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katurbobeast · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:35 pm Post subject:

THIS IS FOR THE PROS....

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO FIT THE 4WD BPT G/BOX INTO A LASER OR BD323?

Razkal · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:25 pm Post subject:

^shud fit yuh knw...the kinda swaps and transformations goin on these days....jus find a GOOD fabrication shop..and the rest of the drivetrain from the 4WD BPT..including rear diff n axles etc....front n rear ratios supposed to match i believe...if u get that into a laser Surprised

...i wud love to see that move down the track on high boost Mr. Green

my lil advice...i cud be wrong tho...jus all i knw so far

katurbobeast · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:52 pm Post subject:

ummmmm well i was planning on using the 4wd box front-wheel and leave the driveshaft for the rear unused.

because by the looks of it, that freaking swap would involve alot of chopping and sheit.....

but someone take me up on the offer, i have the 4wd box to trade or sell...
WTF: 2 Kia Sephia BP G-series FWD boxes and axles or 2 B6T boxes w/axles.
FS: 1400

Razkal · Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:05 am Post subject:

^chop like is cane season hoss Surprised

.....nice idea but that entire 4wd swap wud be too costly and time consuming anyway.....not sure on the Fwd alone setup...dunno wha u wud do wid the transfer case n stuff Confused

...but thas just me again...maybe another 2nr cud help...

no idea bout the Sephia parts dude..sorry Neutral

fiveforward · Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:54 am Post subject:

guys a&m marketing in claxton have BP turbo for sale
saw it in the papers today.

TurboDrive · Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:30 am Post subject:

[quote="Razkal"] ...maybe another 2nr cud help...

AcousticEng. in de process of doing such a swap right now. You could ask him for advice.

Cool

mazdaspeed62 · Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:55 am Post subject:

press naes · Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:42 pm Post subject:

katurbobeast · Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:05 pm Post subject:

ok, i dont think im willing to go through all that fabrication work, to fit the 4wd box.

i need to find the new BP or KIA FWD gearbox and axles.
does anyone know if the axle splines count and the length would work on a BF323? and of course if the MX3 or 323F front brakes would work on the BF323, if it does then it would be possible to swap those brakes onto the Laser and use that drivetrain setup, because the Laser and BF323 are practically the same....

whose got any bright ideas....
i studying also to use the new B6DOHC gearbox, i know it would fit easier, the axle lengths are the same and the vented brakes from the 323F can fit onto the laser.
but where the helll do i find one of these g/boxes?
everything in the bamboo is transmission man, it sucks!!

the new BP g/boxes are suppost to be able to hanlde up to 300whp and over...

AcousticEng · Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:55 pm Post subject:

the 4WD drive box will not work FWD. the car does not move. it needs all four wheels to be on the road to get the car moving. i tried lol!! the box is not a snug fit either, the left cradle needs to be fabricated.

katurbobeast · Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:20 pm Post subject:

anyone, got annnyyy thing to say?
what happened to all the mazda fanatics out here?

welll why dont you mazda people come out at wallerfield?
i never see any 4cyl mazdas at wallers...
thats really disappointing... Confused

i start my swap in christmas holidays, should finish it within 2weeks...hopefully things change by then...
so I'd have some Mazdas to run with... Twisted Evil

i'll take pics of all the interchanges and mechanical swaps i do, to post it as a sticky thread for references...

press naes · 9/18/05, represent!!!

Acoustic, Five...like allyuh get call out!

TurboDrive · Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:38 am Post subject:

Fellas I want to service my transmission. Where can I get it done reliably ? Neutral

AcousticEng · 9/18/05, represent!!!

AcousticEng · Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject:

mr. katurboboost - what are u really trying to do. i am a little confused. are u building a new model BP NA without ECU and harness OR a BPT with a 4wd drivetrain?? the only way to know if Kia axles and gearboxes will work is to physically go with your parts and match them.

As i was telling five forward d other day, getting into performance engines, there will be problems, but i take problems as challenges to learn something new.

here are your options:

if u can find it BPT with the B6T axles and gearbox. it might break, but remember it also depends on how u drive. if u peel tires everywhere your crown gear will get worn. its the best option

B5, B6 NA and Kia might work BUT it will break - it was made to carry a family of 5 to the beach at 80km/h

what u tink??

katurbobeast · Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:00 pm Post subject:

dude, first i've got a NA BP and a BPT.....the BPT is complete with a 4wd box, and the NA BP has no ECU neither g/box.
im using the BPT pistons, con-rods and manifolds; on the new BP cylhead and block, along with BPT dizzy and ECU.

some KIA sephia come with the BP, and its the same as the Mazda BP. the new G-series gearbox is known too handle up to over 300hp, i have a vid to prove it...
ever seen the familia from Puerto Rico...

i wont mind using the B6T g/box and axles, but when u can find one, you'd let me know!!!
the newer BP g/box would be easier to get, it has less wear and tear and im sure it would work out well!
but its just pressure to get either one....anyhow...

depending on how my search goes, if push comes to shove, im going to have to settle with something else, to at least get the car on the road to drive...

BTW how does this sound....for 2300 i can get a B6D hydraulic box w/axles, clutch & PP, and all the linkage...from the BJ series....is that too much?

press naes · Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 12:20 pm Post subject:

Yo Team Renesis, I just got some news that one of our crew, Christopher Ramrattan passed away last night. My condolences goes out to his family at this time and may God give them the strength to carry on.

Rest in peace, Chris.

Team Renesis Mazda 2NRs, please contact AcousticEng ASAP.

TurboDrive · Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject:

My condolences to the family of Chris. R.I.P. Bro.
Press how did he die? Sad

AcousticEng · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:44 am Post subject:

he got in an accident by solo there. He and his Familia RSS will be missed. the car rightoff.

Razkal · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:33 am Post subject:

..my god wish i'd have known yesterday was in mayaro Sad

condolences to his family...never met the guy but sure he was one of the best Cool

school them zoom-zoom style in the afterlife man Cool

AcousticEng · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:40 pm Post subject:

if its anything fellas we going chris wake at 9 tonight. everybody meet up by me.

Computerman · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:40 pm Post subject:

TurboDrive · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:44 am Post subject:

I saw the car in the papers yesterday. It was busted open man. Reah sad. Any news other person in the car? How is she doing? Acoustic I wasnt online yesterday or else I woulda called ya. When is the funeral?

Computerman · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject:

^^ Anyone with an update?
AcousticEng, did you go Monday night?

neckto · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:57 pm Post subject:

fellas i mazda too
to the pros
i want to swap my stock engine but i don't know much about what's oout there for mazda and the best options i wes lookinng to do this awhile ago but the funds was a rob so i thinking bout it again
pllease lemme know wah you all suggest remember cost is a factor and it cant be down too long as it's my daily driver if you all know of any nice deals at presen also that would be apreciate or where to look too the car is a (PAY) 323 glx
thanks
contact 684-3260 if anything

Computerman · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject:

Well neckto tell us what you'd like to do to it? Manual or Auto? Turbo or non-turbo? 1.6 or 2.0 (2.2 might be too much Very Happy

)?

If it's gonna be a daily driver you might want to consider ease of driving and driver comfort before anything else. I recently re-built by E5 (second time in 13 years)...but it seems to be alright for the while. Eventually I hope to get a BPT 1.6 or somthing similar. Twisted Evil

blue_toothbrush · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:33 pm Post subject:

was jus wonderin swapping a 323F 95' engine for a BPT and changing d car to manual also. wha ah go need to do it? and how much it will cost for installation.
HOw umuch d BPT engines is go for?

d BPT cud beat a stock SIR? or a stock sr20?????????????????????????????????????

katurbobeast · Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:03 am Post subject:

the BPT can make the same power output as an sr20det...

blue_toothbrush · Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:13 am Post subject:

^^^are you serious? so you are saying that a BPT engine in a lets say 323f 95 . will beat a S15 ...BOTH STOCK(S15 comes with a black top sr20det.

Question

Computerman · Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject:

I think the BPT 1.6 is around 10K, if you can find them. If you can get a 1.8 let me know please! Very Happy

The mods and installation might run around 5K. But i'd be safe to budget a cool 20K for the project....don't forget to upgrade the brakes as necessary.