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Duane 3NE 2NR TriniTuner Crew
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:42 pm Post subject: MotorSport talk on i95.5FM - 20th Dec - 6:15pm |
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This Thusrday on iSports, the fearless one, Andre Errol Baptiste takes aim at the associations in the MotorSport industry. Several members of the MotorSport Industry will be in studio.
Imtiaz Seepersad of TTRA
Jameer Ali of TTASA
Karen Pinheiro of CARS/Solodex
Rawle Mahabir of AutoSport Promotions Ltd.
A lot of questions have to be answered.
So join us from 6:15pm this Thursday 20th December 2007
send your email to isports@andrebaptiste.com |
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link Trinituner Peong
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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curious...not seeing :
TTRC
TTMF
TTDRA
TORMATT
TTKA
TTOA
maybe the studio is too small for a proper crossection of motor sporting bodies to be represented  |
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Duane 3NE 2NR TriniTuner Crew
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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^ maybe - or maybe those were the people he invited  |
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link Trinituner Peong
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:14 am Post subject: |
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| Duane 3NE 2NR wrote: | ^ maybe - or maybe those were the people he invited  |
well.......judging from the proposed panel..and the preceeding programs baptiste has hosted...
1/ i hope his obvious negative ttasa bias is not aired
2/ maybe...just maybe...the way FORWARD might be the guiding point
but,...trini only like mauvais lang & corruption........& I really only see a ratings chase with no real thrust toward solving the still-pending issue of NO PERMANENT MOtOR SPORT FACILITY IN T&T
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even the temporary Camden arrangement has been ammended adversely against motor racing (TTASA) with respect to the ability to conduct events there. This by the new 'minister' of sports (dare I say minister ?).
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motor racing has nowhere to go in this country..except into somebody's pocket....look at the alignments being engineered & extrapolate......
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quote me when that happens
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Duane 3NE 2NR TriniTuner Crew
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| ^ doh shoot the messenger - I only make announcements |
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link Trinituner Peong
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:29 am Post subject: |
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| Duane 3NE 2NR wrote: | | ^ doh shoot the messenger - I only make announcements |
nothing aimed at you...sori if it seemed that way...but..
u can qte me on above if u wish
rgds
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X2 Trying to catch PATCH AND VEGA
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| Do we have any good questions to throw at them ? |
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wagonrunner 18 pounds of Boost
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| link wrote: | | Duane 3NE 2NR wrote: | ^ maybe - or maybe those were the people he invited  |
well.......judging from the proposed panel..and the preceeding programs baptiste has hosted...
1/ i hope his obvious negative ttasa bias is not aired
2/ maybe...just maybe...the way FORWARD might be the guiding point
but,...trini only like mauvais lang & corruption........& I really only see a ratings chase with no real thrust toward solving the still-pending issue of NO PERMANENT MOtOR SPORT FACILITY IN T&T
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even the temporary Camden arrangement has been ammended adversely against motor racing (TTASA) with respect to the ability to conduct events there. This by the new 'minister' of sports (dare I say minister ?).
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motor racing has nowhere to go in this country..except into somebody's pocket....look at the alignments being engineered & extrapolate......
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quote me when that happens
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and the only reason yuh upset, is because you beleive it should go only into TTASA's pockets, and noone elses.
Organizers & promoter & car-clubs should work hard, just to give the TTASA jefe's all their proceeds ................. because TTASA deemed their activities "safe". |
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Duane 3NE 2NR TriniTuner Crew
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: |
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I was looking at the news last night and the hockey people have their sh!t together. Everybody under one governing body and NSO who supports and brings value and benefit to the sport. They are competing internationally and representing the country and producing national heroes through the proper process which helps to valid the achievements. Because of this they get the full support of corporate sponsors and the ministry.
The main question to ask right now is what will it take for motorsport to get its sh!t in order so it can benefit from the same support hockey is now getting.
Are the key players willing to do what it takes?
History says no.
But 2008 is a new year, new hope of a track, new minister of sport who is a racer, and who knows maybe new executive blood? |
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link Trinituner Peong
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| wagonrunner wrote: | [and the only reason yuh upset, is because you beleive it should go only into TTASA's pockets, and noone elses.
Organizers & promoter & car-clubs should work hard, just to give the TTASA jefe's all their proceeds ................. because TTASA deemed their activities "safe". |
weelll...
look at the years that a promotions company 'ran' drag racing.......all allyuh 'cash cow'.....
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what was the development & upliftment to motor sports that resulted
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TTASA is the only organisation that is MANDATED BY IT'S CONSTITUTION TO DEVELOP & UPLIFT MOTOR RACING
promotions companies see ONLY THEIR POCKETS......
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so if u want a plain-talk answer....YES, I AM UPSET...that the same sh!t is being expounded by the likes of u (& others)......& to tell u the truth,...if u want it so & watch house,land,car appear out of 'nowhere' , & then stupidly wonder how motorsports sink so low (& cuss TTASA for making it so)...then vote for it.......otherwise...STFU.
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wagonrunner 18 pounds of Boost
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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link,
use your organizational skills for d circuit race in t'dad this weekend nah.
wait.....................what's the reason this is not possible?
you obviusly need to take your own advice.
as far as "promotions company 'ran' drag racing.......all allyuh 'cash cow'..... "goes.
1), that's just one body / discipline. why don't the rest want any part of you?
and again.....................why create a cost for persons to do one thing, yet let the rest go free.
it is numbered 1 for a reason.
you 've never answered
* the FIA license @ wallers question, while the guys underage nephew was allowed to drive a car there.
* the compensation for the dog-bite victims at camden
* the okay to perform............. what was it again............ ah yes, evaluating of vehicles handling.....aka SPEEDING..........by some, but not others.
how about you STFU, or answer these questions before you next bray.
| Quote: | | what was the development & upliftment to motor sports that resulted |
TTASA's greed was in the way then. and is in the way now.
TTASA is the only organization that is MANDATED BY IT'S CONSTITUTION TO DEVELOP & UPLIFT MOTOR RACING
how has this been done? what has been done?
and we eh talking camden. is a 40yr period.
worse yet as NSO, what records can be shown the public, income vs expenditures.
and keep in mind the promotional company you want to bring into this, is a private company. TTASA does not have that luxury of an excuse.
| Quote: | | so if u want a plain-talk answer....YES, I AM UPSET...that the same sh!t is being expounded by the likes of u (& others)......& to tell u the truth,...if u want it so & watch house,land,car appear out of 'nowhere' , & then stupidly wonder how motorsports sink so low (& cuss TTASA for making it so)...then vote for it.......otherwise...STFU. |
cry me a river.
anyone has 6 strings to accompany this.
TTASA has f'ed up. repeatedly, and refuse to allow others, to even attempt to do better.
so now TnT motorsport is in a condition where better can be done, but the worst refuse to allow it.
Motorsport in Tnt could possibly die with you all. if ever that happens I wish TTASA as it stands now dies as well. only because that way TNT Motorsport and a presiding body capable of managing it, may both flourish. |
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link Trinituner Peong
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| wagonrunner wrote: | | [and keep in mind the promotional company you want to bring into this, is a private company. TTASA does not have that luxury of an excuse. |
so a private company is not bound by any mandate to develop motor sports in T&T........
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so you validate the point I make but try to stand on the 'other' side........
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if u think a private company -which, mind you, reaped the $$$$ benefits of 'running drags' for a number of years, is the way to go......by all means...go ahead.....
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if you can't accept that TTASA as the NSO & governing body for motor sports is constitutionally bound to develop motor sports with whatever revenues is accrues.......what can I say ???
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if you ..........
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anyways....
let's try again :-
STFU |
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wagonrunner 18 pounds of Boost
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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sigh...............same rubbish different day. the TTASA way.
all you see is your hate for said company. the other issues, you are in a postion to turn a blind eye to. so you do, and you hope for persons to have confidence in you......................musbe some brand of thinking developed from years of going round in circles, backwards.
stay bound to your mandate. It has proven to be the solution thus far.
the 40+year track record speaks volumes, of what is your organizations real interest. |
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X2 Trying to catch PATCH AND VEGA
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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wagonrunner made the same valid points as made MANY times before.
A promotions company has ZERO requirement to put any proceeds toward development... whereas TTASA is mandated to do so... which is why TTASA should make it so that both motorsport AND the promotional company see a benefit from an event.
To say that the promotional company took the money and run is WRONG... it is the responsibility of TTASA to collect and disburse a portion of the proceeds towards the development of mospo.... If TTASA then ALLOWS the company to do as they please... don't go blaming the company... blame the people IN CHARGE of mospo.
BTW... 3 decades + of TTASA rule and they supposed to develop mospo... umm... does TTASA have grandstands or even a timing system of their own ? Or they still borrowing from the 'evil promotions companies' ?
I wonder if some of the questions posed will be on the agenda ?
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SR Chief Cook & Instigator
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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this is going to be another waste of time
everyone is going to sya their piece and with no minister of sports to confrim or deny any statements made by any of the invited guests its all going to be misleading
ttasa is going to say one thing
other parties are going to say somthing else
and it will just be a who say who didnt say
as nothing can be confirmed it the minister of sports is not there
link as well as the rest of the senior people in ttaa have a permanent grouse with autosport because autosport was formed becasue some people who were members of ttasa saw a vision with drag racing which the rest of members were not interested in |
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SR Chief Cook & Instigator
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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there have been other issues and incidences between ttasa and autosport in the past of which ttasa chooses to use as thier constant excuse for why motorsport is in shambles
unless there is new blood on ttasa's board there will always be the constant disagreements between ttasa and other fraternities
keep the name ttasa
have 2 reps from each fraternity so everyone has fair representation
leave jameer as president
and tell the honourary members of ttasa to be just that and stop dictating from the background
keep them as advisors and not adminsitrators
as most of them suffer from the typical old trini indian syndrome where they cant seem to let go and allow the younger generation to take over
no insult meant at anyone in my posts
so ttasa can print and keep this one toon for thier record |
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SUPAstarr 3NE 2NR Power Seller
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Duane 3NE 2NR wrote: | I was looking at the news last night and the hockey people have their sh!t together. Everybody under one governing body and NSO who supports and brings value and benefit to the sport. They are competing internationally and representing the country and producing national heroes through the proper process which helps to valid the achievements. Because of this they get the full support of corporate sponsors and the ministry.
The main question to ask right now is what will it take for motorsport to get its sh!t in order so it can benefit from the same support hockey is now getting.
Are the key players willing to do what it takes?
History says no.
But 2008 is a new year, new hope of a track, new minister of sport who is a racer, and who knows maybe new executive blood? |
Sorry to burst your bubble DUANE, it is all a show. while on the outside the hockey administration looks sound, it is not fact. Having played hockey for 8 yrs, any knowing all persons in and around the sport, hockey suffered from very similar symptoms to motorsport. it is only this new board that was elected in a bachanal itself that has broken a longstanding dictatorship by 1 hockey club that ruled much like TTASA.
the question is are ppl goin to stand up for them selves like the way all clubs opposed to (insert hockey club/motorsport body name here) and rejected the old controlling ways. |
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Duane 3NE 2NR TriniTuner Crew
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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^ means to an end - hockey still has support, motorsport doesn't
I'd still rather pay through my nose to race on a proper track run by some money hungry smart man dictator hitler than to moan and complain for another year with no track and no support for motorsport for the sake of what is right and wrong.
call me fed up. |
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SR Chief Cook & Instigator
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| so any update?? |
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worksux101 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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SR save those comments you made earlier...you'll likely hafta repeat them again and again in future threads like this...Karl same goes for you  |
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