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ahfella Street 2NR
Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Tech posts: 32
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject: Question for the box builders |
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Question for all experienced and professional box builders.
I currently got one rf p2 12 (see pic).The box was made so that it fits in the "narrow" section of the trunk(civic) so that the "wider" part can be used to put "my sh!t".
I am thinking of putting another 12. For the two 12s to sound exceptional could the box be similar to the one I currently have, where it fits in the narrow section of the trunk?
Thanks.
PS. not flash band you're seeing there that's Second Skin took me and pops hours to do..lol |
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noyztoyz 3NE 2NR Power Seller
Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Tech posts: 382 Location: all over My 2NRide:
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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nah,
you need box volume do get that bass slamming, it will need to be bigger? |
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(...Rovin...) 3NE 2NR Power Seller
Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Tech posts: 3653 Location: Chaguanas My 2NRide:
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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if u simply doubling up on subs then obviously d amt of space occupied will be doubled as well
what u can do instead of using 2 subs is use a single sub which is a higher series like P3 or T1 ... |
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kurpal_v2 Riding on 16's
Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Tech posts: 1146 Location: shaking down my bhaji tin My 2NRide:
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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ahfella Street 2NR
Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Tech posts: 32
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Slot ported.
how much space it will take Rovin? |
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kurpal_v2 Riding on 16's
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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No I'm suggesting with a sealed enclosure you could fit another 12 and still supply enough space for your sheit.
It won't be as loud as 2-12's ported but it'll be louder and a little more accurate than 1-12 ported.
Just saying na. |
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X_Factor 30 pounds of Boost
Joined: 27 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 2535 Location: St. Augustine My 2NRide: NISSAN SENTRA b14
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, as the guys said
1 higher series 12"
2 in a sealed box
or 2 in a ported box twice the size of the present |
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ChristianRD Sweet on this forum
Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Tech posts: 344
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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| kurpal_v2 wrote: | No I'm suggesting with a sealed enclosure you could fit another 12 and still supply enough space for your sheit.
It won't be as loud as 2-12's ported but it'll be louder and a little more accurate than 1-12 ported.
Just saying na. |
People underestimate the output of a well built sealed enclosure. |
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Firewall Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| X_Factor wrote: | yeah, as the guys said
1 higher series 12"
2 in a sealed box
or 2 in a ported box twice the size of the present |
however, the cons of that are:
1) higher series sub - bigger amp (and maybe upgrade electrical)
2) sealed box - basically the same output as 1 ported
(however, the bassline will be more accurate and more musically pleasing)
3) twice the size - no more room for your stuff.
if you want to list out the specs of your system like the amp that you are using then that would be great. also the volume of the box (dimensions) and also the shape (if it follows the slant at the back of the seat). depending on the car and box design this can increase the box volume by as much as .75 cubic sometimes.
if that box is not slanted i'd say that you can fit the 2 in a common chamber with the resulting box being visually 1/2 as big (when ALL dimensions are adjusted) |
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3stagevtec punchin NOS
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Tech posts: 4477 Location: killing two stones with one bird... My 2NRide: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:40 am Post subject: |
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| I had a similar setup before, a single RF P2 in a narrow box for my Civic.. bass was barely adequate for my needs. i would definitely go for the single high powered sub option, you will get the performance you are looking for, as well as keep the size AND weight of your enclosure down.. |
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southside connections Shifting into 6th
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:15 am Post subject: |
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| there is a way to get the performance of the one sub, but you will not have a trunk |
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Chiney punchin NOS
Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Tech posts: 3013 Location: Maracas,St.Joseph My 2NRide: Nissan Wingroad
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:29 am Post subject: |
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^^ doe even go there! LOL
but yeh..agree with 3stage there
bigger higher end 12" and u orn |
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Firewall Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| 3stagevtec wrote: | | I had a similar setup before, a single RF P2 in a narrow box for my Civic.. bass was barely adequate for my needs. |
eh heh? but we ALL know what it takes to "fulfill" YOUR needs....
cough......*double 15*......cough
anyway, as they saying, ONCE your amp is capable go for a "higher rated" single 12" (will save on space weight and gas)
you have many options just to decide which to choose from[/b] |
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(...Rovin...) 3NE 2NR Power Seller
Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Tech posts: 3653 Location: Chaguanas My 2NRide:
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:59 am Post subject: |
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basically everybody telling u d same thing i saying : use a more powerful single sub
i have typed this a few times b4 : i replaced 4 10" pioneers with a single 12" dd9500 in my car back in 2007 , how do i know its about d same loudness ? ; had it metered which proved it
if u want my opinion - replace it with a 12" alpine type R - imo is better than a RF P3 ... |
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nello-sello 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Tech posts: 143 Location: East My 2NRide:
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:27 am Post subject: |
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would two 10" in a ported box fit the space and give the increased performance he is looking for?
I heard Rovin's two 10" re se (sealed) and they were louder and more accurate than my one 12" RF P3 ported
His box was bigger though.
I imagine with two Type Rs sealed or even ported though you may be able to save space and get the output you want |
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(...Rovin...) 3NE 2NR Power Seller
Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Tech posts: 3653 Location: Chaguanas My 2NRide:
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:03 am Post subject: |
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maybe d long shape ^ made it appear bigger but it shud be about about d same amt of space occupied
iirc d theory : ported over seal yield about double output\"loudness" so if u use 2 of d same subs in sealed ur going to be using double power but it will sound to ur ears about d same loudness
however sealed boxes have a more smoother overall response so it all depends on what u want & how much power u want to use ... |
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SmokeyGTi I LUV THIS PLACE
Joined: 22 May 2006 Tech posts: 935 Location: Trinidad My 2NRide:
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:44 am Post subject: |
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actually I have my type-r in a sealed box first before building the ported enclosure. whatever you couldn't hear you sure felt!
nothing wrong with him using two woofers in a sealed enclosure. |
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Sully Trying to catch PATCH AND VEGA
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| Firewall wrote: |
however, the cons of that are:
1) higher series sub - bigger amp (and maybe upgrade electrical)
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One quick question. If you plan on getting an additional sub, how did you plan to power it with out upgrading the amplification to your bassline? |
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ahfella Street 2NR
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:34 am Post subject: |
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My amp is a RF Punch 500.1bd with the specs:
200W x 1 @ 4-Ohms RMS
400W x 1 @ 2-Ohms RMS
500W x 1 @ 1-Ohm RMS
100A fuse rating
Can this push a RF P3 12 or a Alpine Type R? |
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(...Rovin...) 3NE 2NR Power Seller
Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Tech posts: 3653 Location: Chaguanas My 2NRide:
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| go with a 12" d2 type R - i prefer it over d P3 .... |
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