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JoKeR1980 Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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'Rubens could be the biggest loser in liargate'
Monday 13th April 2009
Rubens Barrichello could be the biggest loser should McLaren be banned by the WMSC, as there's speculation in the British media that Lewis Hamilton could then take his race-seat.
http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5182869,00.html |
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JoKeR1980 Sweet on this forum
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dmitc Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| ^^ sounds a lil hamilton fan boyish to me. I agree that the matter should be done with but other than that not a very good article. |
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JoKeR1980 Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| nah, am def not a hamilton fan, just thought the article was great cuz it looked at the issue from a bigger perspective |
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dmitc Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:29 am Post subject: |
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the diffusers are legal
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12433_5190760,00.html
| Quote: | "The FIA International Court of Appeal has decided to deny the appeals submitted against decisions numbered 16 to 24 taken by the Panel of the Stewards on March 26 at the Australian Grand Prix and counting towards the 2009 FIA Formula One World Championship.
"Based on the arguments heard and evidence before it, the court concluded that the stewards were correct to find that the cars in question comply with the applicable regulations.
"Full reasons for this decision will be provided in due course." |
It was the best outcome for the sport in my view |
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MadCrix 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| hmmm wha go happen to brawn points now... |
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JoKeR1980 Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| well its now everybody rushing to get their diffuser on...am glad they got the green light for it, any kind of innovation of that type should be encouraged and the rest of the field has to play catch up now and if it was deemedto be illegal...you could imagine the bacchanal that would have caused! |
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worksux101 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:01 am Post subject: |
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hmmm wha go happen to brawn points now...
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Its legal so they'll keep them...
Time for Ferrari, McLaren and co to start developing theirs...
RBR have already started, and God help the rest of the teams if it works...they're already as fast as Brawn and Toyota without them... |
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MadCrix 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:04 am Post subject: |
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snap i read illegal lol
is about time redbull started to win thou
hammi have his work cut out for him this year |
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Maserati TriniTuner vip
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:45 am Post subject: |
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| I sure the rest of the teams have started development on their diffusers since Brawn had theirs out..just a matter of time before we see them on. |
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dmitc Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| Maserati wrote: | | I sure the rest of the teams have started development on their diffusers since Brawn had theirs out..just a matter of time before we see them on. |
well ferarri's on it
| Quote: | "Unfortunately this decision forces us to intervene on fundamental areas of the car's design in order to be able to compete on an equal footing with some of the teams from a point of view of the technical regulations,” said team principal Stefano Domenicali. “And that will take time and money.”
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http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/4/9177.html
I say by Bahrain they (ferrari) will be introducing a new diffuser,
Although, according to F Alonso
| Quote: | But Alonso says that of the diffuser is cleared as legal then the other seven teams will struggle to challenge for the drivers' or constructors' titles.
"We'll have to see what they (the judges) decide," said Alonso. "It's a complicated issue, but the championship could be more or less decided.
"If the diffusers are legal, the Brawns are going to be nearly unreachable for any other team."
The problem for the others teams is that a re-designed diffuser would have a huge effect on the car, and would take too long to incorporate.
"You have to work on the whole car," Alonso explained. "It's not just about adding the diffuser and suddenly the car is a second quicker.
"The diffuser makes you go fast if you have a new front end, new sidepods, a new engine cover.
"You have to rebuild the whole car, and that would take a lot of months."
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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12433_5186754,00.html
first time i ever recall him making a sensible statement |
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worksux101 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:32 am Post subject: |
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^Not necessarily...i'm sure the teams have all made contingency plans since Day 1 of testing should it have been deemed legal...
Rumour in the Ferrari camp after the Aussie race was that it would be made ready at the first or second race when the series hits Europe...i'm sure Renault, BMW and McLaren would be the same as all of those companies have their bases in Europe... |
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worksux101 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| teems1 wrote: | ^^
Not Whitmarsh
Dave Ryan was put as the scapegoat in this entire fiasco. McLaren have offically cut all ties with him. | Sorry mixed them up...i stand corrected  |
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noshownogo I LUV THIS PLACE
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| this weekends GP China could be sweet seeing as most of the confusion behind the teams now with regards to the diffusers... |
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teems1 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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diffusers were deemed legal
BGP gonna win driver's and constructor's ezy pzy |
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dmitc Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| teems1 wrote: | diffusers were deemed legal
BGP gonna win driver's and constructor's ezy pzy |
still to early to make that prediction.
with money come great expectation and SUCCESS.
Expect a Ferrari-McLaren come back and real soon.
I still saying Bahrain |
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BANzai Rastafarai 2NR MILF Hunter
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| teems1 wrote: | diffusers were deemed legal
BGP gonna win driver's and constructor's ezy pzy |
err...wheh yu come out from?....leh meh see yuh ticket stub....(grab...)
see? this is movie towne......not Monarch...head back up d road!!!! |
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dmitc Chronic TriniTuner
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worksux101 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| ^He's not...they're just too tainted atm...first the stepney issue and now this...by the same individuals...McLaren are going to need a massive restructuring soon...and even with i'm sure Hamilton will jump ship when he can to go to a more competitive team, regardless of all the comments he made about "McLaren for life" |
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teems1 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:12 am Post subject: |
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He handed over most of his F1 team principal duties to Martin Whitmarsh before the 09 season even started anyway, he was ready to leave F1.
Almost 30 years of having to put up with Bernie/Max and the blatant bias the FIA has against McLaren would send anyone crazy.
Him taking the fall for the liargate scandal could be his last favour to the F1 team.
and @ Banzai... iz National you have to send me hoss... Monarch too frikkin scary... |
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Freelander I LUV THIS PLACE
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:26 am Post subject: |
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k so practise yesterday went well,
buttons till managed to pull off fastest time of the day ins session 2.
mclaren tested their new rare diffusers out and seem to be keeping better pace.
cant wait for sunday morning
and i think massa doesnt have kers anymore, kimmi's got it in his car now i think (can someone comfirmm?) |
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JoKeR1980 Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Ferrari
Felipe Massa: "We are in a difficult situation on the technical front, but when one thinks of what happened to those who we are close to and in the daily life of the people of Abruzzo, everything else takes on a different perspective. I hope that having the Abruzzo nel cuore message on the cars, as requested by President Montezemolo, might help to make these people feel less alone. As for the track, I can say our fight for the championship is ever more compromised. Here we are also running without KERS and as a result, we are losing even more performance, in addition to not having as much aerodynamic downforce as the best cars. We must try and push as hard as possible on the development of the car, but we know it will be very hard to catch up. The only recipe for getting out of this difficulty is to work."
Kimi Raikkonen: "The balance of the car isn't bad and one doesn't feel the lack of KERS. The point is that we are too slow compared to the teams currently at the top of the order. We must try and improve the car: at the moment, we are not able to fight for the title. We must not give up the fight because, with the whole team working hard, we can get back into a winning position. It's not an easy time, but our group is strong and we know what needs to be done to get out of this situation. The softer tyre seems to work better than it did in Australia."
based on those quotes seems that both are without KERS, also a big difference in opinion between Massa and Kini regarding driving without KERS |
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worksux101 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:52 am Post subject: |
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Ferrari stated before this weekend that they would not be using KERS...
Kimi's car was the one that had all the KERS problems in the first 2 races so maybe that's why he doesn't feel the difference much...handled very professionally though...
Wonder when they will bring their diffuser to the table as well...McLaren have already done poorly with it... |
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Maserati TriniTuner vip
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:11 am Post subject: |
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| SEBASTIAN VETTEL TAKES POLE FOR RED BULL |
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Richard TriniTuner 24-7
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:36 am Post subject: |
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| nice race ahead, esp with Hammi and Kimi lining up next to each other. Congrats to Vettel (p1) and Webber (p3), but Alonso (p2) IMHO is presently one of the best or possibly the best driver in F1. |
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worksux101 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| ^While i agree he's done wonders manhandling that career...he's easily the lightest car on the grid...both Ferrari and McLaren have elected to run very heavy! |
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Richard TriniTuner 24-7
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:14 am Post subject: |
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^true that, however, without taking fuel load into consideration and comparing his performance to that of his teammate, he's really shown to be superior to many.
I just admire the things that the underdogs have done so far this season, with and without diffusers.
Though some of the rule changes were said to be a backward step, it has really made this season so much more competitive and interesting than the past. |
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worksux101 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Stocking up on food etc. for tonight...should be a good race, esp at the start...barring any safety car periods, pit strategy could play a major role in this one... |
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:35 am Post subject: |
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| was unfortunate that they had to start under the safety car |
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worksux101 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| race going good so far....massa and trulli out....hami kers working...passing everyone, then throwing it away..repeat... |
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