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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:29 am
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Ok well I have a two channel 1600 watt SPL amp.

My brother got into a horrible accident with the car (he's ok now) and apparently the amp and the sub were pitched out of the car as it flipped and stuff. The amp is now covered in dry mud.

When I tilt it, nothing seems to be loose. I'm going to open it when I get home to make sure the internals look ok.

Can I use regular water to clean the amp then just ensure it's properly dried before applying power?

Is there anything else I need to look out for when testing this amp?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:48 am
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chances are that amp took an impack and if any of that mud or water went inside its gone....just throw it way and buy a new 1
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:01 am
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power it up after cleaning up and make sure to open it up, make sure no damages inside

power up using a fuse, or some sort of protection /precautionary method
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:04 am
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chances are that amp took an impack and if any of that mud or water went inside its gone....just throw it way and buy a new 1


If mud/water went inside, is it 100% gone? The amp would have been off when it took in any liquid.

And btw SSC, it's the same brother that you did the 15" box for... with the black civic...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:12 am
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power it up after cleaning up and make sure to open it up, make sure no damages inside

power up using a fuse, or some sort of protection /precautionary method



the charge the caps can hold can damage a person
i dont know where this habit of ppl opening amps came from as most do not know what they are looking at

powering up the amp after cleaning also may cause even more damage as you are not sure of the exact amount of damage
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:13 am
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^So what can I do?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:29 am
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I would suggest leave it alone for a week or two,

After get a tootbrush and clean the inside

Leave to dry in hot sun

Get a welding mask, fuse ,

Power on and hope for the best
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:33 am
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but jeff cant you just ground hook up a like a dc fan onto the terminals and the fan should spin and drain the current in the caps.

just saying not sure about this!

if i were you dred, i woulda just try that clean off the amp on the oustide, take off the bottom plate, look and see it any water and thing inside, get a blower and blow it out just incase, and then hook it up to a DC power supply, or one from an old computer or something and test it.

but that is just me though!!!!
but your bro and thing okay right, because at the end of the day the amp could throw away and buy a new one, but not so much a person.
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This is a link to a post where folks talked about recovering from Hurricane Ike water damaged equipment.

You might want to try CRC 2-26 - however fast response treatment seems to be the watch word.

http://www.diymobileaudio.c...damage-audio-what-do.html


"Welcome to my world.
I lost a lot of vintage gear to Ike, I live in the Bridge City area. It may be too late for some things, but for future reference CRC 2-26 is a moisture diplacement spray for electrical items.

I stocked up before I returned from our escape. Spray it and let it sit for a few days. Respray every day before you ever turn it on. I managed to save every motorized item and many of the electronic items.

Even yanked a few tools off the side of the road and brang back to life. My neighbor trashed a brand new 10" DeWalt chop saw. I soaked it for about a week and I've used it now for the last year for all the trim work in the house.

The salt water attacked the magnets pretty quick, I might have been able to save speakers, but I had to concentrate on things as priority. My A/C units are still running fine and you know that's number one down here. "
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:08 pm
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I would suggest leave it alone for a week or two,

After get a tootbrush and clean the inside

Leave to dry in hot sun

Get a welding mask, fuse ,

Power on and hope for the best


it's been about a month.

i'll clean it off this evening and open it to see if anything's dirty on the inside.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:09 pm
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i'd look around for any obvious damage inside..

clean it with a wet cloth and brush only, no water..

power it up and hope for the best..

once there is no major physical damage to the motherboard or any other components, the amp should be good to go.. and even if it doesn't start up, that doesn't mean it's bad, it could simply be a small fix..
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open up ....wash it out with water and reflush it out with electricial contact cleaner ....leave in the sun for a day (or use a blowdryer) and assemble back up and power up and fuse very small jes for powering up !!

i found a small amp already in a set of old stuff by meh cousins and it was in a reck ...rell bad ...did as i said and it started to work normal ...lol!!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:16 pm
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Okay some people saying use water... some saying don't

Can I have a confirmation please?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:35 pm
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DJ Q wrote:
Okay some people saying use water... some saying don't

Can I have a confirmation please?


Did inside the amp get wet? Check that 1st.. If not, leave it as is and just clean the outside..

If yes, carefully brush out all debris seem inside and if necessary, wipe with a damp cloth.. Using water is NOT recommended, even thought you might get away with it..

It's better imo to just use some contact cleaner without water..

If water get's under your components, it's going to take quite a long while to dry out, and in the long run can cause rust on contacts.. contact cleaner dries quickly and usually is non conductive..
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^Thanks.

I'll try my best to post pics when I'm doing it.

The male RCA pins actually broke of in the female jacks... pressure..
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i know u said d car flipped & stuff but was d equipment properly secured when it was installed ?

good to hear ur bro has survived & is ok but d same music equipment could have injured him even more in d process ...alot of ppl do not take this into consideration when doing a "install"

a few yrs ago i made a thread in this section about a news article how a guy who had a amp on his back dash that his car was rear ended & with d impact a amp he had there ended up flying & hit him from behind just below d neck & left him paralyzed



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DJ Q wrote:
Okay some people saying use water... some saying don't

Can I have a confirmation please?


Did inside the amp get wet? Check that 1st.. If not, leave it as is and just clean the outside..

If yes, carefully brush out all debris seem inside and if necessary, wipe with a damp cloth.. Using water is NOT recommended, even thought you might get away with it..

It's better imo to just use some contact cleaner without water..

If water get's under your components, it's going to take quite a long while to dry out, and in the long run can cause rust on contacts.. contact cleaner dries quickly and usually is non conductive..


though i never had cause to do it : i agree with his suggestion ....
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Wait till ole years night and power it up so if it does blow, you save like $200 in fireworks..
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:12 pm
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the outside of the amp condition is of no concern to its functioning.
Open it up and see if mud and water got in.

If it did it would obviously be dry by now.
Wipe off the remaining debris with a mildly damp cloth

Check the legs on the fets to make sure none is broken.

give it blazing sun for a day

Power it up.

You cant damage yourself from doing this.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:24 pm
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DJ Q wrote:
Ok well I have a two channel 1600 watt SPL amp.

My brother got into a horrible accident with the car (he's ok now) and apparently the amp and the sub were pitched out of the car as it flipped and stuff. The amp is now covered in dry mud.

When I tilt it, nothing seems to be loose. I'm going to open it when I get home to make sure the internals look ok.

Can I use regular water to clean the amp then just ensure it's properly dried before applying power?

Is there anything else I need to look out for when testing this amp?



Jus wondering why didnt he bolt on d amp 2 d bac seat of the car Confused ..For dat amp 2 pitch out d car dat impact hav 2 be realy strong....all d best in saving the amp Cool
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Ok well I have a two channel 1600 watt SPL amp.

My brother got into a horrible accident with the car (he's ok now) and apparently the amp and the sub were pitched out of the car as it flipped and stuff. The amp is now covered in dry mud.

When I tilt it, nothing seems to be loose. I'm going to open it when I get home to make sure the internals look ok.

Can I use regular water to clean the amp then just ensure it's properly dried before applying power?

Is there anything else I need to look out for when testing this amp?



Jus wondering why didnt he bolt on d amp 2 d bac seat of the car Confused ..For dat amp 2 pitch out d car dat impact hav 2 be realy strong....all d best in saving the amp Cool
^Car flipped a couple times

The sub box flew out the car as well. It's an Orion P1202 or something like that. Everything was bolted down. (As far as I know)
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^^^well yes...ah cud only imagine how i wud hav felt if i wuz in ur position...man does wuk reeel hard in obtaining dere knock and out of all the accidents i heard..dis is one of the worst.. Sad ..gud luck in saving the amp.
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so ummm....what become of the sub?
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thats the only thing i dislike about speakers behind your head in the car, they can easily become projectiles in a collision and take off your head

especially when its big ass 40 lb drivers
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I didn't really check the sub... I needed a mono and this 2 channel should do it for me...

The stuff flew out of the trunk eh people...

But back on topic, I'm yet to get a chance to sit down with this amp and do what I want to and it's too dark for me to take a pic of it right now. Hopefully I'll wake up early and I can see about this thing.
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Click for full-size.


Click for full-size.




Click for full-size.




As bad as all of that looked... The internals were still crisp and very clean.

Click for full-size.



More pics to come... the amp is in my car. Haven't wired it up as yet. And I have the sub too... my gosh.

Not going to say anything about it. The pics will speak for themselves.
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3stagevtec wrote:
If water get's under your components, it's going to take quite a long while to dry out, and in the long run can cause rust on contacts.. contact cleaner dries quickly and usually is non conductive..


Hold the exposed circuit board a few inches in front the exhaust vent for your household vacuum cleaner if it has one - the blast of air from the exhaust vent should be enough to dry the board off quickly enough. I keep an old small vacuum cleaner around mainly for the purpose of using it as a blower - the stream of air from its exhaust vent is powerful enough to get my BBQ lighted in under 5 minutes Smile.
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You sure that amp was bolted down?

The RCA center pins are broken off and left in the amp, yet the mounting feet shown in the pics don't even show evidence that the amp was mounted.
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board circuitry looks scanty compared to a good brand ... Shocked
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looks comparible to one of those smaller power acoustik amps.
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You sure that amp was bolted down?

The RCA center pins are broken off and left in the amp, yet the mounting feet shown in the pics don't even show evidence that the amp was mounted.


No i'm not sure. It was bolted when last I saw it.

And I put the CD in the 1st pic to show the size of the amp @ Rovin.

I did find it to be slightly naked on the inside though...
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