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MJ
3NE 2NR for life
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 Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:29 pm
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| if it's stock revving past the 7200rpm redline would make no sense since no more power will be made |
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QG
30 pounds of Boost
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Location: Cross-Crossing, San Fernando
My 2NRide: Nissan Y11 AD WAGON
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:39 am
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| MJ wrote: | | if it's stock revving past the 7200rpm redline would make no sense since no more power will be made |
You have a point.
But the ENGINE WAS ABLE TO REACH 160km/h in third gear (after rocking it from 2 to D-drive). Engine was real bawling, I thought he was gonna blow something on the highway.
Knight1, is not what I say, that's according to Nissan specs with 7200rpm being redline.
But knowing trini's, we always pushing things to the limit  |
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Anton
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:14 am
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| QG wrote: | | Anton wrote: | The 20v would collect some licks on the 1/4 from the sr20vvl, but will hold its own on longer stretches.
Fact, not Fiction. |
LOL  ...so does the VVL my friend |
WRT to gearing. When i had the 20v ST in my AE92 i had it mated to a 3A gearbox. The ratios made for really fun driving. In 3rd gear the speedo would hit the end of the 180 kph journey with 4th and 5th still accelerating. The matchup with the neo in a Y10 is not fictional. I got cut arse in the 1/4 (the best it ever did was a 16.1) but the highway runs were always very competitive.
BTW i do not condone street racing in any form. Spirited driving under reasonably controlled circumstances is a different kettle of fish. |
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V2NR 3.0
3NE 2NR Power Seller
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:17 pm
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On the power band, i shift just before 7200rpm to maximise power. My engine is pushed to its limits.
Gear 3 - Im crossing 160km |
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Supra GT-FOUR
Street 2NR
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:46 am
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| QG wrote: | sr20ve 7200 rpm according to specs.
I have personally seen VVLs making 8000rpm, 8500rpm and 9000rpm (this was automatic, using the 1, and 2 lever) and all on stock form.  |
What ecu were the said cars runnin? cause on a stock VE ecu there is a fuel cut at 7200RPM
And booge u real lucky to even know what speed u goin man. I usually have to guesstimate by the amount of vehicles i passin. Glad to see u enjoyin the VVL. When the MSS comin? |
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V2NR 3.0
3NE 2NR Power Seller
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:44 pm
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| Supra GT-FOUR wrote: | | QG wrote: | sr20ve 7200 rpm according to specs.
I have personally seen VVLs making 8000rpm, 8500rpm and 9000rpm (this was automatic, using the 1, and 2 lever) and all on stock form. |
What ecu were the said cars runnin? cause on a stock VE ecu there is a fuel cut at 7200RPM
And booge u real lucky to even know what speed u goin man. I usually have to guesstimate by the amount of vehicles i passin. Glad to see u enjoyin the VVL. When the MSS comin? |
MSS is in the country. Just need to hook up. |
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Knight1
Shifting into 6th
Joined: 17 Aug 2005
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:54 pm
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^^So I'm curious......why go from an SR20DET (based on another thread you posted), to an N/A VVL?
I'm sure a properly modded DET might be more "confident" against an N/A 20V?(Or am I wrong?) |
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A172
TriniTuner 24-7
Joined: 11 Aug 2008
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My 2NRide: Chevrolet Monza
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:29 pm
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| Knight1 wrote: | | ^^So I'm curious......why go from an SR20DET (based on another thread you posted), to an N/A VVL? |
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Knight1
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:40 pm
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^^Ok....I guess I should retract my post then 
A172 and a popcorn icon cyah be a good ting in dis kinda ched............
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A172
TriniTuner 24-7
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:44 pm
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| nah nah....leff it |
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V2NR 3.0
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:33 pm
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| Knight1 wrote: | | ^^So I'm curious......why go from an SR20DET (based on another thread you posted), to an N/A VVL? I'm sure a properly modded DET might be more "confident" against an N/A 20V?(Or am I wrong?) |
Well, there has been a change in priorities. House, land, education etc. The mtce related costs on a turbo engine are quite high and could be put to better use especially in these times. Later on, i would definitely be starting a new project, but thats after some goals are achieved.
The VVL option gives me the best of all worlds > performance, duarability, and dependability.  |
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A172
TriniTuner 24-7
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:38 pm
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| righhhhhhhhht |
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Knight1
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:24 am
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| Quote: | | The mtce related costs on a turbo engine are quite high |
Really? I've never really found that to be more than a myth.
Oh well.....to each his own. |
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Supra GT-FOUR
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:25 am
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| booge. all you have to do is check Anil an he go handle yuh[/b] |
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V2NR 3.0
3NE 2NR Power Seller
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:38 am
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^^^ Yes. Im checking him Saturday. This is the last thing which falls under the "wiring" up off the car.
A172 : Organise what you have for me - is it possible you can get Mobil 15 50? |
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A172
TriniTuner 24-7
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:08 am
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you now checking me for that?
nah I think 5w 50 is what I cud get my hands on up here.....lemme know. |
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Supra GT-FOUR
Street 2NR
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:35 am
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booge just a lil warnin when u get it wired up dont try messin with it too much (unless you can read japanese) cause it can be a pain navigating through the various menus and sub-menus trying to get it to work how you want it.
The MSS can monitor up to 3 paramaters (RPM, TPS, boost, Speed, Temp) and all you really want it to monitor is RPM alone and switch cams based on that |
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Razkal
2NRholic
Joined: 30 May 2004
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:51 pm
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| Anton wrote: | | QG wrote: | | Anton wrote: | The 20v would collect some licks on the 1/4 from the sr20vvl, but will hold its own on longer stretches.
Fact, not Fiction. |
LOL ...so does the VVL my friend |
WRT to gearing. When i had the 20v ST in my AE92 i had it mated to a 3A gearbox. The ratios made for really fun driving. In 3rd gear the speedo would hit the end of the 180 kph journey with 4th and 5th still accelerating. The matchup with the neo in a Y10 is not fictional. I got cut arse in the 1/4 (the best it ever did was a 16.1) but the highway runs were always very competitive.
BTW i do not condone street racing in any form. Spirited driving under reasonably controlled circumstances is a different kettle of fish. |
Cosign, anton's ae92 was the most fun 20V powered car i've been in, the 3A box's gearing made for some seriously awesome driving  |
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V2NR 3.0
3NE 2NR Power Seller
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:43 pm
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| Supra GT-FOUR wrote: | booge just a lil warnin when u get it wired up dont try messin with it too much (unless you can read japanese) cause it can be a pain navigating through the various menus and sub-menus trying to get it to work how you want it.
The MSS can monitor up to 3 paramaters (RPM, TPS, boost, Speed, Temp) and all you really want it to monitor is RPM alone and switch cams based on that |
Thanks for the info. |
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V2NR 3.0
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:44 pm
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| A172 wrote: | you now checking me for that?
nah I think 5w 50 is what I cud get my hands on up here.....lemme know. |
Well didnt think you have to check someone if they have something for you ? - For a couple bucks less or more - can you purchase the 15 50 mobil. Im switching back to Mobil |
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adriano7910
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Joined: 28 Dec 2008
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:45 pm
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| Supra GT-FOUR wrote: | i really dont see the point in comparing a 1.6l 20 valve and a 2.0l sr20 vvl. efficiency is about hp per litre.
A more sutiable comparison would be the sr16-ve and the 20valve both having 1.6l displacement.
also what version of 20valve balcktop or silvertop? |
bess we throw a b16a or b into this 1.6 mix too just saying  |
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V2NR 3.0
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:05 am
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| lol |
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Supra GT-FOUR
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:54 am
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[quote="adriano7910]
bess we throw a b16a or b into this 1.6 mix too just saying [/quote]
We dont discriminate pally competition breeds innovation... thats one of the reasons why ppl like lamborghini etc. started building cars |
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