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Ignorant Ignis 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: moving on up |
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well.....they want me to move up to the ss class.
but i'm left undecided.
pros:
1) i will be competitive against current competition
2) i will be alowed to upgrade power, drive train & suspension
3) esp class already decided for 2008
4) safe position in 2008 shoot out
cons:
1)course design that alows straight line acceleration
2)faster cars (15.5-14.00 1/4mile) entering the SS class
3)rule changes - tires, suspension.
4)not being able to go back down to esp if i getting a sound cut arse from bill and others.
so my question to the executive is .......
will you be forcing me to move up or am i getting to make this decision on my own?
solodex 5 is less than 3 weeks  |
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Rudman Riding on 17's
Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1237 Location: Wanting to blame Goodridge, but its my fault. My 2NRide:
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:09 am Post subject: |
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But I thought you had openly defy any class bump until next year?......
What's the point in bumping you from now, this year, when 4 competition events have already passed? Would your points and trophies be redistributed if going to the SS class this year?
Is there an official protest from someone, or the executive just nudging you?
Will you have to dyno the car? |
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Ignorant Ignis 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| Rudman wrote: | But I thought you had openly defy any class bump until next year?......
What's the point in bumping you from now, this year, when 4 competition events have already passed? Would your points and trophies be redistributed if going to the SS class this year?
Is there an official protest from someone, or the executive just nudging you?
Will you have to dyno the car? |
if i choose to move up ...there will be no re-distribution of trophies
i have already won the esp class for 2008
no official protest to date
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Ignorant Ignis 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| would like to here some opinions |
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Rudman Riding on 17's
Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1237 Location: Wanting to blame Goodridge, but its my fault. My 2NRide:
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Personally, I think U should move on up to SS...........just to see the worried look on Bill's face would be priceless!.....
U have a budget set aside for further mods on the Iggy? This would be important, make sure U have 15 x7" rims and at least $3000 for tyres alone (if U ent get any Sponsors) |
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pete 3NE 2NR Moderator
Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 3289 Location: Cruisin around in da GTi My 2NRide: Suzuki Swift
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Once I'm not in ESP yuh could stay  |
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Ignorant Ignis 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| pete wrote: | Once I'm not in ESP yuh could stay  |
YES YOU ARE  |
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crazybalhead punchin NOS
Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 3121
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Go nah man. Take yuh cutass like a man. Yuh eh see I hauling up last in EP now??? Until mudboy come out. I go leave that place for him.  |
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pete 3NE 2NR Moderator
Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 3289 Location: Cruisin around in da GTi My 2NRide: Suzuki Swift
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Ignorant Ignis wrote: | | pete wrote: | Once I'm not in ESP yuh could stay  |
YES YOU ARE  |
yuh feel iz a swift sport i have or wha? |
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DEVI 2NR phototakerouter
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Cris whats the problem here..... in a nutshell u have a competitive SS car hands down... do u want to continue racing against cars and drivers that cannot beat u or wouldnt u rather challenge yourself in the ss class ?....and btw i believe if u were in ss right now u would be leading. We set equal courses throughout the year, ie at the end of the year there would have been 3 fast and 3 tight so its fair to everyone...Ryan P and myself volunteered to compete in the EP class 2006 wth his GTI and my Mirage because their was no one in EP except Barry M......so take it as a sign of greatness and volunteer to move up nex year....btw i driving the Mirage in SS nex year  |
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Rudman Riding on 17's
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | btw i driving the Mirage in SS nex year |
Iggy, how does second place in SS sound next year? Ah really hope U putting down some decent mods for DEVI eh.
BTW, What will Gen be driving? |
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Quiksilver 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 07 May 2007 Tech posts: 133 Location: Deep in the heart of the concrete jungle My 2NRide:
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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^^^ a very valid question Rudi....
Devi...Gen know you driving the Mirage next year? ...kidding!!!
Amir I say stay in ESP for the rest of the year and do some mods and join SS next year....from the results it obvious you outgrown the competition in ESP....Try something new for the following year.....new competition might keep you more on your toes and make the fight more interesting ..... |
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Ignorant Ignis 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Rudman wrote: | | Quote: | | btw i driving the Mirage in SS nex year |
Iggy, how does second place in SS sound next year? Ah really hope U putting down some decent mods for DEVI eh.
BTW, What will Gen be driving? |
with the mirage in SS i don't stand a chance without a few thousands worth of mods.
i think i will stay in esp and do mods to the car till the rest of the year ...and then move up  |
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wagonrunner 18 pounds of Boost
Joined: 18 May 2004 Tech posts: 2426 Location: Staying just ahead of the curve My 2NRide: Nissan Y10 Wingroad LE
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| reading the above, but noticing like its only certain drivers are told to aspire to be "great". others could dn.............. (loses brakes, and crashes out of thread) |
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Ignorant Ignis 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| wagonrunner wrote: | | reading the above, but noticing like its only certain drivers are told to aspire to be "great". others could dn.............. (loses brakes, and crashes out of thread) |
man have bout 7-8 years in the same class and ent move yet |
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Yorkshirelass CARS Member
Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Tech posts: 175
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| ^^and driving the same car, but not always winning |
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MG Man 2NRholic
Joined: 01 May 2003 Tech posts: 2639 Location: Sitting on a cornflake My 2NRide: Vauxhall Chevette
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Amir, what do the rules say?
To me it is all about where your car falls according to it's classification.
If you are a better driver than the other guys in your class, I think they should be challenged to step up to your level. If you go up to SS, then they have no benchmark...
I cannot see why a driver must be penalized or pressured to 'move up' because of his skill.....what happens if you dominate SS, then you get bumped to SCCA??????
| Yorkshirelass wrote: | | ^^and driving the same car, but not always winning |
does this not apply to Amir? Does he always win?
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NarendZORCE 3NE 2NR Moderator
Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 1929 Location: Making it so... like #1 My 2NRide: Mazda RX-7
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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As far as I remember, the rules of classing have to do with the power to weight ratio of a car and the quarter mile time. This is the rule, we should stick to it.
As far as I know competition rules were set at the start of the year, why BEND them now? To suit opinions? For the sake of improving the spectator value?
Putting Amir in SS is a subjective decision not related to the rules.
Are we saying that CARS/Solodex is now a driving school? Are we attending a class where the driving instructor says "Hey, you there, go run with the faster cars!" for the sake of improving a driver?
And if by opinion, the issue is that Amir is too competitive then what about the impending challenge from Ryan Peyrau in the Suzuki Swift Sport? He came close to Amir's times at Dex4. |
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NarendZORCE 3NE 2NR Moderator
Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 1929 Location: Making it so... like #1 My 2NRide: Mazda RX-7
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Let Amir revisit the dyno, the 1/4 mile and the scale and see if he needs to be re-classified. |
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NarendZORCE 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Unless of course he CHOOSES to move up in class himself. |
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