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HSI_CREW
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 Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:59 pm
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| has any stroked their B16 or B18? 2.0/2.2 and y or why not. |
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Pootie
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:02 am
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| red_dragon wrote: | for now k20 rules .. best is 13.?
till a b18c with stock internals does that ...
Note I said stock internal .. I doh care what u bolt outside
as far as Cleriq the 4.7 made the biggest difference overall
as far as internals if he had stage 2 as u people say with stock pistons is a waste .. u need 12:1 and over
13:1 FTW |
:coughhh: :coughh:
:cough: again!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPRZssA78DM
all STOCK OEM HONDA internals!!
that was on a true street tire 195-50-15.  |
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honda hoe
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:04 am
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my car will always remain n/a
when i tune i'm hoping for around 230whp
i'm thinkin dat should put me at mid 13's on the 1/4
dats cool wit me as its my daily driver |
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EL JEFE
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:06 am
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| Pootie, what work was done there ? |
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No Fear at all!!!
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:08 am
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COOL!!! and with the gearbox the k-series have its quite possible...  |
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EL JEFE
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:08 am
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| honda hoe wrote: | my car will always remain n/a
when i tune i'm hoping for around 230whp
i'm thinkin dat should put me at mid 13's on the 1/4
dats cool wit me as its my daily driver |
You not going and try C16 at all? |
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Pootie
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:12 am
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| EL JEFE wrote: | | Pootie, what work was done there ? |
98 GSR block (stock crank, rods,bearings, pump,seals etc- only thing swapped in was OEM HONDA CTR PISTONS), 99 B16 head (stock port, with ITR valves, springs and retainers, and CTR cams ). I swapped to Crower 404 cams a month later and went 13.6@103mph
Ls tranny (if you listen good, i was still in 3rd at the 1/4 mile) I'm sure the car would have gone .20-.30 faster with a better geared tranny like a B16.
stock pressure plate with a ACT 6 puc
tuned on 93 octain pump gas, on a chipped p28 on Crome. |
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honda hoe
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:15 am
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| EL JEFE wrote: | | honda hoe wrote: | my car will always remain n/a
when i tune i'm hoping for around 230whp
i'm thinkin dat should put me at mid 13's on the 1/4
dats cool wit me as its my daily driver |
You not going and try C16 at all? |
no. i like my car to be consistent |
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Pootie
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:16 am
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oh the car made around 185whp , and was about 2350lbs with me in it ( full interior and tools) on a street tire. Had the car stolen b4 i could run it on a slick.. And after that i wanted to go fast . So i went boost!!
Honestly it's just toooo muchhhhhh to get a all motor car to go fast. For the same amount of $$ it would take to make a All Motor car go 12's , you can go 9's with a Turbo car.  |
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Pootie
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:17 am
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| honda hoe wrote: | | EL JEFE wrote: | | honda hoe wrote: | my car will always remain n/a
when i tune i'm hoping for around 230whp
i'm thinkin dat should put me at mid 13's on the 1/4
dats cool wit me as its my daily driver |
You not going and try C16 at all? |
no. i like my car to be consistent |
why would C16 make your car any less "consistent"? |
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ingalook
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:25 am
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| Pootie wrote: | | EL JEFE wrote: | | Pootie, what work was done there ? |
98 GSR block (stock crank, rods,bearings, pump,seals etc- only thing swapped in was OEM HONDA CTR PISTONS), 99 B16 head (stock port, with ITR valves, springs and retainers, and CTR cams ). I swapped to Crower 404 cams a month later and went 13.6@103mph
Ls tranny (if you listen good, i was still in 3rd at the 1/4 mile) I'm sure the car would have gone .20-.30 faster with a better geared tranny like a B16.
stock pressure plate with a ACT 6 puc
tuned on 93 octain pump gas, on a chipped p28 on Crome. |
What's that pootie? Simple and cheap that works? You is a mad man... cyar be
You need ITBs, CP pistons, Eagle Rods, balanced crankshaft, flat valves, AEM, MSD, Hytech header, bore and sleve to 85mm, etc etc etc to run 13s with a Honda 
13.7 is a 300hp AWD stock evo... amazing that a 200hp (guesstimate) 1.8L FWD car can run similar times
Very impressive man  |
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Pootie
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:29 am
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but getting back on topic!!
I donno how much aftermarket support is avaliable for H22s in Trinidad. But that will be one hell of a task getting parts!!
As some said b4. Why not go B boost? (i understand you wanna be "different". And if you have the budget i say go for itt). bUT IT GO BE A HELLLLL OF A LOTTT LESS STRESS.
But if you working with a slim budget you can't afford to make costly mistakes/choices!
One of the weak points with H22s (especially if you putting it in anything other than a Prelude or Accord) is The drivetrain and axels!! Thats why everyone going H2B
going All Motor H22 is very capable of being a good fast street car with the right bolt ons (and even faster if you go a lil higher with the compression of the pistons and cams , AND A GOOOOOOD TUNE).. |
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HSI_CREW
Riding on 13's
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:41 am
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Pootie,H2b kinda cotyly look at it months ago but rather invest funds else where, don't really shop locally so once i get support in US or Euro i set even Aus.
As for boost taught about it but not heading down that road soon i doubt it |
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EL JEFE
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:43 am
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| Pootie wrote: | oh the car made around 185whp , and was about 2350lbs with me in it ( full interior and tools) on a street tire. Had the car stolen b4 i could run it on a slick.. And after that i wanted to go fast . So i went boost!!
Honestly it's just toooo muchhhhhh to get a all motor car to go fast. For the same amount of $$ it would take to make a All Motor car go 12's , you can go 9's with a Turbo car. |
What was the torque figures? |
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Pootie
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:52 am
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What was the torque figures? |
honestly, i don't even remember. I'll see if i can find the draph tomorrow.
| HSI_CREW wrote: | Pootie,H2b kinda cotyly look at it months ago but rather invest funds else where, don't really shop locally so once i get support in US or Euro i set even Aus.
As for boost taught about it but not heading down that road soon i doubt it |
i wish i could help ya out !!
I was suposed to be comming home for Christmas, But meh wife 7 months pregnant and she cya fly!! So i have to stay!!
I woulda pick up from parts for you!!
but this is meh friend's car, i wish you could take a ride it in . You would make up ya mind fasttttttt.. H22 , Gt4088, 16psi in the video ( made about 460whp@16psi)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Orje0u-lDc |
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HSI_CREW
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:59 am
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| Pootie,details on build 16psi i would be happy with 6-8 |
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Pootie
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:17 am
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| HSI_CREW wrote: | | Pootie,details on build 16psi i would be happy with 6-8 |
well that was a sleeved block. But at 16psi is very doable on stock sleeves (dispite what others may say).
I have personally seen a 100% bone stock H22 make 357whp on pump gas, with stock intake manifold and throttle body.
That build list went like this : It was in a 96 Accord
Stock H22
Stock intake mani and TB
RC 750cc injectors
tube log manifold similiar to this onehttp://mbracinginc.rpmwa...nifold/p410/i-222321.aspx
Precision SC60-1 T3 turbo (any good 57mm-67mm turbo would work GREAT to make the kinda power you want and still be very responsive)
walbro 255 intank fuel pumphttp://www.xenocron.com...7d17b76f71732c512e666d978
AEM fuel rail and regulator
Motorola 2.5 bar mapsensor (a 3 bar map sensor will work good also, and is good to 28psi IF NEEDED!  )http://www.xenocron.com/3-bar-map-sensor-kit-gm-p-195.html?osCsid=22ac5cc7d17b76f71732c512e666d978
Tuned on a chipped ecu on the EMS of your choise.
The right Ebay intercooler will do WORKKK! like this onehttp://www.siliconeintak...e43163e48cbe36bf486adef19
pipeing !! i'm sure you know someone that can weld Alum. Or you can get the Ebay pipeing kits. they come Alum and beadrolled like thesehttp://cgi.ebay.com/eb...uckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
BOV is your choise, even the 1g DSM BOV work good, and with some modding you can get them to hold higher boost levels.http://www.thedodgegarage.com/turbo_bov_mod.html
couplers and clamps. these seem cheap for me , and this is where i get my stuffhttp://www.siliconeint...e43163e48cbe36bf486adef19
http://www.siliconeintakes....e43163e48cbe36bf486adef19
I might be missing lil sheit, But you get the idea
Oh yea wastegate. There is no substitute for Tial!!. But Turbosmart would be my next choise!! I see many a good build go to $hit because the simple task of controling boost was not reached, and boost sikes due to weak spring rate or wear gate diafram and KAboom!
Don't spend a ton on the flashy stuff. This was at one point the BESTTT boost controller i have ever used!!
http://www.xenocron.com/man...7d17b76f71732c512e666d978
and nothing like a good turbo at a good price. NEWWW!
http://www.xenocron.com/pre...7d17b76f71732c512e666d978
AND IF YOU DO PISTON AND RODS . THERE IS NOOOOO REASON WHY YOU SHOULD'NT BE ABLE TO MAKE 500WHP!!! ( THE ONLY THING I FEEL IFFY ABOUT ARE STOCK HONDA RODS. I WOULD NOT PUSH THEM PAST 300WHP. IT WOULD SUCK TO TROW ONE OF THEM THROUGH YOUR BLOCK. THERE IS NO COMMING BACK FROM THAT KINDA FAILER!
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Kinday
Shifting into 6th
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:24 am
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Ah....one of my fave youtube vids of all time. That Del Sol is awesome.
HSI one more time FTW....booooooooost eeeeet |
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Pootie
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:54 am
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| Kinday wrote: | Ah....one of my fave youtube vids of all time. That Del Sol is awesome.
HSI one more time FTW....booooooooost eeeeet |
Yea and after a tonnn of issues. He done back B!!
He should have the car back up and B-powered in March. Spoke to him yesterday and he gonna try to make 900whp'ish this time around! |
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Kinday
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:57 am
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I always thought the B would work way better in the Del Sol...I'd love to see the progress of that project.
HSI....Turbo engines can be very reliable and the H22 FRM sleeves won't matter unless you wanna live over 11psi and hit it real hard everyday. There's a lot of speculation out there and few guys just rag on it before they try stuff....It's alot of scared responses, just like the weight of the H22 being 150lbs more than a B series. Give it a try.
That's a decent list Pootie gave you there....focus on a great turbo and excellent management and you're on. This might even be you
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