm's and prevents foaming.
Kamraj and sons in debe selling it, as well as the entire line off redline products, except the oils I think. |
you had me at "It lubricates your pump" |
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Knight1
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:22 am
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| Quote: | i was tinkin along these lines
and assuming ppl was using some kinda b4 and after metering to make these assumptions |
Well I datalogged my car both without and with Redline water wetter over a few days.
Doesn't make as much difference in my car as some people claim with theirs...possibly a 1-2 deg difference in traffic but that's about it. WOT temps were about the same. It's good...but it's not some kidna revolutionary "Must have".
The way some people are bent on keeping their engine "cooler", you'd think they were minutes away from chucking in an A/C inside their intake. 
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mitsu
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:20 pm
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2) I've had a few people tell me that the Redline WW darkens the colour of your coolant after using it for some time. Some even say it turned the coolant black (I'm assuming the colour of their coolant was originally dark blue or some other dark colour). Is this true, and if so is this ok?
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Written in the back on the bottle it says "change annually"
I have been using water wetter over 4 years ,after a year of use the coolant gets oily .
I use it with only watter,no problems
You dont need to mix it with coolant |
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