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 Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:37 pm
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is it possible 4 u 2 unnerstan' this 
| Quote: | bigtoe Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:50 am Post subject:
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Gentlemen,
Like Mr. Lochan and more than likley countless others, I have been reading and eagerly awaiting progress, material, statutory or otherwise on this issue. To date there has effectively been nothing and that is a great let down. A let down for all who have tried and for all those in anticipation.
This is a public forum and not one that can be managed to ensure that constructive comment or discussion can be effective. As such it is largely opinionated and will serve no real purpose to the desired end.
Let's split this into three groups of people.
1- Those who have invested as much as a lifetime into a SPORT they love and seek only to enjoy the fruit of their hard work and labor.
2- Those who have a fast car and do not care where they get to race it, at whose risk or at what expence.
3- The Regulatory Body responsible to Group-1.
NOTE: There is no group that transends the boundry of own/drive and regulate.
This is for one reason and one reason only: The system and the constitution of the governing body should be robust enough to rule out the possibilities of individuality and the unrelenting human weaknesses of ego and complex.
I am not going to rehash or get into endless argument about who do what and who trying, just simply point out what the cause of all of this is and why.
Specifically to Link: I have no doubt that your best foot and fingertips are placed forward, neither do I belive that you are allowing personal motivation to get the better of you. I am convinced however that despite your best efforts you have been unable to unite anyone, group or legal entity and in that respect, while your opinion may be respected..............you have failed and should take heed that your efforts now are truly negative in effect.
To MATT:
Ever heard the saying, "Build it and they shall come". Continue on in the effort to build a management body that takes responsibility for a SPORT in a country where PEOPLE are too proud and too arrogant to learn. Be careful that you do not allow the personalities that want to race and drive whithin a budget to dilute the standards for SAFETY and create rules that favor themsleves, simply because the SYSTEM allows them to manage the SYSTEM............read that again!
To TTASA:
Everything comes to an end. Great democracy is based on bloodshed and the letting from those who need and deserve change. In all honesty and complete respect for each of the present members: it is time to give way, you have all tried and struggled and the deadlock of power, personality and ego is insurmountable. TTASA cannot manage this because there is (1) too much ego, (2) too much dishonesty in personal motivations and lastly, most importantly (3) a lack of willingless to think and rationalise about the multi disciplined nature of the sport and the PEOPLE invloved. The hardest thing to do is be passionate about something and not have the aptitude to MANAGE and even harder MANAGE PEOPLE.
WE HAVE BEEN BLEEDING, figuratively and physically. It is time to change, even if change fails, it is time to do something different. It looks like all of the active disciplines are willing to sit, meet, agree and stand united..........how that is brought together is a function of interaction between those they claim to stand in representation of and those with the regulatory means of supporting it.
The little group that desires to me named the NSO, be it either MATT or TTASA is inconsequential. They have to a governing body RUN AS A VIABLE BUSINESS and a management entity that (1) seeks the safety of the competitor, (2) seeks the advancement of the various disciplines and LASTLY (3) seeks affiliation to any governing body on an international level, it is pointless to have an affiliation to a group that does nothing to regulate on a "local" level.
It is not the responsibility of the NSO to build a track, stage, strip or any other. It is the responsibility of the NSO to create an environment and an image of stability and progress so that the PUBLIC is willing to invest in infrastructure without need for concern about risk associated with cash outlay solely because the NSO belives it is their place to "own" the sport.
The Government for reasons that I am sure are justifiable, took the "home" of Trinidad Motorsprts away from the public. It may be their moral obligation to replace it, it may be their legal obligation to replace something taken away from the people..........I do not know. However I do know that "Government" is unreliable, ineffective and motivated for personal reasons under the guise of public interest, very much the same as we are struggling against here, for reasons of inheritance or incompetence......... you decide which.
Simply to MATT: Lead on and best of luck. Learn from the mistakes of those before you and keep a dilligent eye out for dangerous personality and ego. The deals you broker are not to serve you (both as a group or an individual), they should serve the SPORT and the people within it.
To all those on this forum: There is nothing to be gained from entertaining people who have nothing to contribute. It is up to you to allow them the opportunity to do so though. Stay away from picking fights and engaging in conversation that you think is of value simply becasue you are upset.
We are all in the same boat, Link, Ainsley, Barry, you and I. We have a vested personal and financial interest and we need to work together. We need to be man enough to recoginse our place, some can lead and some can follow. The dangerous part is the part we face now, where the leaders have failed and the followers are looking around to see who will step up and take control.
Regards,
Bigtoe
PS: No need to point out the spelling mistakes |
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:20 am
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...read through the pages...alot of un-resolved issues between personalities
moving on....are there any definitive deadlines to the way forward? e.g achieve agreement by such and such date....move to next phase..etc
Is there a plan B - best intentions / goals are sometimes delayed for reasons unkown to us...
suggestion:
- e-newletter with callendar of events for all bodies under organization,family day,charity event
- safety instruction classes that would be applicable to all disciplines (basic safety) - then branch out to specific classes for respective discipline - help to minimize cost and would also allow ppl of different disciplines to meet and share knowlegde |
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wagonrunner
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:31 am
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| link wrote: | | is it possible 4 u 2 unnerstan' this |
what did you get from it?
apart from a trying to ............... |
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:34 pm
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16 cycles suggestion:
- e-newletter with callendar of events for all bodies under organization,family day,charity event
Ths is addressed in the MATT Constitution Article 21, and already being respected and adhered to.
16 cycles again - safety instruction classes that would be applicable to all disciplines (basic safety) - then branch out to specific classes for respective discipline - help to minimize cost and would also allow ppl of different disciplines to meet and share knowledge
Under Development Plans for MATT are the following
(6) Formal training for all Marshalls and Track Stewards, in safety,
fire-safety and event-specific responsibilities (for the specific disciplines).
(7) Annual Beginning-of-the-Year Motor Sport Launch
Focus on scrutineering of all cars in all disciplines.
Safety display
Fires Services display |
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:26 pm
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geez............this thread shuld have been locked on page 1 and a new one started for the theatrics 
Rawle bhai, I doh know how u never gone postal an buss cyaps in man head.........call meh when u passin prinnis tong.........beers and some archive dex vids wit you in de hatch  |
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:22 pm
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WOW.....
Guys, if you can't take advantage of this situation then motor sport in T&T will die for ever!!!!
Here is what you have:
Minister of Sport is a previous competitor (Karting & Cars).
Government wanting to spend money for the development of our sport.
The need for ONE body to represent ALL disciplines of motor sport in the country.
It's amazing, to me, that such a fantastic opportunity could be lost because of the continuing mix of ego & stupidity originating from some people who should know, by now, that they have FAILED in the administration of our sport.
This is not a new topic, the current MATT format was suggested to TTASA at one of their monthly meetings in 1997 and true to form the then committee saw it as loosing power instead of an opportunity to build motor sport.
Give it up guys......after all these years the USA has a black (sorry African American  ) President; it's time Trinidad & Tobago has an impartial and effective motor sport administration, to bring us back to the glory days of the late seventies to mid eighties.
For those of you too young to remember or with fading memories, during this period drivers from the other Caribbean islands (even the UK) came to OUR Wallerfield to test themselves against us, as we had the best circuit, best drivers, best cars and the best motor sport organizing body.
Don't blow it!!!! |
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AutoSport
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:56 pm
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Excuse me, but you are making a fundamental mistake to assume that ….
"some people who should know, by now, that they have FAILED in the administration of our sport. "
Over the years, those who have seen the dive that Motor Sport was taking have tried every practical way to open the eyes of those in charge, and have faced many different responses that have ensured that those on the outside stay on the outside.
So the next step was to deal head on with this matter... from the outside.
We are pressing on,
we will not back down,
we will continue to be as practical as possible,
we will continue to put all the facts on the table,
and not allow any individual or body to distract or derail our initiatives.
We do hope that more intelligent persons like yourself, will continue to call a spade a spade and ensure that Motor Sport gets out of the doldrums in the shortest possible time. |
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:01 am
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Seeing as we have no track in Trinidad and Tobago, a country that pulls in Billions of dollars on a monthly basis, 8 millions dollars spent on the Government's curtains,home appliances, and LCD Tv's but to build a simple piece of road a 1/4 mile long for racing seems impossible.
However we still have Drag,time attack,Drift and Rally driving capabilities that take place on the roads as you will soon see.
TTASA has not only failed but our Government as well.
This video is for TTASA and the Government thanks to our helpful friend sinister audio.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa-pgVoGRD0
TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO MOTORSPORT
Enjoy Motosport video for 2009 in Trinidad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa-pgVoGRD0 |
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