problem in Lancer GT? solved

Rory Phoulorie · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:17 am Post subject:

Write the Consumer Affairs Division (CAD) outlining your complaint, especially with Diamond Motors (DM) withholding the service history of the car from you, and copy it to DM's General Manager. Whatever paperwork you have supporting your complaint, provide it to CAD.

CAD WILL get involved.

TechArt · Street 2NR Joined: 16 Dec 2008 Tech posts: 72 My 2NRide:

You should seek some legal advice, if infact the owner voided the warranty on the vehicle DM must have it noted. If they do and the owner failed to inform you then its either court or 5k to one of the many collection agents/guntas and get back your money or a 20k off the price of a new car you bought with no drivetrain warranty. UNLESS Dm say he mess with the whole car now, hope you get past this sheit.

BTW a lil question, the car starts and runs normal idle wise?. And only when you mash the gas it cuts off?. Your car has transponder keys?, when the car was parked down was the battery removed?.

acmilan11 · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:17 am Post subject:

yea will seek some legal advice. but the car was repossessed so I do not know the last owner but will try and get the service history hopefully tom.

and to the question, yes it starts normal n idle well but wen ready to mash gas it switches off, but I not sure bout that transponder key and how it works but wat we hearin here is that the place where the vehicle was kept, like wen we were comin to pik it up they jumped start it n well daz the reason the company sayin n other than that the wrecker guy was also tellin us that he feel the ppl who was keepin it tamper up with it cuz the car manual was missin by whcih b4 wen we were inspectin it the manual was there...so it look like dem take wa dey cud take from the car b4 we collect it... alot of bachannal goin on there.

Mitsu_Exec · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:27 am Post subject:

acmilan11 · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:46 am Post subject:

yea really don't hav much options here, but b4 wen we inspected it we started it and revved it as well and it was fine...is only wen we actually went to collect it problems occured. So I guess is only those ppl u cud blame but can't do anyting about it cuz obviously if u go bak to face dem, dey go start to gey on bad n sheit...so daz d scene dey.

but on another note can anyone source a new brain or can direct me where to go...cuz i braksing from ordering from the co. and well I lookin to wreck it out tom cuz I dey gonna charge to keep it there now.

trvs · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:15 pm Post subject:

contact works evo as JUS4SHO suggested.

http://www.worksevo.com/classifieds.php

Shooter_boy_J · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:25 pm Post subject:

acmilan11, by chance u have a silver lancer???

JUS4SHO · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:14 pm Post subject:

i would go public with the problem ... my suggestion is to ask how they isolated the problem as the ECU, because if you invet in an ECU and thats not the problem , that an expensive mistake.
I would ask them to sway an ecu with another car just to ensure it solves the problem ( before you order the part from them) dat way if it work and it is in fact the ECU , you are now sure of the solution and can source your part cheaper else where.
I say thia again the only reason the mitsubishi dealer in this country is still around today is because of the quality of mitsubishi cars, their after sales service is the the lowest IMHO of all the dealers in this country, having experienced Suzuki, nissan.. etc

acmilan11 · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:48 pm Post subject:

shooter boy 3 - well if is this lancer u talkin bout yes it silver other than dat had a white ck lancer b4

jus4sho - well the ting wa dem tellin us is that each brain is programmed for the car so if they took another brain from another lancer it won't work cuz I carried a used brain from a crash GT this week and they told me dat...so I have to get a new one for dem to program it for dat lancer..
o and thanks for the website will look into it.

venum · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:44 pm Post subject:

acmilan11 · Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:10 am Post subject:

yea rel crap, but I planning on wrecking it today and trying the used brain to see for myself if it go work or not. will update u all on this issue

JUS4SHO · Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:56 am Post subject:

that can never be true then each car would be rated differently....

Shooter_boy_J · Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:08 am Post subject:

acmilan11, doh do that as yet give me until Monday lemme go and talk 2 dem fellaz in service and see what really going on wit ur car. cause that reall sounding like some serious BS!

acmilan11 · Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:44 am Post subject:

o shox jed my bro n dad done org to go up there already cuz dm closing lunch time..o welll try n see wa goin on in there na..thanks

trvs · Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:09 pm Post subject:

This hada be north DM right?

acmilan11 · Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject:

venum · Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:11 pm Post subject:

Fellas,

I talked to my mech today abiut the ECU issue

Sadly, what he told me was kinda vetting DM story bout the ECU

Basically in a nutshell:

The new cars these days have ECU's that programmed to match the chip in the ignition key

Once a ECU screwed a new one needs to be re-programmed

Another working one from another exact model will not work as it won't match the ignition key chip

There should be a lil square or circular area on the ignition key - that is where the chip is

He also told me that some types of the defective ECU may be re-programmed if they are in the open state

certain kinds of activities e.g. Tumbling too much can lock them - then they become totally useless

The newer cars are the Nissans, Subarus, Mitsus blah blah blah

Seems this is a method to prevent illegal parts swapping, theft etc

scientist · Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject:

here's my experience with a similar situation, I have an 08 Outlander Sport + Navi

I messed up the ecu trying to read the rom from it using ECU Flash. Funny thing is i was at the dealer when it happened, they tried recovering it but they needed to get their hands on a few updated software that would reload the Rom back to the ecu. So while they tried to get their hands on it i sought to buy a new one

i bought a used ecu off yahoo japan auctions through BidJDM (RHD Japan) and had the dealer reprogram it for my transponder and security system. These cars are can bus, everything is integrated. They can reprogram an ecu from another car to work on yours. I got my used ecu for $120 usd. RHD japan quoted me $700 usd for a new one. I got it within two weeks.

There should be quite a few available to you. Also you can get the service history on the dash of the car, or if you have navigation, through the touch screen stereo. My dads 07 Fortis Sports has that option

acmilan11 · Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject:

well venum, dat just demoralising to find out that I need a new ecu if the actual ecu is blown as claimed by the company. But its by the straightener now, so that will give us the opportunity to see whether or not that is the actual problem. Thanks for the info man.

venum · Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:46 pm Post subject:

acmilan11 · Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:03 am Post subject:

yea well we goin n try someting this morning by the straightener, cuz our mechanic has this obd2 scanner that does erase engine errors which we tried it out on my sister's lancer a 1.5 new model too and well it reading we even pull out the tps jack to see if it will detect n it did. So thats wat we gonna do to check if the scanner cud pik up whether its ecu failure o not jus to see if the company messin wit us...will update u all later

venum · Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:11 am Post subject:

Incredibly interested

Update when u have the info

scientist · Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:58 am Post subject:

acmilan11 · Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:28 pm Post subject:

ok well i not to long came bak from there, I walked with my mechanic and tried the scanner which said that the transmission fluid pressure is low, by which we started and reversed and drove fwd a couple times only to notice that their is an actual slippage of the gear from the transmission which is probably why the car not gettin any power to move but it rollin otherwise, so really no ecu failure whatsoever. But the straightener gettin another person to check it to confirm that it is the transmision now, so I awaiting the response from them.
On another note now, we checked the transmission fluid which smelt kinda burnt and might have the filings from the clutch, wey hopin it not dat bad, we was lookin to drain the oil but the straightener say wait on he response from the guy. So will keep u all updated when ah find out...

Rory Phoulorie · Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:21 pm Post subject:

How the hell someone focks up a new car like that? Is it the person was just being spiteful because it was being repossessed?

acmilan11 · Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:59 pm Post subject:

yea I would tink so cuz most of the 18" rims dished and doh talk about the tires look like dey rel burn out with them and the car has some body work to do as well...so it take some good ruff up b4 dey let go it

venum · Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:07 pm Post subject:

You need the new Mitsu J1 CVT fluid if you changing

Ramai's in Vistabella has it

Seems like previous owner did inflict some pain and hurt

She can come back from that

If tranny goin into fail safe limp mode, then the electronics taking over and saving the mechanical parts as they designed to - this is good

Check TCU as well

trvs · Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:08 pm Post subject:

sounds really good. Lets hope the cvt oil works

acmilan11 · Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:37 pm Post subject:

yea I bought some of that oil today its kinda pricey though $169 a quart...but like u sayin how it does go in fail safe mode...u tink it wud come bak to workin normal if I change the fluid?

venum · Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:55 pm Post subject:

Once the condition that triggered the sensors no longer exists, then YES

may need some manual intervention to clear the code in the ECU though

If the fluid worn, you can get low pressures, thus explaining the error code that yoi received

If I were you, seeeing that the car got some stress, I would do a full flush of tjat tranny, once it back on the road