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Racers Inspired 3NE 2NR Power Seller
Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Tech posts: 13
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:59 pm Post subject: Legacy GT SDM specs. info needed. |
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hey, Can some one give some specs or details about the LGT SDM model.
I am getting one RORO with black leather, sunroof, mcintosh sound system, 8 airbags, etc but it's Singapore. Any lower grade i should look out for before i purchase? Is it better to purchase a JDM.
Also this one however does not have HID and does not have the control to adjust the beam level. Is that normal for a SDM LGT?
What hp differences is there for between the JDM and SDM LGT?
Any help would be appreciated.
Much Thanks. [/quote] |
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smalls 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Tech posts: 111 Location: central My 2NRide:
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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All i can say there is lots hidden differences,
If you know of any used parts dealer thats bringing parts from singapore for the GT Legacy and have them available then purchase is fine.
However if not i would advise go for a JDM.
In my opinion the JDM's are a lot better.
oh btw the singapore models dont come with HID's exfactory.
my $0.02 |
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legacy_specB Sweet on this forum
Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Tech posts: 286 Location: South My 2NRide: Subaru Legacy Spec. B
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| JDM all the way.....the only thing the SDM legacy comes with that the JDM legacy doesnt have is Cruise control which wont make sense using on our roads. The JDM legacy is much better IMO...... |
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jadakiss 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Tech posts: 231 Location: Poor ISSA :-( My 2NRide: Subaru Legacy Spec. B
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:57 am Post subject: |
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sure the SDM's have leather and sunroofs...but u hada ask urself....the actual price of one of those units landed and cleared all taxes duty etc in trinidad is about 100K.....(priced it myself)...y so cheap?
d cheapest JDM GT would run u damn near to 130-135K....thats a big difference....with that i wud stay clear of the SDM's |
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b18b_turbo Riding on 17's
Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Tech posts: 1228 Location: oh yes....2010 :D ah dey!! My 2NRide: Datsun 120Y
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:46 am Post subject: |
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price is not necessarily a measure of quality. DIfferent things would be valued differently in its respective market. Try buying recaros in Japan and then try buying the same thing in California....exact product, HUGE price difference. Just how a local legacy costs a mint, but in the US it costs about USD27,000......which can be less than a roro... ..... Use physical characteristics of the vehicles to compare them.
same engine, same suspension, same tuning etc....
Just different numbers on the tach and a few cosmetic differences....
I would still go JDM tho... |
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jadakiss 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Tech posts: 231 Location: Poor ISSA :-( My 2NRide: Subaru Legacy Spec. B
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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like i said Racers Inspired, save ur money.In terms of asian economic markets, singapore and japan are closely aligned. So using price as a metric of quality is a fair assumption for these two countries. Singappore has 'lower' quality standards and market requirements for the legacy gt, hence why it is priced significantly less than the JDM models
their legacy's are marketed as luxary sedans in contrast to JDM's which are more geared towards high performance. After all, jus look at the maps on a SDM legacy, most cases its less aggressively tuned.
Ask any dealer or even the big boys, crism. They would tell you that importing a SDM subaru legacy is monumentally cheaper than their JDM counterparts...and the reason is quality..or lack their-off.
SDM's rarely come with bilstein for eg..why? market requirements. Their engine is less aggressively tuned? Why..again market requirements. Same engine yes, however i've spoken to mechs in crism who indicate that some engine internals are actually different in the SDM's.
I must state however that my view with respect to using price as a gauge was for the subaru legacy in particular. It was not ment as a hard and fast rule for other vehicles across the board.
After all Racers Inspired,, would you trust a man like b18b_turbo, who uses 10w 30 oil in his legacy  |
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Civic 2nr 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 13 Nov 2006 Tech posts: 225
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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i dont know about the sdm and jdm legacy, but from what i know wrt parts i have a dx wagon and the ac compressor went and apparently the sdm compressor is diff to the jdm one . so from that i know that jdm parts are more likely to come by when compared to sdm.
my $0.02 |
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b18b_turbo Riding on 17's
Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Tech posts: 1228 Location: oh yes....2010 :D ah dey!! My 2NRide: Datsun 120Y
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| jadakiss wrote: |
their legacy's are marketed as luxary sedans in contrast to JDM's which are more geared towards high performance. After all, jus look at the maps on a SDM legacy, most cases its less aggressively tuned.
Ask any dealer or even the big boys, crism. They would tell you that importing a SDM subaru legacy is monumentally cheaper than their JDM counterparts...and the reason is quality..or lack their-off.
SDM's rarely come with bilstein for eg..why? market requirements. Their engine is less aggressively tuned? Why..again market requirements. Same engine yes, however i've spoken to mechs in crism who indicate that some engine internals are actually different in the SDM's.
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ALL spec-b LGT's SDM or JDM come with Bilstein shocks, most GT's also have them as well.
No legacy in no region was ever geared towards high performance. Its a luxury sedan with some pep....i dont know why some of you think you have a big race car...go outside!!! look at how many GT's and Spec-B's are on the road! Legacy is the new civic now ...hmph....high performance?
As for a more passively tuned map between the countries....utter crap. I ran my stock JDM against a stock SDM and it was basically the same performance.
I didnt know you were so big on tuning Reza.....editing and analyzing JDM and SDM legacy ecu maps alike... how many sdm legacies have you tuned and compared against the JDM's? Its a big claim you are making...
please back up your attempt to say that you know something... |
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RB25-DET Street 2NR
Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Tech posts: 67
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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ok guys lets settle this, Jadakiss are you a tuner?? can you post up the maps you have of the SDM and JDM legacy so i can compare them to see if there are any differences??( if you have them ) I get what you guys are trying to say about the price difference in relation to quality standards and market requirements, but I am concerned with the claim that the JDM and SDM are tuned differently....
lets see if the maps are really different  |
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players Street 2NR
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Have anyone of you guys ever seen this guy legacy, He claim to be a legacy owner but have you ever seen it? Now he claim to pull map from JDM and SDM.. Strange fella yeah........any part I need for my SDM Legacy I provide chassis number to neal and massey and it's done......speculation is un acceptable without facts |
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b18b_turbo Riding on 17's
Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Tech posts: 1228 Location: oh yes....2010 :D ah dey!! My 2NRide: Datsun 120Y
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| players wrote: | | Have anyone of you guys ever seen this guy legacy, He claim to be a legacy owner but have you ever seen it? Now he claim to pull map from JDM and SDM.. Strange fella yeah........any part I need for my SDM Legacy I provide chassis number to neal and massey and it's done......speculation is un acceptable without facts |
yeah, i seen it. he said its a GT with a Spec b rims and its not ....and says 20w-50 is the best oil when fuji and all the forums reccommend 10w-30, 15w-40 and down to 5w..... he also thinks its a real racing performance machine. Jada, from the kinda tuning players has been doing, he clearly knows his stuff and he also OWNS an SDM legacy....as the man said...speculation is unacceptable without facts, esp something as ridiculous as what u claim.
If the is detuned becuase it is not a performance machine like the jdm verson that you so wrongfully claim, what is the HP and torque difference between SDM and JDM?
Racers Inspired asking for help and you just confusing the man. IF YOU DONT KNOW SOMETHING THE JUST SHUT UP, steups.
players boy....we need to help out jadakiss.... . Time and again he keeps publishing misinformation and refuse to come to a legacy meet becuase he think ppl have personal vendettas against him .
check here, take a read:
http://forums.nasioc.com/
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Bacon 3NE2NR is my LIFE
Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Tech posts: 716 Location: Vancouver BC My 2NRide:
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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jadakiss 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Tech posts: 231 Location: Poor ISSA :-( My 2NRide: Subaru Legacy Spec. B
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:26 am Post subject: |
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b18b_turbo, im not sure how u think i own just a GT legacy...i guess the certified copy is wrong huh...they prob made a mistake las time i check, i have a GT spec b.
nah b18b_turbo, didnt come to the meet cuz ah was alil busy...i guess u missed me
players,me neva claim to pull map yes fadda...duno where u get that. like i said, the different dealers i spoke too alluded to the fact that the SDM's were clearly inferior in terms of performance....but wats really funny thois that meh boy,
issa ASS-ganralie saying the SDM is no different from the JDM..yet the SDM happens to come w/leather and mc intosh,exact performance etc etc...soo logic wud dictate that it shud be a better buy right?..funny tho...u always said that u'd never consider buying ah SDM...i wonder y hmmm
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b18b_turbo Riding on 17's
Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Tech posts: 1228 Location: oh yes....2010 :D ah dey!! My 2NRide: Datsun 120Y
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:20 am Post subject: |
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1) nobody say u had a SDM legacy
2) it was stated that it is a cosmetic difference.
3) there are JDM legacies with leather interior and mcintosh.....
You clearly respond to posts very irrlevantly...read and respond to what was said if you must respond at all. 3 of us just asking you to please post the tune differences since you know them....the point of the forum is to learn. So teach us what you know.
| RB25-DET wrote: | | ok guys lets settle this, Jadakiss are you a tuner?? can you post up the maps you have of the SDM and JDM legacy so i can compare them to see if there are any differences| |
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this guy is a tuner, please provde your resources for us to see the clearer picture.
| players wrote: | | Now he claim to pull map from JDM and SDM.. Strange fella yeah........any part I need for my SDM Legacy I provide chassis number to neal and massey and it's done...... |
u claim the maps are different, hwo would u kno if you not pulling maps?
I think your screen name is a typo though...it should be j@cka$$
make sense and back up your claims or
its as simple as that |
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jadakiss 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Tech posts: 231 Location: Poor ISSA :-( My 2NRide: Subaru Legacy Spec. B
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Hahah u can call me what u want lil fella its ok...but jus answer this...if the SDM is the same as the JDM, and cheaper to boot, why didnt u buy d SDM
It defies logic that u'd buy the more expensive one (JDM) ..even when u said performance wise it is identical to the SDM, barring a few aesthetic upgrades which makes clearly makes the SDM package look far more appealing...so y...y buy the JDM then, hmmmm?
U my fren are a moron Oh, btw im here to stay, k  |
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b18b_turbo Riding on 17's
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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i bought over a year ago and was the same price, consider that, wehn ppl now start to buy legacy....hmm?
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND POST YOUR RESOURCS JACK@$$!!!!!!....
rb25det, players, myself and the rest are waiting to learn from u  |
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Civic 2nr 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 13 Nov 2006 Tech posts: 225
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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TOPIC OF THREAD: LGT SDM info specs needed
the squabble between jada and b18 not helping the author.
jada find some evidence
b18 be nice and stop jumping at the man throat
i have a jdm lgt , i researched ahh the info and the reason y the prices are diff is that it is ALLEGED ( dont hold me to it) that a sdm car is subjected to more wear and tear due to higher usage when compared to jdm but they are better equipped with more air bags , ah higher speedo, ah deck that doesnt need to be converted to our frequency etc.
so racers inspired u choose what u want according to your personal preference
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legacy_specB Sweet on this forum
Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Tech posts: 286 Location: South My 2NRide: Subaru Legacy Spec. B
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| b18b_turbo wrote: | | As for a more passively tuned map between the countries....utter crap. I ran my stock JDM against a stock SDM and it was basically the same performance. |
Check the difference between the JDM and Australian Subarus. There is a difference in hp depending on where the car is made for as well as emission laws...at least between these countries.............
I mean think about it.....the US legacy and the JDM legacy carry different sized engines but their power output is about the same......WHY????
And fellars we having a discussion here eh. No need to call names an ting........... |
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b18b_turbo Riding on 17's
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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I mean think about it.....the US legacy and the JDM legacy carry different sized engines but their power output is about the same......WHY????
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JDM = 280 hp
USDM = 243hp ... bigger engine |
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legacy_specB Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| ^^^exactly so the bigger engine produces less power because.................. |
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b18b_turbo Riding on 17's
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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u said power abt the same frenchie....40hp is alot
we still waiting on jack's posts... |
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legacy_specB Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Yea but didn't you say that ecu maps are not different between countries? The Australian spec has the same engine but lower hp. Why? Has to be the tuning IMO. |
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legacy_specB Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Jack?? Oho. Lol. Hahah. You like sheit yes! |
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b18b_turbo Riding on 17's
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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frenchie, does SDM and JDM legacy have differnt output? NO!!
stick to the point, we in singapore and u reach america....
ur visa shoulda expire! |
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legacy_specB Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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players Street 2NR
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Still no MAPS from that guy.......... |
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jadakiss 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 21 Jan 2008 Tech posts: 231 Location: Poor ISSA :-( My 2NRide: Subaru Legacy Spec. B
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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^^^I see ur SDM LEGACY GT STILL FOR SALE?
I guess maybe if u post ur map from ur SDM legacy gt, potential buyers might be enticed...hmmmm but then again maybe not or maybe i can lend u a JDM map..might spice tings up abit
Merry xmas players,  |
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players Street 2NR
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| jadakiss wrote: | ^^^I see ur SDM LEGACY GT STILL FOR SALE?
I guess maybe if u post ur map from ur SDM legacy gt, potential buyers might be enticed...hmmmm but then again maybe not or maybe i can lend u a JDM map..might spice tings up abit
Merry xmas players,  |
Merry Xmas to you also.......... hope your daddy finally give you the LGT so it could really be yours.
About my SDM legacy........ key word MY "Not DADDY'S" If and when it sell ain't no biggy......... The SF5 Forestr is Mine also....... Key word MINE "NOT DADDY'S"........ PUNK
You really don't have a clue about these vehicle eh?
Had to borrow this
jadakiss wrote:
SDM legacy are luxary sedans in contrast to JDM which are high performance
jack@$$, (' ') |
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Bacon 3NE2NR is my LIFE
Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Tech posts: 716 Location: Vancouver BC My 2NRide:
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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*awaits the entrance of Mr. Turbo.....* |
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b18b_turbo Riding on 17's
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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i been reading and holding my hand but look at it....
over a month passed...and not one post from Jack...
all of a sudden he finds a place in a thred to start some commotion and he get back his magic typing fingers....never anything of substance.....
somebody hada slap a kant on yuh forehead and fack some brains into yuh head.....boy jackey
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