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legacy_specB · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject:

Ok how about max effecient flow capacity? That better?

And don't call meh fackin name on the forum nah boi. Laughing

b18b_turbo · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject:

legacy_specB · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:37 pm Post subject:

Max efficient flow would come into play waaaay before then. At 22 psi I would not even think about running a TMIC. At that boost level a FMIC would handle it much better. And b18 there is a pressure drop still. And it's about half a psi. Do your research on reviews of ppl who have actually used this TMIC.

If you want to tell me that at 14.5-18 psi on the stock turbo, the TMIC is better, then I would quicker agree with that.

Flex030 · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:42 pm Post subject:

I'm sure Redman would be proud he asked that question, i am... Wink

b18b_turbo · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject:

Legacy_SpecB, we talkin about redman car....not ken block!

PS: do you have PSI vs RPM vs Radiation curves to support ur claim?...you sound like u do...

Bacon · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:45 pm Post subject:

The saga continues Mr. Green

I decided to leave the entire statements with only the names edited...........

legacy_specB · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:46 pm Post subject:

But since is redman car we talking bout here and he may never cross 20psi then maybe the TMIC would be sufficient.

b18b_turbo · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:50 pm Post subject:

legacy_specB · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject:

But I just say that since is redman car we talking bout it would work!!!!!! B18b read boy read!!! Laughing

Flex030 · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject:

TMIC OR FMIC both has it’s advantages and disadvantages just doh forget the water/meth very useful addition to the mix.

Bacon · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject:

But somehow.......all kicks aside....the rate that RM fella start out hot and sweaty I would not be surprised if he does..........

b18b_turbo · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject:

legacy_specB · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject:

That's right Flex. WMI is important. And much more so when running a TMIC. Also b18b did you notice the thing in the trunk of the car???? I wonder if that car would be doing so much hp if that wasn't there?

legacy_specB · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject:

Where redman? Redo I have ah question for you. What exactly you plan on doing with yuh car? In terms of boost levels etc? It makes no sense arguing which is better for you if we don't know how you plan to use it.

b18b_turbo · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:13 pm Post subject:

legacy_specB · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject:

B18 btw the lag in that video have nothing to do with the FMIC. Like the guy said it is because of the massive turbo used and the gear that he was in. You would get that same lag with a TMIC.

b18b_turbo · Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject:

lag depends on what gear you are in sir....

both cars huge single scroll turbos, similar output, one with tmic, one with fmic.

they were also both in 4th gear eh....

Redman · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:28 am Post subject:

Um I think I will just stay stock

Thanks

Very Happy

Ok
Thanks for all the info-and I appreciate flex's pride Im a man that just found the jack handle. I fully agree with his point of the comfort of ride and keepin that as the priority (if it is in fact the priority)

My issue would be what s the cost of a top mount installed vs the FMIC installed, and then look at the inc in performance per $ spent.(cant help it its my nature) The cost benefit is the first step.
Im not looking to be the fastest-I this is the last mod I would be making for a while and to be frank the ease of the TMIC switch is attractive.

With the top mount I understand that the Perrins require a little mods while you can order the AVO as a JDM spec and is a seamless mount up with a possible issue with the seal under the bonnet.

WHats the gain in HP with the 2 and approx cost?

Would I need to change the size of the turbo to get the benefits out of a FMIC??

Later

legacy_specB · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:50 am Post subject:

Well that depends a little on whether you are a brand name junkie like b18b.... Mr. Green

The last price i saw for those TMIC's was around $800+ US.

Or you can go the cheaper route and buy a FMIC and a universal piping kit and make up your bends.

TMIC = around 6k if the price is around $800 US.
FMIC = $3500, 4k tops with universal kit.

Anybody doh agree with those prices? I think it would be about that. But still is a guesstimate. Smile

Flex030 · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:57 am Post subject:

Redman I'm sure you were not expecting a 3 page read up... Mr. Green

Daiz how we (LGT) do it.... Twisted Evil

I would take a W/M kit over a TMIC or FMIC any day if i had to make a choice (more performance) the only problem is getting meth to full the bottle. I agree with you the new TMIC would look good plus the stock one looks like a sweated on plastic welded thing. You would get some gains never the less but get a w/m kit if you want real performance.

Redman · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:20 am Post subject:

What kind of gains can we expect from tmic vs fmic -not to be difficult but that important too-is the work on the front mount worth it?

Somebody mentioned that there is an issue re the bumper and a FMIC- what is the problem?

Flex -I going for 4 - I sure I could ask enough for 5 though Embarassed

Later

Flex030 · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:00 am Post subject:

Redman · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:48 am Post subject:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
De pic dem nice and ting but ahm whats the issue??

Later

Civic 2nr · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:11 pm Post subject:

i got a quote for a custom fmic locally and it was around 7-8 k.

legacy_specB · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:25 pm Post subject:

The issue there is fitment of the FMIC with the bumper support bar there. It looks like it has been cut to allow space for the IC.

And i agree with Flex. Go W/M kit. The nice thing about it is that you can also run water only if you dont have access to meth.

It would actually be cheaper to go W/M as you can get a kit for around $3k or so and achieve more gains that an upgraded TMIC or FMIC with less hassle.

Redman · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:58 pm Post subject:

So spec b you saying that the Water/Meth kit with a stock TMIC is a do able mod-but including a bigger IC-FM or TM is a step up from a W/M kit???

5 pages or bust

Later

legacy_specB · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:16 pm Post subject:

Actually no not really. What i am saying is that using W/M with the stock intercooler would give greater gains than using an upgraded TMIC or FMIC without W/M. Of course, an upgraded TMIC or FMIC with W/M would be even better but thats where cost comes into play.

If you are looking at $ vs performance, then W/M is the way to go. The gains you would achieve is greater than any TMIC or FMIC setup that isnt using W/M. And it would be cheaper.

Look at the cost of running a custom FMIC that Civic2nr posted. $7-$8 gran Shocked

thats alot of money yow!!!!!!

The only thing is to pick which W/M kit is right for you. It definitely aint going to cost you anything close to $7 k........................

Redman · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:34 pm Post subject:

Well aight,
I think we saying the same thing just you know what you talking about.
So.........if that s the case whats your recc on the W/M?????

Later