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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:50 pm
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'Rubens could be the biggest loser in liargate'
Monday 13th April 2009

Rubens Barrichello could be the biggest loser should McLaren be banned by the WMSC, as there's speculation in the British media that Lewis Hamilton could then take his race-seat.

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5182869,00.html
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:59 pm
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great article...

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3261_5185098,00.html

F1 Drivers Are Perennial Liars
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:32 am
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^^ sounds a lil hamilton fan boyish to me. I agree that the matter should be done with but other than that not a very good article.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:14 pm
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nah, am def not a hamilton fan, just thought the article was great cuz it looked at the issue from a bigger perspective
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:29 am
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the diffusers are legal

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12433_5190760,00.html
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"The FIA International Court of Appeal has decided to deny the appeals submitted against decisions numbered 16 to 24 taken by the Panel of the Stewards on March 26 at the Australian Grand Prix and counting towards the 2009 FIA Formula One World Championship.

"Based on the arguments heard and evidence before it, the court concluded that the stewards were correct to find that the cars in question comply with the applicable regulations.

"Full reasons for this decision will be provided in due course."


It was the best outcome for the sport in my view
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:38 am
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hmmm wha go happen to brawn points now...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:41 am
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well its now everybody rushing to get their diffuser on...am glad they got the green light for it, any kind of innovation of that type should be encouraged and the rest of the field has to play catch up now and if it was deemedto be illegal...you could imagine the bacchanal that would have caused!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:01 am
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hmmm wha go happen to brawn points now...

Its legal so they'll keep them...
Time for Ferrari, McLaren and co to start developing theirs...
RBR have already started, and God help the rest of the teams if it works...they're already as fast as Brawn and Toyota without them...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:04 am
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snap i read illegal lol

is about time redbull started to win thou

hammi have his work cut out for him this year
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:45 am
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I sure the rest of the teams have started development on their diffusers since Brawn had theirs out..just a matter of time before we see them on.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:58 am
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I sure the rest of the teams have started development on their diffusers since Brawn had theirs out..just a matter of time before we see them on.


well ferarri's on it

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"Unfortunately this decision forces us to intervene on fundamental areas of the car's design in order to be able to compete on an equal footing with some of the teams from a point of view of the technical regulations,” said team principal Stefano Domenicali. “And that will take time and money.”

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/4/9177.html

I say by Bahrain they (ferrari) will be introducing a new diffuser,
Although, according to F Alonso
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But Alonso says that of the diffuser is cleared as legal then the other seven teams will struggle to challenge for the drivers' or constructors' titles.

"We'll have to see what they (the judges) decide," said Alonso. "It's a complicated issue, but the championship could be more or less decided.

"If the diffusers are legal, the Brawns are going to be nearly unreachable for any other team."

The problem for the others teams is that a re-designed diffuser would have a huge effect on the car, and would take too long to incorporate.

"You have to work on the whole car," Alonso explained. "It's not just about adding the diffuser and suddenly the car is a second quicker.

"The diffuser makes you go fast if you have a new front end, new sidepods, a new engine cover.

"You have to rebuild the whole car, and that would take a lot of months."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12433_5186754,00.html
first time i ever recall him making a sensible statement
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:32 am
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^Not necessarily...i'm sure the teams have all made contingency plans since Day 1 of testing should it have been deemed legal...
Rumour in the Ferrari camp after the Aussie race was that it would be made ready at the first or second race when the series hits Europe...i'm sure Renault, BMW and McLaren would be the same as all of those companies have their bases in Europe...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:33 am
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teems1 wrote:
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Not Whitmarsh

Dave Ryan was put as the scapegoat in this entire fiasco. McLaren have offically cut all ties with him.
Sorry mixed them up...i stand corrected Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:59 am
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this weekends GP China could be sweet seeing as most of the confusion behind the teams now with regards to the diffusers...
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diffusers were deemed legal

BGP gonna win driver's and constructor's ezy pzy
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:41 pm
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diffusers were deemed legal

BGP gonna win driver's and constructor's ezy pzy


still to early to make that prediction.
with money come great expectation and SUCCESS.
Expect a Ferrari-McLaren come back and real soon.
I still saying Bahrain
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:46 pm
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diffusers were deemed legal

BGP gonna win driver's and constructor's ezy pzy


err...wheh yu come out from?....leh meh see yuh ticket stub....(grab...)

see? this is movie towne......not Monarch...head back up d road!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:52 am
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another one bites the dust

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12433_5194454,00.html

I hope for Mc Laren's sake Hamilton is worth it
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:30 am
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^He's not...they're just too tainted atm...first the stepney issue and now this...by the same individuals...McLaren are going to need a massive restructuring soon...and even with i'm sure Hamilton will jump ship when he can to go to a more competitive team, regardless of all the comments he made about "McLaren for life"
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:12 am
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dmitc wrote:
another one bites the dust

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12433_5194454,00.html

I hope for Mc Laren's sake Hamilton is worth it


He handed over most of his F1 team principal duties to Martin Whitmarsh before the 09 season even started anyway, he was ready to leave F1.

Almost 30 years of having to put up with Bernie/Max and the blatant bias the FIA has against McLaren would send anyone crazy.

Him taking the fall for the liargate scandal could be his last favour to the F1 team.

and @ Banzai... iz National you have to send me hoss... Monarch too frikkin scary...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:26 am
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k so practise yesterday went well,

buttons till managed to pull off fastest time of the day ins session 2.

mclaren tested their new rare diffusers out and seem to be keeping better pace.

cant wait for sunday morning Mr. Green

and i think massa doesnt have kers anymore, kimmi's got it in his car now i think (can someone comfirmm?)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:17 am
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Ferrari
Felipe Massa: "We are in a difficult situation on the technical front, but when one thinks of what happened to those who we are close to and in the daily life of the people of Abruzzo, everything else takes on a different perspective. I hope that having the Abruzzo nel cuore message on the cars, as requested by President Montezemolo, might help to make these people feel less alone. As for the track, I can say our fight for the championship is ever more compromised. Here we are also running without KERS and as a result, we are losing even more performance, in addition to not having as much aerodynamic downforce as the best cars. We must try and push as hard as possible on the development of the car, but we know it will be very hard to catch up. The only recipe for getting out of this difficulty is to work."


Kimi Raikkonen: "The balance of the car isn't bad and one doesn't feel the lack of KERS. The point is that we are too slow compared to the teams currently at the top of the order. We must try and improve the car: at the moment, we are not able to fight for the title. We must not give up the fight because, with the whole team working hard, we can get back into a winning position. It's not an easy time, but our group is strong and we know what needs to be done to get out of this situation. The softer tyre seems to work better than it did in Australia."


based on those quotes seems that both are without KERS, also a big difference in opinion between Massa and Kini regarding driving without KERS
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:52 am
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Ferrari stated before this weekend that they would not be using KERS...

Kimi's car was the one that had all the KERS problems in the first 2 races so maybe that's why he doesn't feel the difference much...handled very professionally though...
Wonder when they will bring their diffuser to the table as well...McLaren have already done poorly with it...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:11 am
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SEBASTIAN VETTEL TAKES POLE FOR RED BULL
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:36 am
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nice race ahead, esp with Hammi and Kimi lining up next to each other. Congrats to Vettel (p1) and Webber (p3), but Alonso (p2) IMHO is presently one of the best or possibly the best driver in F1.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:27 am
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^While i agree he's done wonders manhandling that career...he's easily the lightest car on the grid...both Ferrari and McLaren have elected to run very heavy!
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^true that, however, without taking fuel load into consideration and comparing his performance to that of his teammate, he's really shown to be superior to many.
I just admire the things that the underdogs have done so far this season, with and without diffusers.
Though some of the rule changes were said to be a backward step, it has really made this season so much more competitive and interesting than the past.
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Stocking up on food etc. for tonight...should be a good race, esp at the start...barring any safety car periods, pit strategy could play a major role in this one...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:35 am
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was unfortunate that they had to start under the safety car
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race going good so far....massa and trulli out....hami kers working...passing everyone, then throwing it away..repeat...
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