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bargin boi Street 2NR
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:08 am Post subject: Power Acoustik Amps |
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| Why do they overate their amps wen or if they know its tru?... |
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(...Rovin...) 3NE 2NR Power Seller
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:22 am Post subject: |
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so they cud fool d newbs or ppl who dont know better so that they cud get sale$
plenty other companies do it too ... |
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bargin boi Street 2NR
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| hmmm..gud point Rovin...now ah no 2 buy CEA compliant amps only..u get actual power ratings at dat ohm...thx !!! |
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slacker_jack Shifting into 6th
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| its all in the marketing. |
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kurpal_v2 Riding on 16's
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Power Acoustik Amps |
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| bargin boi wrote: | | Why do they overate their amps wen or if they know its tru?... |
IMO the amps not overrated. They just don't produce useable power. |
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Ginxdor 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Power Acoustik Amps |
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| kurpal_v2 wrote: | | IMO the amps not overrated. They just don't produce useable power. |
Explain please. |
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kurpal_v2 Riding on 16's
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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how are they rated?
At what freq and what voltage? We dont know this readily, a PA mono might just well produce rated at 21khz @ 19volts for all we know but thats unusable power or more so unrealistic to produce..The amp produces the power but its unusable..
I dont think such large companies like PA etc would risk a lawsuit like this for fraud against consumers..And in anycase, you get what you pay for-FACT. |
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Ginxdor 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| OK, I hear you but, I think it has been established that PA usually makes crap and somehow managed to produce the A3000db. |
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slacker_jack Shifting into 6th
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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arent the amps rated at 1khz? they will put out far less power at the lower frequencies.
when they say x amount of watts they mean it will be put out at x amount of hz @ x amount of volts.
compare the rating of a pa amp to that of a jbl, the jbl is rated at 12.5 volts & at the full range of frequencies. |
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bargin boi Street 2NR
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:07 am Post subject: Re: Power Acoustik Amps |
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| kurpal_v2 wrote: | | bargin boi wrote: | | Why do they overate their amps wen or if they know its tru?... |
IMO the amps not overrated. They just don't produce useable power. |
if u do a test on d amp 2 see how much watts d amp is actually givin out, wudnt dat determined if d amp is underated or overated?...dat cud be a solution..  |
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kurpal_v2 Riding on 16's
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Have you done such tests? If so why not share your results?
Have you read my previous reply? |
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madman.devin 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:05 am Post subject: |
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The PA company rate their amps on a full moon friday at exactly 1pm @ 18.672 volts with a sine wave at 1khz !
If you could recreate that then you'll have ur 3000 watts  |
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:10 am Post subject: |
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allyuh carry d PA amps by 3stagevtec & let him bench test it ... |
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bargin boi Street 2NR
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:25 am Post subject: |
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KURPAL V2, i jus asked a question 2 see if its tru..never done any tests on PA amps...jus askin u guys  |
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bargin boi Street 2NR
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| madman.devin wrote: | The PA company rate their amps on a full moon friday at exactly 1pm @ 18.672 volts with a sine wave at 1khz !
If you could recreate that then you'll have ur 3000 watts  |
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Kongorealm Street 2NR
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:50 am Post subject: |
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So why bash PA only? Other manufacturers do the same thing as well. PA is a economical brand. As was said before, you get what you pay for...
I have used this brand and although you don't get the rated rms, it alright for a small system and good for the price IMO.
By the way, I got my PA 1600/4 BAMF for $780 brand new (the model that looks like an RF).  |
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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^^^^..yea i no d BAMF series, d external appearence resembles a RF alot, i must say. But i doh understand y dem amps wanna luk like RF?...  |
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slacker_jack Shifting into 6th
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| bargin boi wrote: | ^^^^..yea i no d BAMF series, d external appearence resembles a RF alot, i must say. But i doh understand y dem amps wanna luk like RF?...  |
what wrong with RF amps?
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bargin boi Street 2NR
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| ^^^^read over my question again..Read from "BUT" to "RF".and tell me wat i asked in my post |
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slacker_jack Shifting into 6th
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| bargin boi wrote: | | ^^^^read over my question again..Read from "BUT" to "RF".and tell me wat i asked in my post |
I reading....
| me wrote: | | bargin boi wrote: | But i doh understand y dem amps wanna luk like RF?...  |
what wrong with RF amps? |
& again Im asking: what seems to be the problem? is something wrong with rockford amps? |
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