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SmokeyGTi I LUV THIS PLACE
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:45 am Post subject: |
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View of Marine Square at the corner of Frederick Street.
June 7th
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| the_DFC wrote: | so last year i was working t&tec...and we had a job to do deep in the bush by arena dam.
so we stop by this guy house to ask for directions. So i came out...and saw this blonde haired, blue eyed white man approaching me. d man looking like sting! I fix up my self..and straighten out my english. "good day sir, i'm from t&tec, i just need some directions please" he said "aye whappenin padna...come inside nah"
ah local white..so i find out where i had to go..and i inquired about the area.
well i didnt know arena road was riiiccchh in amerindian history. being a history buff...i spoke at length with him.
So the man said.....his father was a british who owned a cocoa plantation in arena. and when he was a little boy (around 1940-50) there were few houses in the area. the occupants were either white, spanish, or amerindian, or mix up. but they were direct descendants.
so as a little boy, he and his friends used to venture deep into the forest and play..and hunt...until one day they stumbled upon..a amerindian settlement. It was a perfectly preserved settlement with huts, and temples,and artifacts,and tools and alot of stuff. but most amazingly...the place was littered with spanish gold! large thick gold coins, gold crucifixes inlaid with gems, gold chains and rings decorated the place and hung from the huts.
Later he found out that that was a large carib village...and when the spanish explorers came, they attacked the caribs. the caribs greatly outnumbered the spanish, so the caribs killed out most of the spanish..and took all thier possessions. They took all the gold and didnt know the value of it..except that it was shiny..so they decorated their huts and temples with it. Not long after....they all died out..after contracting some strange spanish virus.
So back to boyhood days...one of his friends..told his parents about the gold..and soon a team of parents trekked through the bush..and raided the settlement. they took everything....down to the last fragment of gold in the ground. they dug up around the settlement to see if anything was buried..and soon they destroyed the area.
well this story wowed me...but i still was skeptical..
until he took me to a room...and showed me his glass case.. what i saw had me thinking OH MY FCUKIN GAWD!....
yes...i saw spanish bouillon ....i saw a gem necklace..i saw a large crucifix with the whole thing encrusted with rubies and some green and blue stones. ..i saw thick gold chains..and amerindian pottery and tools. and spears and bows and arrows and bones. look up the arena massacare (1699) in wikipedia. the amerindians. murdered a set of catholic priests.
soo..this has seriously wowed me to the extreme..and...this got me studying the history of trinidad under spanish rule.
did you know...that a spanish ship...carrying spanish treasure...looted from other colonies..sank off the coast of trinidad?
this is what i heard from a spanish guy in arima...his great great great grandfather was returning to spain on that boat..when it sank. spanish officers came and informed his family.
this is part of my personal research right now..and when i'm finished i will publish the report. |
edit ur post or mods help...
uh endangering the man life here hoss, remember it's a public forum |
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Express: Section 2 wrote: | WALLERFIELD 2000 - PLANS FOR THE FUTURE
Express Section 2
January 30, 1998
Page 19
Wallerfield, the old US airbase between Arima and Sangre Grande, and to the north of Cumuto, was originally planned as a transit point for troops and armour on the way to the war in Europe and North Africa. There was just one squadron of B17s at Wallerfield until February 1942.
By 1943 the Americans had established 226 military bases, large and small, in Trinidad, together with airfields, a total of 17 operating runways.
When the Americans left Wallerfield in 1948, almost nothing was done to the area.
After the NAR's ascension to power in 1986, plans were made by John Humphrey, then in the NAR Cabinet, for the revitalisation of the Wallerfield area.
He believed that the country needed to develop a township in the east. Port of Spain being the main centre for most business, attracted an influx of commuters daily.
Minister Humphrey argued that if another township was developed in the east that was as attractive as Port of Spain, many businessmen and professionals living in the east and beyond, could work and enjoy a social life there.
Humphrey also pointed out that major cities have activities 24 hours a day but in Port of Spain after a certain hour most business places close and the city virtually shuts down, with large numbers of people leaving the Port of Spain area, trying to beat traffic.
Proposals and plans for the new township were put on the drawing board. International aircraft companies were contacted and many businessmen had shown interest in the proposals. However, soon after his departure from the NAR the plan was put on a back burner.
The plan was again revived after the UNC won the November 1995 elections. In January of the following year, Humphrey, now Minister of Housing and Settlements in the UNC-NAR government, made a ground tour of the Wallerfield area along with the Ministers of Works, Public Utilities and National Security.
A few weeks later the Ministers encouraged a clean up campaign in the area. Minister Humphrey was among the group of volunteers. The first aim of the committee was to put an end to criminal activities that were said to be taking place there.
"Smart Park" was the name given to the government's Wallerfield development project.
Sadiq Baksh, Minister of Works and Transport, stated at a meeting of the Eastern Division of the Trinidad and Tobago Chamber of Commerce in March of 1996 that the Government was looking at establishing an export- oriented Free Trade Zone for light manufacturing together with an agro-processing zone both of which will be serviced by a designated runway and support facilities in the short term and "a fully integrated township" in the long term.
When Minister Humphrey was contacted recently for a comment on what new initiatives had been set up by government for Wallerfield, he said that a few months ago the area was placed under Tidco's portfolio. Tidco he says will now be in charge of putting in the necessary infrastructure to make the township viable. |
History proves that even in gov't as a people we're natural procrastinators.
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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trini_ravi, if you want the man to edit it, why did you quote it?  |
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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^^^skanky alread asked him 2... and no response yet
i'm hoping he see the quote... i'll delete after |
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Greypatch wrote: | | have some photos of the old pitch lake with same will post tomorrow |
see the buckets
old lake remember the lake was higher than the road eh...
now it is way below road level..
also la brea was a massive pine field
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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One more a tourism booklet (me thinks)
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Cjruckus wrote: | Important Years found on Google:
1498 - Christopher Columbus claims Trinidad for Spain
1592 - Spanish settle in Trinidad and retain possession for two centuries
1797 - Trinidad is captured by British
1814 - Tobago is ceded to the British
1834 - Slavery is abolished in Trinidad
1845 - Indian indentured immigration begins; program lasts until 1917
1888 - Tobago is joined to Trinidad as a single Crown Colony
1956 - Trinidad and Tobago achieves self-government
1962 - Trinidad and Tobago is granted independence
1976 - Trinidad and Tobago is named a republic
1980 – Tobago House of Assembly is established |
1498 - Christopher Columbus claims Trinidad for Spain
Seizes lands from Amerindians natives
1592 - Spanish settle in Trinidad and retain possession for two centuries
Slowly but surely killing the Amerindian population
1797 - Trinidad is captured by British
1814 - Tobago is ceded to the British
Came to rape the country's resources & finish what the spaniards started
1834 - Slavery is abolished in Trinidad
1845 - Indian indentured immigration begins; program lasts until 1917
Cheap labour & exploitation
1888 - Tobago is joined to Trinidad as a single Crown Colony
1956 - Trinidad and Tobago achieves self-government
1962 - Trinidad and Tobago is granted independence
Not really, especially if the privy council pokes their nose into our a affairs regularly
1976 - Trinidad and Tobago is named a republic
Republic Definition: A state in which the sovereign power resides in the whole body of the people, and is exercised by representatives elected by them; a commonwealth. Cf. Democracy,
1980 – Tobago House of Assembly is established. |
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Carlsen Field was actually the major airfield, not Wallers. This airfield is also supposed to be the largest (at least up until the 80's) in the world. Wallerfield was named after an aircraft (seaplane, I think) captain who kept his crippled plane airborne allowing his crew to bail out. He couldn't bail out in time, went down with his plane.
The chaps who oversaw the "Berlin Airlift" were specifically chosen from fellows who worked in Carlsen Field, due to their juggling the greatest amount of air-traffic in the war.
CF was the only base that had 3 air corps active at the same time: RAF, USAF and US Navy planes. |
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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According to the book "Spanish Trinidad" (history text in the 50's), 4 priests and a friar were killed in Arena by the amerindians. The actual details of the "massacre" are given! After the slaying of the Governor and his men, the folks sat down to decide what to do, as they were quite aware of the Spaniards' habits regarding retaliation. The older heads wanted to go south to escape to the Main, while the younger ones wanted to go north and hide in the amerindian settlements on the North coast. (They knew of the escaped Spaniard who hotfooted back to St. Joseph. This soldier didn't get away clean - he died of an arrow wound afterwards.)
As the text goes, the indians split up. The Spanish soldiers trailed the larger group which were heading south. They caught up with them and slaughtered the lot - a few escaped during the exacting of revenge. This place was called "Big Blood". The Spanish chased the survivors and you can guess the meaning of the site "Little Blood". The Spaniards then took off behind the north-going gang. They cornered them on the cliffs of Galera. Old folks spoke of women flinging their babies and then following them over the edge. You all know the rest. |
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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The American camp in Wallerfield, Fort Read (not Reid), had gateposts at its entrances - they still stand today. Between the two posts at Santa Rosa was a pine tree, which was felled about 10-15 years ago. That pine tree caused a few problems for the GIs who had to patrol the road around Christmas time. (Trinis loved having a real pine xmas tree!)
My grandmother's brothers solved the problem by putting up the car bonnet and peering around under the hood, while 2 brothers were up in the tree, clipping decent sized branches. One xmas, a patrol got suspicious, attempted to start the car (what do you know, it started) and sent the reluctant group on their way - leaving two boys aloft... |
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Conrad:"The name of many place in the south land were used as posts for trading slaves. For example in Moruga there is 1st Company and 3rd Company. "
This isn't correct.
During the American war for Independence, black slaves were encouraged by the British to fight for the Crown in return for their freedom. When the Brits lost, these free slaves (and now, ex-soldiers) had to be settled somewhere. Where better than the Colonies, and in particular, Trinidad, which though British, had few Britishers? However, they couldn't be settled within macco range of the estates with their slaves - the slaves might get ideas about free black people... So they and their families were shipped and then settled by their companies (hence the names of these villages) quite to hell in the bush. These villages were known for their cleanliness and organization - even though they were positioned far (and in some cases, completely cut off) from previously settled areas. These people were Southern Baptist, and referred to themselves as "Mericans". Two companies didn't make
it - their ship sank. One company's land allotment was so hard to carve out of the jungle, they called it Hard Bargain. Another company REFUSED to settle where they were sent after they saw it, and they returned to PoS. The authorities were very concerned about this (free black people walking around town, what will the local negroes say - or worse - think?) and the ex-soldiers were given a New Grant of land where they then settled. |
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Correction noted. Source? |
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Any good local history book NOT WRITTEN for use in our gov't secondary schools. M. Anthony, G. Besson, the museum, et al |
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Slaves were sold where they disembarked in PoS |
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Carnival - Late 60's
somehow this guy reminds me of an oompa loompa
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:46 am Post subject: |
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from an old postcard, caption on the back sates:
"The Usine Ste Madeline, Trinidad, is the largest sugar factory in the British West Indies. In the yard are seen trucks loaded with cane brought in on the estate's own railway system. The Factory makes about 250 tons of sugar a day."
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hold this beautiful shot:
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pitch lake:
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Project 1234 ...
A sceret project to increase capacity of the P-a-P Refinery.
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Postcards - Cocoa Production:
"In the past Cacao was propagated only by seed. During recent years progress has been made by the Trinidad Department of Agriculture in the selection of heavy bearing trees and their propagation by budding. The view shows a four-year-old budded tree on an estate in Trinidad, which has the largest number of budded Cacao trees on any private estate in the world."
"After being picked the Cacao pods are put into heaps in the field where the beans are extracted. They are then sent to the fermentation houses and are subsequently dried."
"After being fermented for about six days the Cacao beans are dried in the sun on large platforms with movable roofs so that they can be protected at night and during rain."
"This view shows the Manager's house on a Cacao Estate adjacent to it the Cacao drying houses, store rooms and cattle pens. The surroundings are often very picturesque especially on Cacao estates in the hills."
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| thanks smokey |
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Red House - Thing looking like new
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hol dat patch:
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Indo Trini Town!! St. James!!
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Village Scene - Notice the houses have a Carat roof!
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Custom House - A Steamer!:
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Does this road still exist? what does it look like now?
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Boeing 727-78
New York - John F. Kennedy International (Idlewild) (JFK / KJFK)
USA - New York, December 1965 |
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:44 am Post subject: |
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1938:
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Charlotte Street, 1956
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High Street
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Presentation College, San'do
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Indian arival day 1945: Y de Lima was actually around then
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Canning:
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Circa 1912
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| somebess photos dey bhai |
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