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worksux101 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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^That's why i used inverted commas bro...
Its not a cheat per se, but most of the teams percieve at as such, so around most F1 forums and sites you'll see fans and journalists referring to it as the 'cheat' diffuser! |
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teems1 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Press Release
World Motor Sport Council 07/04/2009
EXTRAORDINARY MEETING OF THE
WORLD MOTOR SPORT COUNCIL
Vodafone McLaren Mercedes has been invited to appear before an extraordinary meeting of the FIA World Motor Sport Council in Paris on Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, to answer charges that, in breach of Article 151c of the International Sporting Code, it
* on 29 March, 2009, told the stewards of the Australian Grand Prix that no instructions were given to Hamilton in Car No. 1 to allow Trulli in Car no. 9 to pass when both cars were behind the safety car, knowing this statement to be untrue;
* procured its driver Hamilton the current World Champion, to support and confirm this untrue statement to the stewards;
* although knowing that as a direct result of its untrue statement to the stewards, another driver and a rival team had been unfairly penalised, made no attempt to rectify the situation either by contacting the FIA or otherwise;
* on 2 April, 2009, at a second hearing before the stewards of the Australian Grand Prix, (meeting in Malaysia) made no attempt to correct the untrue statement of 29 March but, on the contrary, continued to maintain that the statement was true, despite being allowed to listen to a recording of the team instructing Hamilton to let Trulli past and despite being given more than one opportunity to correct its false statement;
* on 2 April, 2009, at the second stewards' hearing, procured its driver Hamilton to continue to assert the truth of the false statement given to the stewards on 29 March, while knowing that what he was saying to the stewards was not true.
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/me...c/2009/Pages/wmsc_ex.aspx |
not good news...
its possible for the FIA to throw McLaren out the 2009 season... |
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worksux101 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see it...McLaren has too large a fan base, and the Stepneygate was a much bigger scandal....that said the combination of the both could really be a big problem for them?
Btw anyone else thinks Whitmarsh bit the bullet for Hamilton? Based on the radio transmission, it seems that hamilton was really pushing to get back that spot anyway he could... |
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teems1 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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^^
Not Whitmarsh
Dave Ryan was put as the scapegoat in this entire fiasco. McLaren have offically cut all ties with him. |
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Maserati TriniTuner vip
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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if they kick mclaren out that will really hurt f1 IMHO alot of people are of the view that the FIA victimizes them (from what I've read on other forums)
and as Peds said they have a large fan base, esp. alot of brits. due to Hammy being there. |
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dmitc Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| worksux101 wrote: | ^That's why i used inverted commas bro...
Its not a cheat per se, but most of the teams percieve at as such, so around most F1 forums and sites you'll see fans and journalists referring to it as the 'cheat' diffuser! |
my apologies for misquoting you.
i was unaware that this is what it's being called at present.
as for McLaren being kicked out, it's not going to happen. Bernie is not going to let anything adversly affect his bottom line |
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noshownogo I LUV THIS PLACE
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Lewis Hamilton's future with McLaren said to be in doubt
Is Lewis Hamilton really on his way out at McLaren? The Daily Mail think it's a definite possibility. It seems the reigning World Champion still has some issues with his team after the so-called "Liargate" scandal robbed him of his hard-fought third-place finish in the season opener at Melbourne. We explained that scandal in our earlier post about the race, but briefly, Hamilton was allegedly told how to answer post-race questions about a safety-car passing incident by McLaren sporting director Dave Ryan. The team was found guilty of deliberately misleading the race stewards. Ryan was subsequently suspended and Lewis had all of his points taken away after offering an emotional public apology.
Normally, that would be that, but after another disappointing race in Malaysia, it seems Lewis and his manager/father Anthony are asking McLaren for a meeting. Speculation is that Hamilton may be asking for an early release from his contract -- if not immediately, than possibly at the end of the season. The Hamiltons are apparently concerned that the champion's personal reputation has been sullied as a result of the team's recent scandals. Anthony maintains that Lewis was merely following team orders, defying his own moral code in taking Ryan's advice. He adds that contractual obligations prevented Lewis from offering the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth when interviewed by the stewards. The fact that McLaren still faces further sanctions from the incident (including the possible suspension of team boss Martin Whitmarsh) could mean that Hamilton has more leverage in his negotiations.
If Hamilton does get out of his five-year contract, one scenario has him going to Ferrari, who is struggling even more than McLaren this season. We'd wager on Brawn GP making a bid, along with just about every other team as well.
Source: http://www.autoblog.com/200...aren-said-to-be-in-doubt/ |
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JoKeR1980 Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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let him go renault!  |
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teems1 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| JoKeR1980 wrote: | let him go renault!  |
rite...
cuz Alonso really wants Hammy as a teammate again... |
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JoKeR1980 Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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lol yeah...F1 is just bacchanal these days so why not stir it up a bit more!
but look how everybody forget about mosely and his 'extracurricular' activities lol |
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MG Man 2NRholic
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I for one would love to see hammy move to another team and see what happens |
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BANzai Rastafarai 2NR MILF Hunter
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| MG Man wrote: | | I for one would love to see hammy move to another team and see what happens |
wah....for you to go bonkers when he starts to win in the othe car?.....(snuggels up close to him...) can you see Hammie and MAssa on the same team?....mmmmm?.....eh MG poooh? |
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MG Man 2NRholic
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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bring it on buddy
your boy's true character will keep playing itself out |
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BANzai Rastafarai 2NR MILF Hunter
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| MG Man wrote: | bring it on buddy
your boy's true character will keep playing itself out |
hahhahaahah his true character?....he's a godo driver...but he's spoilt..t.his we know..iteh have nutten else to play orf.....gone are the days of "F1 being a Gentleman's sport"....long gone.....its all about bootm lines and points now...
i mean...Hammie showed it in yr one with Alonso...Alonso allowed the black Ma sheit yo mouf!! SLAP!!) to get the better of him...but it is what it is....yr two...his running mate was basically ordered to "not forque up" the points standings....
(walks away snickering..."True Character" .....hahahhahaaahaaaa) |
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MG Man 2NRholic
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| he is an average driver |
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BANzai Rastafarai 2NR MILF Hunter
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| MG Man wrote: | | he is an average driver |
yup....annoying isnt?
BT ah find yuh stop calling meh since F1 start.....de forque?....the cooliness start back inna yu system?
try yuh bess eh!!!
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MG Man 2NRholic
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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don't you have ah BRITISH car to wash this weekend?  |
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teems1 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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^^ one big go cart.....gimme meh DAtsun 180B with Finger tip yes!!
i liked the frist 40 seconds of th vid...how the techincal team was asserting if the helmet cam wud affect performance and weight.... |
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MG Man 2NRholic
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| clutch and manually shifting gearbox FTW |
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JoKeR1980 Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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'Rubens could be the biggest loser in liargate'
Monday 13th April 2009
Rubens Barrichello could be the biggest loser should McLaren be banned by the WMSC, as there's speculation in the British media that Lewis Hamilton could then take his race-seat.
http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5182869,00.html |
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JoKeR1980 Sweet on this forum
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dmitc Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| ^^ sounds a lil hamilton fan boyish to me. I agree that the matter should be done with but other than that not a very good article. |
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JoKeR1980 Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| nah, am def not a hamilton fan, just thought the article was great cuz it looked at the issue from a bigger perspective |
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dmitc Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:29 am Post subject: |
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the diffusers are legal
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12433_5190760,00.html
| Quote: | "The FIA International Court of Appeal has decided to deny the appeals submitted against decisions numbered 16 to 24 taken by the Panel of the Stewards on March 26 at the Australian Grand Prix and counting towards the 2009 FIA Formula One World Championship.
"Based on the arguments heard and evidence before it, the court concluded that the stewards were correct to find that the cars in question comply with the applicable regulations.
"Full reasons for this decision will be provided in due course." |
It was the best outcome for the sport in my view |
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| hmmm wha go happen to brawn points now... |
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JoKeR1980 Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| well its now everybody rushing to get their diffuser on...am glad they got the green light for it, any kind of innovation of that type should be encouraged and the rest of the field has to play catch up now and if it was deemedto be illegal...you could imagine the bacchanal that would have caused! |
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worksux101 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:01 am Post subject: |
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hmmm wha go happen to brawn points now...
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Its legal so they'll keep them...
Time for Ferrari, McLaren and co to start developing theirs...
RBR have already started, and God help the rest of the teams if it works...they're already as fast as Brawn and Toyota without them... |
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MadCrix 3NE 2NR Moderator
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:04 am Post subject: |
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snap i read illegal lol
is about time redbull started to win thou
hammi have his work cut out for him this year |
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:45 am Post subject: |
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| I sure the rest of the teams have started development on their diffusers since Brawn had theirs out..just a matter of time before we see them on. |
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