Ministry holds Public Consultation for Motor Sport

SR · Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject:

MATT is the future for motorport in this country

djaggs · Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:54 pm Post subject:

MANIAC · Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:47 am Post subject:

Computerman · Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:47 am Post subject:

^^ Yes. Do you know of an alternative?

RASC · Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject:

MG Man · Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:43 pm Post subject:

they should talk to the T&T Boxing Board

worksux101 · Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject:

The point is what?
Sorry i don't seriously believe people can't undersatnd this...
1,000 people want a new administration and can, with proof, discredit the old one...not to mention they have a very viable alternative...
The original old 10 people believe they must still be in charge with nil support and nothing to back them up...

Where is the problem?

timothymcdavid · Street 2NR Joined: 31 Oct 2003 Tech posts: 48 My 2NRide:

So wait they got a NSO they got MATT ... So when they gonna start talk about home for motor sports ... or they will wait till closer to general elections to start having that conversation.

Duane 3NE 2NR · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:04 am Post subject:

^ The NSO has yet to be appointed
The decision is yet to be made by the Ministry and all involved.

pugboy · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:16 am Post subject:

to the outsider it appears that MATT is some kind of new revelation

so what kind of constitution/rules for directors etc does MATT have in the event that members disagree. fall out with each, get power hungry, horn man wife and so on ?

it is nice to talk about a new alternative and everybody happy to be on the bandwagon and behaving themselves because they trying to get rid of the old but the reality is people always gonna disagree and some people only see things their way and want to form factions within a faction

at the end of the day most people are in something only for whats in it for themselves, especially in a sport where its is all about money and ego

wagonrunner · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:45 am Post subject:

pugboy,
well seeing matt is made up of the two primary roles in each discipline.
karting, rally, solodex, etc.
and in the past, the people who make up those organisations have shown they could disagree with and still have some respect for each other. i'll give them my faith.

AutoSport · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:53 am Post subject:

To clarify and point out the simple model that MATT is, and this is so common across the board in practically all other Governing bodies, be it in Sport, Pan Trinbago, The New or Used Car Dealers Association, etc.

First there are affiliates to a major body.
They nominate from amongst themselves a Chairman / President etc.
The affiliates all have an EQUAL say in matters before them, and when necessary, they vote to resolve matters.
They were all involved in building, and continually revising the rules that govern MATT.
They are recognized by the Govt. and all matters must pass through the main body before being able to be sent to the Govt.
Issues that may not have been resolved internally by any affiliate can be appealed to the Gov. Body.
So any attempt by any affiliate to even attempt to behave in a rogue manner can be brought back on track.

At this time, we are convinced that those affiliates to MATT have gotten past the selfish
or “in something only for whats in it for themselves, especially in a sport where its is all about money and ego”.

The effort and time spent in arriving at where we are today has certainly weeded out those with less than genuine intentions.

link · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:22 pm Post subject:

SR · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject:

ah yes and here comes link ................arent you part of an organisation turned promotional company as well...............

hast TTASA been promoting thier own events for the last couple years with no accountablity for the funds collected???

why hasnt TTASA been able to respond to the then secretary Mrs Ali regarding whereabouts of unaccounted monies collected from the TTASA promoted night drag event 2 years ago....

link · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject:

worksux101 · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:15 pm Post subject:

link · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:25 pm Post subject:

no side stepping diversions until

pugboy · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:33 pm Post subject:

well from what I see its not exactly that simple and apart since the various disciplines for some are quite different as well as similar for others

eg the rally people probably not too interested in karting
whilst circuit people more than likely are the same bunch as karting
so some areas will have a lot of overlap and others little

you think the pan around the neck bands have as much say as the big pan bands in Pan Trinbago ?
clearly the overlapping groups will have similar goals(votes).....

AutoSport · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:58 pm Post subject:

Ah, so jackass Link surfaces here, refuses to answer all of the other questions posed to him over the last few months, and wants to be the chief prosecutor against all and sundry.

In case you did not know, you were a name on Tuner before, now many have been able to place a face to the rambling idiot.

And to shut you up once and for all, a lil mracle I hope for, you just refuse to acknowledge that MATT comprises 6 affiliates with 12 representatives all of whom have an equal say in all decisions made.

You just refuse to be honest in accepting that you all have repeatedly failed to honour your own costitution.

Look at the embarrassing exposure that was made re the conditions as outlined by your President in your constitution re affiliates, and what your association did in Jan. 08 by trying to give away affiliation to CARS, Karting and TTRC.

And the consistent denial by your people that TTASA never took any body to Court – go refer to this….

High Court of Justice, Sub-Registry, San Fernando No: S-1358 of 1996 – and you Link attended this matter back then, or you want to conveniently forget this.

And is dumb you want to play dumb, SR asked you to explain this “why hasnt TTASA been able to respond to the then secretary Mrs Ali regarding whereabouts of unaccounted monies collected from the TTASA promoted night drag event 2 YEARS AGO....’

And you trying to blame TTMF that stopped staging events 4 years ago.

Don’t forget, today many are now able to place a face to the rambling idiot that is Link!

link · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:55 am Post subject:

link · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:02 am Post subject:

MANIAC · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:53 am Post subject:

[quote="link
probably because of the failure of a supposed 'circuit racing promotions company' called ttmf ???[/quote]

Link ... come nah man .... If wasnt for TTMF, Circuit Racing would have never made a comeback ... watch you staring here too ...

http://www.trinituner.com/drags/2004/ttmf21-03-04.php

http://www.trinituner.com/drags/2004/ttmf06-06-04.php

http://www.trinituner.com/drags/2004/ttmf18-07-04.php

http://www.trinituner.com/drags/2004/ttmf03-10-04.php

http://www.trinituner.com/drags/2005/circuit06-03-05.php

http://www.trinituner.com/drags/2005/circuit01-05-05.php

http://www.trinituner.com/drags/2005/circuit03-07-05.php

SR · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:55 am Post subject:

Yorkshirelass · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:55 am Post subject:

Link, you know what pisses me off. This thing has been on going for years. TTASA knew when they were "given" Camden that it was only for one year. Why hasn't this wonderful TTASA presented an alternative plan? Why have they not been fighting to get the 6 disciplines that are affiliated to MATT to come on board with TTASA instead of constantly repeating the plea for land, land, land and beyotch non stop about Autosport? Why haven't TTASA stretched out a hand and said, look guys, this thing not working, what can WE (being TTASA) do to bring you on board with us? I remember a certain Trustee sitting in a MATT meeting and distinctly saying that the clause in the TTASA constitution that covers affiliate bodies was going to be removed. Why give away affiliation and then not even attept to follow up with the said affiliate disciplines to see how they are going?
Come on Link.
Rawle Mahabir (correct spelling) is only one entity in 12 on the MATT board. It is a democracy not a dictatorship. NO one body will be able to get an advantage over others. Right now, the calendars of TTKA, TTRC and CARS are not clashing. We have chosen our dates and are working to suit. Due to a change in the TTRC RT09 dates, there is a clash with a CARS date and WE (CARS) are very willing to change our date to accomodate. That's what we do, we work together.
So give up this bs, and to quote stop "being an empty vessel making the most noise".

honda hoe · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:14 pm Post subject:

why do u all even bother with link?

he's obviously immune to logic

AutoSport · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:29 pm Post subject:

I just have to continue to refer to the jackass Link and hope one day that he would respond to all the real issues thrown at him.

No response to the boldface lie that TTASA never took any one to court
No response to the affiliate issues promptly shot down by CARS, Karting and TTRC

And when I challenge them back in ’06 not to hold a wet T shirt contest when they advertising that is a FAMILY Event, they all want to shoot me when I then suggest that they have no respect for our women folk.

And when they insisted on holding the wet T shirt contest, I then tried to show them how immature and vulgar this was by suggesting that they should invite their wife and mother and daughter and sister to be the first contestants in the wet T shirt contest.

And I even went further and suggested the following positive idea instead of the wet T shirt comess:
“And maybe at the end of the racing have all of the competitors line their cars up on the grid, and invite the kids to come and meet the drivers, take pictures, and even sign autographs for the kids. Really get them involved so when they go back home they have pleasant memories and WANT to come back again. And bring more of their friends.”

The above is obviously not the direction they wanted.

So we have the likes of link still trying to be a pied piper leading his non followers to nowhere.

MANIAC · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:34 pm Post subject:

^ *duck from flying chairs* ..... Mr. Green

SR · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:41 pm Post subject:

as we on that topic maniac

What disciplinary measures were taken against Link when he threw a chair at a TTASA official after being disatisfied with a response given to him at an official TTASA meeting in couva

mind you link was under the influence of alcohol.........staggering

yet this is the same fool who wants to come and discredit people and their positive attempts for motorsports

dont forget Link is the same person who was putting up signs in central trinidad claiming the land for motrosports

even though it was the wrong piece of land

ah wonder if we still have them pics on tuner

AutoSport · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:43 pm Post subject:

^^^^^^ *duck from flying chairs* .....

Link can do that, no problem, and that also is good governance to be affiliated to!

SR · Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:46 pm Post subject:

lets talk some more accounting on TTASA's part

a few years ago when TTASA "took" over drag racing and informed autosport and its memebrs that they will now have to become FIA members to be allowed to race at wallerfield a "meeting" was held upstairs the then linx (no affiliation to LINK) restaurant where racers were told to walk with a passport size photo and pay for FIA membership

how many people who paid actually received that FIA memebrship card from that meeting

and when you ask anyone about it the first answer you get is where is your receipt

because TTASA has no record of it .................WHERE D MONEY GONE