Local history Thread

Black Scorpion · Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject:

lil off topic...from early 1900s

http://www.telegram.com/art...503/1017/RSS01&source=rss

""Worcester laid down its first black-topped street early in the 20th century. In 1901, the city began paving Main Street between Chandler Street and Lincoln Square with cobblestones, and a proposal was made to cover the section in front of City Hall with asphalt or wooden blocks to lessen the racket made by iron-rimmed wagon and buggy wheels.

In the years following “bitulithic paving” or “bituminous macadam” was laid down in various city and town streets At that time, the only asphalt in the world came from a tar pit in Trinidad, and it was expensive. Today synthetic asphalt is the norm, although some maintain that the Trinidad variety is still the best. ""

xtech · Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject:

for those who made the long trek to see the huge satellite tracking station dish in chaguramas........ well this is a picture of the same site with the original radar tracking station still operational in 1958. The dish replaced this an was used to track the rockets after launching from florida on the moon missions in the 60's.

Wallerfield was called fort reid at first these are the first GIs to arrive no clear land just coconut trees an plenty bush

HALT! Who Da!?

http://www.trinoutdoors.com...mas%20Historical%20Sights

xtech · Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject:

Old pictures from old American Base in Chaguramas which actually has a date (July 22nd 1944 a Saturday) on beach in Chaguramas near where KFC currently stands

Leaving the Ship all the Yachts missing

Beach Party more like bush party

Maserati · Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject:

xtech,good post

joker · Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject:

^^ what he said

xtech · Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject:

Working Hard for the Yankee Dollar

Eating out of the Garbage

xtech · Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject:

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idlemind · Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject:

Was jus digging up in my archives and saw some pics from the last tourism park held center of excellence (2006 i think it was)

Some Folklore (sorry for the quality, was last day...real jam)

Soucouyant:

Douens:

Papa:

Mama Dlo:

idlemind · Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject:

These portraits were huge so bear with the angles Mr. Green

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Conrad · Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject:

WOW! Looking at those pics makes you wonder why did we didn't build around our history rather than reclaim land and break down old architecture to become "modern".

Nice, keep em coming.

xtech · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject:

post more stuff nah

P20 (1922)

Austin 20s Part of the fleet of Trinidad Central Oilfields.

Bunsee Partap Dome fire in 1928 (Fyzabad)

16 ppl killed plus ah car.

Model T P5734 & A Chevy

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Greypatch · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject:

excellent work fellas ah gonna save dem pics

Greypatch · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:38 pm Post subject:

bump as we taking old T&T threads

TrinbagoMan · Street 2NR Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Tech posts: 66 My 2NRide:

Excellent thread MG Man

Redman · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:50 pm Post subject:

Great Thread,

Trinidad was one of the largest Naval bases during WWII

The carriers came here on their shake down cruises(1st cruise after leaving ship yards.)
The gulf was a natural harbor easily protected from the threat of u boats and the new crews and ships could work the kinks out.The shallow waters of the Gulf made anti sub patrols easy and the tactical pic for the subs suicidal
The ASW for the entire Caribbean was anchored in Tdad

Its location made it a stop for raw materials heading north to the US and East to Europe eg rubber from Brazil, and ships massed into convoys in the Gulf before heading across the Atlantic.So we were a meeting point in both directions. The merchant ships would wait here for their escorts anchored in the Gulf of Paria

As the pics show the waters around Tdad are littered with sunk cargo ships -victims of a concentrated effort early on by Hitlers wolf packs- IF hitler had continued the concentration of U boat activity here the war could have gone in a different direction. We were pivotal

The refineries here also contributed and along side Aruba and Maricaibo(I think small tankers ran crude from Maricaibo to Aruba ) kept the mechanized war running. The refinery in Aruba was shelled by a U boat-I dont think that we were ever shelled but there were a couple alerts WRT invasion
There is even a story of a German u boat officer being caught with a CINEMA ticket from Tdad.
Having apparently landed and taking a walk about.

I think that Rosevelt landed here on his way to meet with Stalin and Churchill,it was under the QT so it wasnt a state visit-Making This was the cross Atlantic flight for a US President and that makes Tdad the first foreign landing for the US Pres.
Also Tdad was used for jungle training -and had small bases all over the southern country

Thats all of the top of meh head and it have a sahina and channa waiting for me so...

Later

Greypatch · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:11 pm Post subject:

please contribute more after the fry food

janfar · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject:

Its also fact that German U-boats used to go for repairs in Rio de Janeiro. Theirs one parked there right now as an exhibit. Argentina and Brazil were somewhat allies to the Germans. Another purpose for the base in Trinidad was as a hub for hunting damaged U-boats headed to the Brazil/ Argentina for repairs...

TOIZ WIT NOIZ · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:19 pm Post subject:

this going good didnt know so much until now

Redman · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:25 pm Post subject:

How many of allyuh really know what a Brighton Bucket is??
as in dat gyul pass meh like a Brighton bucket-(the South version of a full bus)

I gone again-trying to cancel an order on Amazon

Later

Greypatch · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject:

have some photos of the old pitch lake with same will post tomorrow

xtech · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject:

these pics shows us as a society...............an how completely lawless we have become.

Look how the streets are very clean

This frame will load over 500 old photos of Trinidad. Move mouse to bottom of the frame and Click on full screen to see pictures better..... Enjoy

Trinidad through the eyes of a American soldier based in Chaguramas

http://forums.trinituner.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=230540&highlight=

secret_service · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:14 pm Post subject:

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foss · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:56 pm Post subject:

I remember going on a Tristar to Miami when i was a yute.. the plane scare me yes.. was noisy like hell !

the_DFC · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:29 pm Post subject:

so last year i was working t&tec...and we had a job to do deep in the bush by arena dam.

so we stop by this guy house to ask for directions. So i came out...and saw this blonde haired, blue eyed white man approaching me. d man looking like sting! I fix up my self..and straighten out my english. "good day sir, i'm from t&tec, i just need some directions please" he said "aye whappenin padna...come inside nah"
ah local white..so i find out where i had to go..and i inquired about the area.

well i didnt know arena road was riiiccchh in amerindian history. being a history buff...i spoke at length with him.

So the man said.....his father was a british who owned a cocoa plantation in arena. and when he was a little boy (around 1940-50) there were few houses in the area. the occupants were either white, spanish, or amerindian, or mix up. but they were direct descendants.

so as a little boy, he and his friends used to venture deep into the forest and play..and hunt...until one day they stumbled upon..a amerindian settlement. It was a perfectly preserved settlement with huts, and temples,and artifacts,and tools and alot of stuff. but most amazingly...the place was littered with spanish gold! large thick gold coins, gold crucifixes inlaid with gems, gold chains and rings decorated the place and hung from the huts.

Later he found out that that was a large carib village...and when the spanish explorers came, they attacked the caribs. the caribs greatly outnumbered the spanish, so the caribs killed out most of the spanish..and took all thier possessions. They took all the gold and didnt know the value of it..except that it was shiny..so they decorated their huts and temples with it. Not long after....they all died out..after contracting some strange spanish virus.

So back to boyhood days...one of his friends..told his parents about the gold..and soon a team of parents trekked through the bush..and raided the settlement. they took everything....down to the last fragment of gold in the ground. they dug up around the settlement to see if anything was buried..and soon they destroyed the area.

well this story wowed me...but i still was skeptical..
until he took me to a room...and showed me his glass case.. what i saw had me thinking OH MY FCUKIN GAWD!....

yes...i saw spanish bouillon ....i saw a gem necklace..i saw a large crucifix with the whole thing encrusted with rubies and some green and blue stones. ..i saw thick gold chains..and amerindian pottery and tools. and spears and bows and arrows and bones. look up the arena massacare (1699) in wikipedia. the amerindians. murdered a set of catholic priests.

soo..this has seriously wowed me to the extreme..and...this got me studying the history of trinidad under spanish rule.

did you know...that a spanish ship...carrying spanish treasure...looted from other colonies..sank off the coast of trinidad?
this is what i heard from a spanish guy in arima...his great great great grandfather was returning to spain on that boat..when it sank. spanish officers came and informed his family.
this is part of my personal research right now..and when i'm finished i will publish the report.

xtech · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject:

post up that guys address nah.

Spanish way ruthless and brutal. It says here that after they hanged the captured amerindians they cut up their bodies an spread the pieces around Arena

THE ARENA MASSACRE: 1699
It was shortly after the founding of the missions that the next noteworthy incident took place. Indeed, it was as a direct result of the founding of San Francisco de los Arenales that this episode of blood arose. The governor who had called for the missions, Diego Suàrez Ponce de León, had first left in 1684. He returned for a second term in 1693, just after the last of the seven missions had been founded, and none could tell if he was pleased when he left office for good in 1696 - or if he ever knew what happened afterwards.

The man who followed Diego Suàrez Ponce de León is listed as having come in 1698, and that leaves 1697 without a governor. Still, Diego’s successor may have been appointed in 1697 but could not arrive until 1698, it is hard to tell. What we do know is that he lasted just one year and was never to return alive.
Governor José de León y Echales was due to pay his periodic visit to the missions some time in December 1699, at the same time as a new mission church was being built at the mission of San Francisco de los Arenales.

Work on the church was proceeding very slowly because the Amerindians of the mission felt disgruntled at the way they were being treated. The priests of the mission threatened to report them to the governor, and the Amerindians, dreading this because of the notorious cruelty of the governors, decided to take matters into their own hands. On the day the governor was due to arrive, December 1, 1699, the Arawaks attacked the three priests of the mission, clubbing them to death, and according to reports they threw the bodies in the foundation of the church.They then promptly went to lie in wait for the governor and his party. This was along the royal road where the party was due to pass. They fell on the governor’s party, killing everyone except a soldier on horseback, who escaped and rode back to San José with the news.

The Cabildo hastily dispatched troops to the scene but when they got to the mission they found that the Amerindians had all fled along the trail to the east coast. They followed in hot pursuit and they caught up with some of the Arawaks at the Cocal, on the east coast. It is reported that they killed hundreds of them, thus making it a genuine “massacre,” and not a massacre as at Arena, where three priests lost their lives. To escape the Spanish soldiers a lot of the women and children threw themselves into the sea. However, those who were able, fled south along the coast, but unfortunately could not cross the bridgeless Nariva River, and therefore perished.

In the end twenty-two were brought back to San José to be tried, and the judgement upon them was at one time in the records of the Cabildo. Translated, it said: “That these 22 above-named criminals be hung until they necessarily die, and after their deaths their hands and heads shall be cut off and exposed and nailed in the places where they committed their crimes, and their bodies shall be cut in pieces and put along the road for their punishment.”

Maserati · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:37 pm Post subject:

BWIA 747

the_DFC,that is amazing Surprised

looking forward to the report you are doing.

the_DFC · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject:

he is somewhere around!

the_DFC · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:42 pm Post subject:

d arena massacare...

http://www.nalis.gov.tt/Com...ndians&ArenaMassacre.html

cinco · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject:

wow
just wow i feel so dense not knowing the history of our country