Local history Thread

Greypatch · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject:

have some photos of the old pitch lake with same will post tomorrow

xtech · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject:

these pics shows us as a society...............an how completely lawless we have become.

Look how the streets are very clean

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Trinidad through the eyes of a American soldier based in Chaguramas

http://forums.trinituner.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=230540&highlight=

secret_service · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:14 pm Post subject:

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foss · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:56 pm Post subject:

I remember going on a Tristar to Miami when i was a yute.. the plane scare me yes.. was noisy like hell !

the_DFC · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:29 pm Post subject:

so last year i was working t&tec...and we had a job to do deep in the bush by arena dam.

so we stop by this guy house to ask for directions. So i came out...and saw this blonde haired, blue eyed white man approaching me. d man looking like sting! I fix up my self..and straighten out my english. "good day sir, i'm from t&tec, i just need some directions please" he said "aye whappenin padna...come inside nah"
ah local white..so i find out where i had to go..and i inquired about the area.

well i didnt know arena road was riiiccchh in amerindian history. being a history buff...i spoke at length with him.

So the man said.....his father was a british who owned a cocoa plantation in arena. and when he was a little boy (around 1940-50) there were few houses in the area. the occupants were either white, spanish, or amerindian, or mix up. but they were direct descendants.

so as a little boy, he and his friends used to venture deep into the forest and play..and hunt...until one day they stumbled upon..a amerindian settlement. It was a perfectly preserved settlement with huts, and temples,and artifacts,and tools and alot of stuff. but most amazingly...the place was littered with spanish gold! large thick gold coins, gold crucifixes inlaid with gems, gold chains and rings decorated the place and hung from the huts.

Later he found out that that was a large carib village...and when the spanish explorers came, they attacked the caribs. the caribs greatly outnumbered the spanish, so the caribs killed out most of the spanish..and took all thier possessions. They took all the gold and didnt know the value of it..except that it was shiny..so they decorated their huts and temples with it. Not long after....they all died out..after contracting some strange spanish virus.

So back to boyhood days...one of his friends..told his parents about the gold..and soon a team of parents trekked through the bush..and raided the settlement. they took everything....down to the last fragment of gold in the ground. they dug up around the settlement to see if anything was buried..and soon they destroyed the area.

well this story wowed me...but i still was skeptical..
until he took me to a room...and showed me his glass case.. what i saw had me thinking OH MY FCUKIN GAWD!....

yes...i saw spanish bouillon ....i saw a gem necklace..i saw a large crucifix with the whole thing encrusted with rubies and some green and blue stones. ..i saw thick gold chains..and amerindian pottery and tools. and spears and bows and arrows and bones. look up the arena massacare (1699) in wikipedia. the amerindians. murdered a set of catholic priests.

soo..this has seriously wowed me to the extreme..and...this got me studying the history of trinidad under spanish rule.

did you know...that a spanish ship...carrying spanish treasure...looted from other colonies..sank off the coast of trinidad?
this is what i heard from a spanish guy in arima...his great great great grandfather was returning to spain on that boat..when it sank. spanish officers came and informed his family.
this is part of my personal research right now..and when i'm finished i will publish the report.

xtech · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject:

post up that guys address nah.

Spanish way ruthless and brutal. It says here that after they hanged the captured amerindians they cut up their bodies an spread the pieces around Arena

THE ARENA MASSACRE: 1699
It was shortly after the founding of the missions that the next noteworthy incident took place. Indeed, it was as a direct result of the founding of San Francisco de los Arenales that this episode of blood arose. The governor who had called for the missions, Diego Suàrez Ponce de León, had first left in 1684. He returned for a second term in 1693, just after the last of the seven missions had been founded, and none could tell if he was pleased when he left office for good in 1696 - or if he ever knew what happened afterwards.

The man who followed Diego Suàrez Ponce de León is listed as having come in 1698, and that leaves 1697 without a governor. Still, Diego’s successor may have been appointed in 1697 but could not arrive until 1698, it is hard to tell. What we do know is that he lasted just one year and was never to return alive.
Governor José de León y Echales was due to pay his periodic visit to the missions some time in December 1699, at the same time as a new mission church was being built at the mission of San Francisco de los Arenales.

Work on the church was proceeding very slowly because the Amerindians of the mission felt disgruntled at the way they were being treated. The priests of the mission threatened to report them to the governor, and the Amerindians, dreading this because of the notorious cruelty of the governors, decided to take matters into their own hands. On the day the governor was due to arrive, December 1, 1699, the Arawaks attacked the three priests of the mission, clubbing them to death, and according to reports they threw the bodies in the foundation of the church.They then promptly went to lie in wait for the governor and his party. This was along the royal road where the party was due to pass. They fell on the governor’s party, killing everyone except a soldier on horseback, who escaped and rode back to San José with the news.

The Cabildo hastily dispatched troops to the scene but when they got to the mission they found that the Amerindians had all fled along the trail to the east coast. They followed in hot pursuit and they caught up with some of the Arawaks at the Cocal, on the east coast. It is reported that they killed hundreds of them, thus making it a genuine “massacre,” and not a massacre as at Arena, where three priests lost their lives. To escape the Spanish soldiers a lot of the women and children threw themselves into the sea. However, those who were able, fled south along the coast, but unfortunately could not cross the bridgeless Nariva River, and therefore perished.

In the end twenty-two were brought back to San José to be tried, and the judgement upon them was at one time in the records of the Cabildo. Translated, it said: “That these 22 above-named criminals be hung until they necessarily die, and after their deaths their hands and heads shall be cut off and exposed and nailed in the places where they committed their crimes, and their bodies shall be cut in pieces and put along the road for their punishment.”

Maserati · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:37 pm Post subject:

BWIA 747

the_DFC,that is amazing Surprised

looking forward to the report you are doing.

the_DFC · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject:

he is somewhere around!

the_DFC · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:42 pm Post subject:

d arena massacare...

http://www.nalis.gov.tt/Com...ndians&ArenaMassacre.html

cinco · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject:

wow
just wow i feel so dense not knowing the history of our country

xtech · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:49 pm Post subject:

a black lady was hanged in Diego Martin in the 1800's a public hanging

cant remember why

MISHI · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:09 am Post subject:

Click for full-size.

Piarco.. dunno year. Simply states

"Trinidad and Tobago Defence Force Arrival of Shackleton's Air Force."

.:PROZAC:.. · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:23 am Post subject:

i love this thread... more more more

evo_chic · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:55 am Post subject:

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BANzai Rastafarai · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:19 am Post subject:

Yard Fowl ah Kick Up!!!!!!

Jack the Ripper · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:29 am Post subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waller_Air_Force_Base

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlsen_Air_Force_Base

bluefete · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:14 am Post subject:

xtech &ss; Great pictures. This is a very good thread. Rich in our history. Maybe the gov't can take a page from this thread, the one about our early cars and the one about the history of San 'Do.[/b]

Redman · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:11 am Post subject:

MISHI
Dunno if this is the same flight:
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1962/1962%20-%202697.html

Caribbean Goodwill
THREE SHACKLETON MR.3s of 120 Sqn left
their base at Kinloss recently on a
goodwill tour of the Caribbean. They
arrived at Antigua, St Johns, on November 9
and last Sunday, the 11th, gave a demonstration
over the English Harbour—dropping
Lindholme survival gear—when the annual
dockyard celebrations were held in honour
of Lord Nelson. They flew on to Trinidad
last Monday, arrive at Barbados on November
16, leave there for Bermuda on the
19th and on the 21st fly from Bermuda to
the Azores to arrive back at Kinloss the
following day.
Among the groundcrew being carried
aboard the three Shackletons was the only
West Indian on 120 Sqn, Cpl F. G. D.
Knight, an electrical fitter, whose home is
at Arouca, Trinidad. The Shackleton
force, consisting of 54 officers and airmen,
has as senior officer the Kinloss station
commander Gp Capt P. H. Stembridge.
This exercise, code-named "Main Run III,"
is one of a series of regular visits by Coastal
Command to the Caribbean.

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