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Conrad
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| d spike wrote: | The statue of the Amerindian on the way to Santa Cruz behind San Juan (Santa Cruz Old Road, I think)...
The story I have been told is:
The Spanish settlers there were warned by a friendly amerindian about an impending attack. They then fled to the safety of the nearest garrison. After their return to the area, they erected a statue of the neighbourly indian.
Quite a nice tale, but is it true? If so, what were the chances of survival of the amerindian when his fellows linked the remarkable escape of the settlers to the coincidental resemblance of the statue to the said indian who visited the settlers? (Somebody mus' a collec' boutoo like it was goin out ah style...) 
Seriously, has anyone ever looked closely at the supporting pillar? Neither the design nor the mortar work doesn't resemble (even closely) the style or structure of Spanish colonial towers. The "faux steeple" effect... (I is not ah arkeeteck, eh... buh whoever here is, take a look nah...) I would hazard a guess based on what scraps of info I have hoarded in a small corner of an empty head and say... that structure had to have been built after the 1920's.
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Forgot I had a pic, a 2NR just pointed it out.
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:41 am
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Inter Island Fairy
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You have to say "Inter Island Fairy of HISTORICAL PROPORTIONS"
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d spike
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:41 pm
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Here is a choice piece of local history. Bartholomew de las Casas recounts this incident concerning Trinidad in 1513 in his writings:
Two Dominican priests were landed in Trinidad to bring Christianity to the natives. They were well received by the Indians, and lived among them, learning to communicate.
However, life was disturbed when a Spanish ship anchored and the crew came ashore. They were welcomed by the natives, who were pleased to introduce the crew to the priests. The crew had the priests explain to the Indians that a display of gifts was prepared on the deck of the ship. The head of the tribe, his wife, and many others went to the ship to see the display. When the Spaniards decided they had enough people on board, they set sail for Santo Domingo to sell their newly acquired slaves.
The Amerindians on shore, realizing what had happened, accused the two priests of being part of the plot. The religious pleaded innocence and begged for their lives. They were spared under one condition, they get in touch with Santo Domingo and get the prisoners returned.
When a ship appeared on the horizon, the Indians allowed the priests to contact the captain. The priests begged the captain to see about the release of the captives. That failed, as the prisoners were already sold, and the Councillors of the Royal Audiencia themselves had bought some.
After eight months had passed – the priests had asked for a four month stay of execution – the Indians got fed up waiting, and proceeded to cut the throats of both priests. It is quite likely that all this took place in the village of Conquerabia, the present site of downtown Port-of-Spain. |
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:53 pm
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| sounds just like modern day POS.............. kidnapping and murder nothing new |
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:27 pm
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| great info tuners, keep it coming |
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SMc
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:26 am
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| just revisited this thread and read all 12 pages..excellent work!! I want more. |
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Sequel
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:19 pm
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did bwia really have a 747?  |
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Rory Phoulorie
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:02 pm
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| Sequel wrote: | | did bwia really have a 747? |
Largest plane I know they had was an Airbus A340. |
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Sequel
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:12 pm
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| Rory Phoulorie wrote: | | Sequel wrote: | | did bwia really have a 747? |
Largest plane I know they had was an Airbus A340. |
cool.
bwia aircraft pan style still looked nicer...was more trini. |
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| Best thing i ever read on this site....cool |
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:24 pm
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Ohh..,..went to the Runnymead Memorial after reading this thread,felt compeled to do so  |
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Mr. Red Sleeper
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:26 pm
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| Bump for a good thread! |
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[quote="MG Man"] | Maserati wrote: |
who up for a trek thru the forest to uncover some WWII bunkers?
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restricted access............u don't want the Army guys to catch u
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this is true but what i can tell is since after world war 2 there is still very much an american presence just after tetron barracks .... apparently there is a road which leads all the way to scotland bay there was another road which also ran lower down to some houses located close to the beach on the way to tetron. those sealed bunkers have very sensitive equipment and information and are closely monitored not only by our local army but under surveilance of the us navy and marines it for if in event a base must be setup there are equipment there to facilate such. on another note my great uncle who was a ww2 raf bomber and fighter pilot and work closely with the british intelligence community also told me alot of stories of things happening here and in europe during the war yrs. |
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:55 pm
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| carmelo wrote: |
in event a base must be setup there are equipment there to facilate such. |
sounds like T3 Rise Of The Machines kinda thing |
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Trinidad and Tobago banknotes
A brief monetary history:
British currency, till 1905
Trinidad and Tobago Dollar = 100 Cents, 1905-1951
British East Caribbean Territories currency, 1951-1964
Trinidad and Tobago Dollar = (British Caribbean Dollar) = 100 Cents, from 1964
1905 TT dollar
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:30 pm
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also told me alot of stories of things happening here and in europe during the war yrs.
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Tell us some of the stories nah........please |
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:32 pm
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ah love it..
Good find are you connected with the poster?
thats so sick they had to go down through the 'old southern main road' |
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:44 pm
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| who could remember the coconut man on the roundabout in south |
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:13 pm
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| What that have to do with this thread? |
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:48 am
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2nd vid @2.00...
Why Worry
This is the Life..... |
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:26 pm
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wow amazing vids all the pipelines already visible
police patrolling by horse on the beach wow just wow |
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:35 am
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that Arch bridge in Sando there since forever
Trinidad the year my father was born love it nice
Princess Margaret Hi-way
see her open it officially
princess margaret in trinidad opening highway planting tree and opening san fernando general hospital
http://www.wpafilmlibrary.c...4c-e979-7f3ae89c0a91.html
type trinidad into the search box at top of page |
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:40 pm
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xtech,
http://www.wpafilmlibrary.c...4c-e979-7f3ae89c0a91.html
Great find. Some good memories and earlier history there!!
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Situated in the heart of the city, Woodford Square is bordered by Frederick Street on the East, Abercromby Street on the West, Hart Street on the South and Knox Street on the North. It is surrounded by some very important buildings - Trinity Cathedral on its southern side; the Town Hall, Public Library and the Hall of Justice are on the northern side; the Greyfriars Presbyterian Church is on the eastern side; while the Red House is on the western side of the Square.
In the days when Port of Spain was just a little fishing village called Conquerabia, Woodford Square was first known as the Place of Souls by the native Indians who fought a bloody battle on this open space. The St Ann's River ran through this open space and down to the sea. The course of the river was later changed to what is today called The Dry River. The riverbed in the Place of Souls was filled up. With the coming of the French settlers to the island, they called the Place of souls - Place Des Ames. Place Des Ames means Place of souls.
Place Des Ames later became known as Brunswick Square. Brunswick Square was used as a parade ground for soldiers.
Many of these soldiers were Germans. Brunswick is a German name, and so it is believed that this open space was named after the German soldiers who used it.
* 1808 - Port of Spain is on fire. The fire burns all night.
Many buildings in Port of Spain are burnt to the ground. Many persons are homeless. Tents are put up in Brunswick Square. Rebuilding of the Anglican Church begins immediately but this time in the centre of the Square. People are angry. They complain to the Governor. Work on the church in the Square is stopped. The church is removed to the corner of Hart and Abercromby Streets where it stands today. That church is Trinity Cathedral.
* 1813 - Governor Sir Ralph Woodford arrives in Trinidad. He immediately begins rebuilding the town and lays out the square.
* 1866 - A fountain was put I the centre of the Square. The fountain was a gift from George Gregor Turnbull of Glasgow, Scotland.
* 1892 - New heavy railings were put up around the square. These are the ones we see today.
* 1917 - A bandstand was built and opened by Dr E. Prada, the then Mayor of Port of Spain. At the opening of the bandstand the name of the square was changed from Brunswick Square to Woodford Square in honour of the Governor Sir Ralph Woodford.
* 1948 - Paul Robeson the famous black American singer entertained crowds in Woodford Square.
* 1960 - Marion Anderson world famous black American singer performed in Woodford Square.
* 1969 - Winnifred Atwell a world famous Trinidadian pianist performed in Woodford Square.
Over the year, people have called Woodford Square by different names: 'The University of Woodford Square', 'The People's Parliament'.
* 1962 - The year of our country's Independence another fountain in the northeastern corner of the square was built. The spot is known as the meditation corner.
Woodford Square is not only an open space, where people gather to enjoy good entertainment. Woodford Square is an open space where people go to protest their conditions of living.
* 1903 - The then government plans to increase water rates. People are against it. While the council meets in the Red House, people gather in Woodford Square to protest.
* 1956 - A new political party - The Peoples' National Movement (PNM) under their political leader Dr. Eric Williams draws crowds to Woodford Square to hear him tell of his party's plan to make Trinidad and Tobago an independent nation. He gives Woodford Square the name The University of Woodford Square.
* 1970 - Many are without work. They are dissatisfied. They protest. Marches and demonstrations either start or end at Woodford Square.
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* 1 History
* 2 Map and Locations
* 3 Important NPCs
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Docks of Port-of-Spain
Both Trinidad and Tobago were originally settled by Amerindians of South American origin. Trinidad was first settled by pre-agricultural Archaic people at least 7,000 years ago, making it the earliest-settled part of the Caribbean. Ceramic-using agriculturalists settled Trinidad around 250 BCE and then moved further up the Lesser Antillean chain. At the time of European contact Trinidad was occupied by various Arawakan-speaking groups including the Nepoya and Suppoya, and Cariban-speaking groups such as the Yao, while Tobago was occupied by the Island Caribs and Galibi. The Amerindian name for Trinidad was Kairi or Iere which is usually translated as The Land of the Hummingbird, although others have reported that it simply meant island. Christopher Columbus encountered the island of Trinidad on July 31, 1498 and named it after the Holy Trinity. Columbus reported seeing Tobago, which he named Bella Forma, but did not land on the island. The name Tobago is probably derived from tobacco, although the English pronunciation is to-bay-go, rhyming with plumbago and sago.
Antonio de Sedeño first settled Trinidad in the 1530s as a means of controlling the Orinoco and subduing the Warao (Whitehead, 1997). Cacique Wannawanare (Guanaguanare) granted the St Joseph area to Domingo de Vera e Ibargüen in 1592 and then withdrew to another part of the island (Boomert, 2000). San José de Oruña (St Joseph) was established by Antonio de Berrío on this land. Walter Raleigh arrived in Trinedado on March 22 1595, casting anchor at Curiapan/Punta de Gallos and described the pitch lake (Piche or Tierra de Brea) and the Annaperima hill. This hill was known to the Warao as the home of the sea god Na’barima (Whitehead, 1997; 131). Raleigh soon attacked San José and captured and interrogated de Berrío obtaining much information from him and from the cacique Topiawari (Whitehead, 1997). In the 1700s, Trinidad belonged as an island province to the viceroyalty of New Spain along with modern Mexico and Central America (Besson, 2000). The Dutch and the Courlanders had established themselves in Tobago in the 16th and 17th centuries and produced tobacco and cotton. However Trinidad in this period was still mostly forest, populated by a few Spaniards with their handful of slaves and a few thousand Amerindians (Besson, 2000). Spanish colonisation in Trinidad remained tenuous. In 1762, after three hundred years of Spanish rule San José de Oruña and Puerto de España (Port of Spain) were hamlets rather than towns. Because Trinidad was considered underpopulated, Roume de St. Laurent, a Frenchman living in Grenada, was able to obtain a Cédula de Población from the Spanish King Charles III on the 4th November, 1783. This Cédula de Población was more generous than the first of 1776 and granted free lands to Roman Catholic foreign settlers and their slaves in Trinidad willing to swear allegiance to the Spanish king. The land grant was thirty two acres for each man, woman and child and half of that for each slave brought. As a result, Scots, Irish, German, Italian and English families arrived. The Protestants among them profited from Governor Don José Maria Chacon's generous interpretation of the law. The French Revolution (1789) also had an impact on Trinidad's culture since it resulted in the emigration of Martiniquan planters and their slaves to Trinidad who established an agriculture-based economy (sugar and cocoa) for the island (Besson, 2000).
Port of Spain was founded near the site of the Amerindian fishing village of Cumucurapo ("place of the silk cotton trees"), located in the area today known as Mucurapo, west of the city centre. The name Conquerabia is also recorded for an Amerindian settlement in this area; this may have been a separate village, another name for Cumucurapo, or the result of miscomprehension by early Spanish settlers, who established a port here: Puerto de los Hispanioles, later Puerto de España. In 1560, a Spanish garrison was posted near the foot of the Laventille Hills, which today form the city's eastern boundary.
The part of today's downtown Port of Spain closest to the sea was once an area of tidal mudflats covered by mangroves. The first Spanish buildings here, in the 16th and 17th centuries, were open mud-plastered ajoupas, interspersed between large silk cotton trees and other trees. The fort was a mud-walled enclosure with a shack inside, a flagpole, two or three cannon, and few Spanish soldiers. The Caribs were transient, travelling to the mainland (now Venezuela) and up the Orinoco River. The French naval commander Comte D'Estrées visited in 1680, and reported that there was no Port of Spain. But in 1690, Spanish governor Don Sebastien de Roteta reported in writing to the King of Spain: "Already six houses have been made and others have been started. There is already a church in this place, so that it was unnecessary to build a new."
In 1699, the alcalde of Trinidad reported to the King that the natives "were in the habit of showering scorn and abuse upon the Holy Faith and ridiculed with jests the efforts of the Holy Fathers".
By 1757, the old capital, San José de Oruña (modern Saint Joseph), about seven miles (11 km) inland, had fallen into disrepair, and Governor Don Pedro de la Moneda transferred his seat to Port of Spain, which thus became Trinidad's de facto capital. The last Spanish Governor of Trinidad, Don José Maria Chacón, devoted much of his time to developing the new capital. He compelled the island's Cabildo (governing council) to move to Port of Spain, and he limited its powers to the municipality. The 1783 Cedula of Population, which encouraged the settlement of French Catholics in the island, led to a rapid increase in the town's population and its geographical extension westwards.
From the small cluster of buildings at the foot of the Laventille Hills, eleven streets were laid out west to the area bounded by the St. Ann's River, thus establishing the grid pattern which has survived in downtown Port of Spain to the present day. Along the sea shore was the Plaza del Marina (Marine Square), a parade ground. By 1786, the town had a population of about 3,000.
Realising that the St. Ann's River, prone to flooding, was impeding the expansion of the town, Chacón had its course diverted in 1787 so that it ran to the east of the city, along the foot of the Laventille Hills. (During the rainy season the river still had a tendency to overflow its banks, flooding parts of the city; over the decades its channel would be widened and paved. During the dry season the water level drops to a trickle; hence its nickname, the East Dry River.) Port of Spain was now able to continue spreading northwards and westwards, encroaching on the surrounding sugar-cane plantations.
In 1797, Trinidad was invaded by a British force under General Sir Ralph Abercromby. The British landed west of Port of Spain, at what is still called Invaders Bay, and marched towards the town. Realising his military resources were inadequate to defend the colony and wishing to avoid unnecessary destruction, Governor Chacón capitulated and was able to negotiate generous terms with Abercromby. Port of Spain remained the capital; the new British colonial government renamed most of the streets after British royalty or military figures, but allowed Chacón Street (which followed the old course of the St. Ann's River) to retain its name, in tribute to the former governor. |
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