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 Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:56 pm
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Well guess now is a good time as any to start up this thread.
Quite a few changes have been made.
and fork you FIA for taking away Montreal, and as a result dashing my hopes of attending an F1 race in 2009 
Anyhow these are the cost cutting measures
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Engine
Engine life to be doubled. Each driver will use a maximum of eight engines for the season plus four for testing (thus 20 per team).
Limit of 18,000 rpm.
No internal re-tuning. Adjustment to trumpets and injectors only.
The three-race rule voted on 5 November remains in force.
Cost of engines to independent teams will be approximately 50% of 2008 prices.
Unanimous agreement was reached on a list of proposed changes to the Renault engine for 2009; all other engines will remain unchanged. Comparative testing will not be necessary.
Testing
No in-season testing except during race weekend during scheduled practice.
Aerodynamic research
No wind tunnel exceeding 60% scale and 50 metres/sec to be used after 1 January 2009.
A formula to balance wind tunnel-based research against CFD research, if agreed between the teams, will be proposed to the FIA.
Factory activity
Factory closures for six weeks per year, to accord with local laws.
Race weekend
Manpower to be reduced by means of a number of measures, including sharing information on tyres and fuel to eliminate the need for "spotters".
Sporting spectacle
Market research is being conducted to gauge the public reaction to a number of new ideas, including possible changes to qualifying and a proposal for the substitution of medals for points for the drivers. Proposals will be submitted to the FIA when the results of the market research are known.
Note: It is estimated that these changes for 2009 will save the manufacturer teams approximately 30% of their budgets compared to 2008, while the savings for independent teams will be even greater.
2010
Power train
Engines will be available to the independent teams for less than €5 million per team per season. These will either come from an independent supplier or be supplied by the manufacturer teams backed by guarantees of continuity. If an independent supplier, the deal will be signed no later than 20 December 2008.
This same engine will continue to be used in 2011 and 2012 (thus no new engine for 2011).
Subject to confirmation of practicability, the same transmission will be used by all teams.
Chassis
A list of all elements of the chassis will be prepared and a decision taken in respect of each element as to whether or not it will remain a performance differentiator (competitive element).
Some elements which remain performance differentiators will be homologated for the season.
Some elements will remain performance differentiators, but use inexpensive materials.
Elements which are not performance differentiators will be prescriptive and be obtained or manufactured in the most economical possible way.
Race weekend
Standardised radio and telemetry systems.
Ban on tyre warmers.
Ban on mechanical purging of tyres.
Ban on refueling.
Possible reduction in race distance or duration (proposal to follow market research).
Factory activity
Further restrictions on aerodynamic research.
Ban on tyre force rigs (other than vertical force rigs).
Full analysis of factory facilities with a view to proposing further restrictions on facilities.
Longer term
The FIA and FOTA will study the possibility of an entirely new power train for 2013 based on energy efficiency (obtaining more work from less energy consumed). Rules to be framed so as to ensure that research and development of such a power train would make a real contribution to energy-efficient road transport.
An enhanced Kinetic Energy Recovery System (KERS) system is likely to be a very significant element of an energy-efficient power train in the future. In the short term, KERS is part of the 2009 regulations, but is not compulsory. For 2010 FOTA is considering proposals for a standard KERS system. The FIA awaits proposals.
A number of further amendments were adopted for the 2009 and 2010 Sporting and Technical Regulations. |
good read here as well http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7773326.stm
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:59 pm
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A lil preview from Swifted how cars could look next season
| Swifted wrote: | the look of F1 in 2009
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and the WRC King himself!
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:22 pm
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| hmmmm look retro...like 1983 retro.......tis will be a good season...(buys flame suit fro mearly..).....WEH PEDS?!?! And that non religions skunk MG MAN??? |
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:49 pm
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| Lewis Hamilton is a pansy |
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:59 pm
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| MG Man wrote: | | Lewis Hamilton is a pansy |
and yet....and YET!! (OLE OLE OLE OLE!!!) |
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:41 pm
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and yet he continues to maintain that dotish grin  |
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:21 pm
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| if toyota doesnt pull out of F1 i hope they have a good season in 09 |
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:40 pm
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Race weekend
Ban on tyre warmers.
Ban on mechanical purging of tyres.
Ban on refueling.
Possible reduction in race distance or duration (proposal to follow market research).
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These hafta be the dumbest set of ideas i've ever seen...wtf they're killing the sport....f$%&*%^&$&(^(&%*^$&$&$&*^ |
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:16 am
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calm down skippy
the old days of no refuelling added some interesting twists to many a good race. I still say the best thing for F1 is a return to a proper clutch and shifter |
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:07 am
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no tyre warmers....i see many drivers checking the kitty litter after pitstops.
wait!! pitstops not banned too right?   |
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:44 am
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^Ent...might as well get rid of the entire pit lane soon enough...pull the car out of the trailer and drive... 
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I still say the best thing for F1 is a return to a proper clutch and shifter
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apparnetly that doesnt cut costs enough |
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:01 am
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true
blown engines from missed downshifts are expensive
As long as they don't throw in NASCAR-style cautions |
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:28 pm
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meanwhile...........  |
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:42 pm
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| wtf u want, Puffy? |
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:37 pm
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| MG Man wrote: | calm down skippy
the old days of no refuelling added some interesting twists to many a good race. I still say the best thing for F1 is a return to a proper clutch and shifter |
...wat...like a shifter cart??
drum brakes too ent
but with all the changes in packages...don't u spend more money in developing new stuff?
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:21 pm
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sorry to say but we can safely see the F1 not moving forward
gone was the v12, v10 just now they wil be going around in circles with only left turns because it is more efficient |
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:43 am
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| MG Man wrote: | | wtf u want, Puffy? |
WAIT!! IS PUFFY YU JSU CALL ME YOU SECRET JESUS LOVER? |
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:23 am
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| should be renamed formula 2 until the depression ends. |
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Mexican billionaire rescues Honda F1 team
ROME (AFP) — Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim, the world's second richest man, has rescued the Honda Formula One team, Italian newspaper La Stampa reported on Saturday.
"The saviour has arrived: Carlos Slim, 67 years old, the second richest man in the world," said the newspaper.
"The news is not official as all the details have yet to be formalised. But two things are certain - the team has been saved and the drivers will be Jenson Button and rookie Bruno Senna in place of Rubens Barrichello."
Honda, believed to have an annual racing budget of around 400 million dollars, announced earlier this month that they were pulling out of Formula One as a result of the global financial meltdown.
La Stampa, which did not identify the source of its story, added that Bruno Senna, the nephew of former triple world champion Ayrton Senna, is sponsored by Embratel, part of Slim's Telmex group.
Honda first competed in F1 in 1964 and clocked up three Grand Prix wins, including Jenson Button's in Hungary in 2006.
Its engines were also been behind dozens of victories by stars such as Nelson Piquet, Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost.
The team finished ninth in the constructors championship this season with 14 points.
Veteran driver Barrichello achieved the team's best result with a third-place finish at Silverstone.
Honda Motor also supplied engines and other technical support to Formula One team Super Aguri, which called it quits due to financial problems in May.
Motorsport in Japan had been particularly hit by the recession with Subaru and Suzuki pulling out of the world rally championship.
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:44 pm
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| BANzai Rastafarai wrote: | | MG Man wrote: | | wtf u want, Puffy? |
WAIT!! IS PUFFY YU JSU CALL ME YOU SECRET JESUS LOVER? |
THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU
THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU
THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU |
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:07 pm
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allyuh is not the same ppl complaining about ole talk in the car park?
F1 started dying the moment they changed the quali...now they're just speeding up the process...certianly gona be more bouncidents and failures next yr though,,, |
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:07 pm
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| the biggest failure will be Hamilton |
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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:45 pm
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| MG Man wrote: | | the biggest failure will be Hamilton |
your avatar should be changed to a pic of lewis hamilton kissing a cross.  
*the inhumanity*
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:57 am
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| MG Man wrote: | | the biggest failure will be Hamilton |
ah my friend...the biggest failure wil lbe blown Ferrari Engines....and we all know how MAssa and Riko LOVES to lbow their engines!!! |
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:03 pm
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out with the old
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:34 am
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FIRST PICS - Ferrari's 2009 challenger
Monday, 12th January 2009
Ferrari has taken the covers off its latest F1 machine - the F60 - at the first launch of 2009.
The wraps have come off the car that Ferrari hopes will wrest the Formula One world title back from McLaren, as the Scuderia became the first team to unveil its 2009 contender.
Built to the latest set of F1 regulations, the car looks markedly different to those of recent years, with the wider and lower front wing and narrower, taller rear clearly visible in the initial studio-based images released from Maranello ahead of the car's official unveiling.
The car has been dubbed the F60, departing from the expected F2009 moniker that would have built on recent years, and is expected to hit the track, albeit later than scheduled, for the first time on Monday 12 January, with Felipe Massa at the wheel.
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:17 am
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Maserati, where you geh de calender? Me likes alot  |
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:27 am
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noshownogo, up in Canada had a store selling.
that ferrari doesn't look bad at all..smaller rear wing, bigger front wing. |
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| Quote: | Why it's called the F60 and not F2009...
"Hello, everybody and Happy New Year! It will be a very interesting year for all of us as far as our sport is concerned. Let me explain to you why the new single-seater is called F60; it's the fifty fifth single-seater built by Ferrari specifically to compete in the Formula 1 World Championship; it's the 60th edition of the F1 Championship and Ferrari is the only team, which has participated in all 60 editions. The sport is closely linked to the Team. It is a historical date, but with a look to the future. It is a difficult moment "and it is the moment to look ahead and the goal is that we will have a F120 one day."
Engine, transmission, and KERS info...
One of the most significant changes in the 2009 regulations is th epossibility of using a kinetic engery recovery system (KERS). The KERS on the F60 was designed by Ferrari in collaboration with Magneti Marelli and is centrally mounted on the engine under the rear part of the chassis; its management has involved all departments of the Gestione Sportiva. The transmission has been redesigned to optimise the aerodynamic efficiency of the car. The gearbox casing is again made in carbon and is still positioned longitudinally. The gearbox iss fitted with a speed shifter. There is also a new breaking system, with callipers designed by Brembo. |
| Quote: | Originally posted by rage2
F60 pics. Not as ugly as the BMW's, but not pretty. I can't see ANY 2009 F1 car look good this year.
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K for KERS button...
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Looks worse on track...
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In other news, Renault's 2009 car failed FIA crash test last week... |
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