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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:05 pm
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I was there at the last carting event and noticed a safety incident that may have been looked at for the next event.
One of the shifter carts race, a guy lost his sterring control around the bend closer to the east end of the track and turned and ran straight into a crowd of people standing watching the race. Everyone was able to get out of his way, but it could have been a disaster had someone not seen him in time.
Would hate to see the event scared by an injury to a spectator.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:13 pm
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^ the people standing there were not supposed to be there - that is not a spectator area since the return lane is right there.

all motorsport is dangerous and accidents will happen.
I agree with you that safety should always be first - I am always impressed though by the safety put in place by the TTKA
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yes it on reclaimed land and is a beautiful track, that can be configured for different types of circuit racing, least not forget that they also have a dedicated drag racing facility in westmoreland , and racing tracks that are used in vernam field and dover.

And how many do we have ?

opps we have car parks Confused


how many of those were built by the Govt of Jamaica?
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^ the people standing there were not supposed to be there - that is not a spectator area since the return lane is right there.

all motorsport is dangerous and accidents will happen.
I agree with you that safety should always be first - I am always impressed though by the safety put in place by the TTKA


Duane dont get me wrong, i agree people shouldnt be standing there, because in fact he did turn the car into the retun lane.
That corner is the closest to the spectators and maybe they should ask people not to stand too close to the retun lane. We all want to get as close as possible to the action not thinking of "what if"
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yes it on reclaimed land and is a beautiful track, that can be configured for different types of circuit racing, least not forget that they also have a dedicated drag racing facility in westmoreland , and racing tracks that are used in vernam field and dover.

And how many do we have ?

opps we have car parks Confused


how many of those were built by the Govt of Jamaica?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:47 pm
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Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
^ the people standing there were not supposed to be there - that is not a spectator area since the return lane is right there.

all motorsport is dangerous and accidents will happen.
I agree with you that safety should always be first - I am always impressed though by the safety put in place by the TTKA


Duane dont get me wrong, i agree people shouldnt be standing there, because in fact he did turn the car into the retun lane.
That corner is the closest to the spectators and maybe they should ask people not to stand too close to the retun lane. We all want to get as close as possible to the action not thinking of "what if"


the race directors and commentators are always asking people to move from there.
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cornfused wrote:
yes it on reclaimed land and is a beautiful track, that can be configured for different types of circuit racing, least not forget that they also have a dedicated drag racing facility in westmoreland , and racing tracks that are used in vernam field and dover.

And how many do we have ?

opps we have car parks Confused


how many of those were built by the Govt of Jamaica?


I am unsure and unconcerned really. I could not care less it were the dons of the many garrisons around old Kingston and across Jamaica or the Jamaican national network of knitting . The fact remains that real racing takes place
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:03 pm
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hmm

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:06 pm
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As for the Nascar, whats wrong with it? let me know, I like all autosports from powerboating, D1, autoracing and even the dakar rally, nascar falls into the loop i rate it like F1 but thats just me! Would like to kno why ya'll hatin on it?


I hope you are kidding when you say you rate it like F1
Surprised
It just doesn't appeal to much people outside of the USA.
There is nothing in my view exciting about it, ugly cars..ugly paint schemes..for the most part they race in an oval turning left.who wants to sit and watch cars go in a circle?
F1, Le Mans, JGTC now that is racing.


Not kidding Maserati its all autosports to me i may not be a racing aficionado like yourself but i rate it the same as F1, Le Mans, JGTC! yeah they have more drama in the track with the turns but its still driver against driver, team against team, manufacturer against manufacturer!!
So what if its a sport in the states,
I mean i like american football and soccer and don't have a problem watching new zealand battle south africa in a good game of rugby should i hate on it cause the rules different? The player are not known worldwide! I like the art of sports what ever it may be and maybe going in a circle may not be cool but when you watchin a 500 lap daytona and say 99 laps to go and tires wear and tear and you just start to see cars flying into the air in stupifying crashes hey i call that good tv!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:18 pm
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cornfused wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
cornfused wrote:
yes it on reclaimed land and is a beautiful track, that can be configured for different types of circuit racing, least not forget that they also have a dedicated drag racing facility in westmoreland , and racing tracks that are used in vernam field and dover.

And how many do we have ?

opps we have car parks Confused


how many of those were built by the Govt of Jamaica?


I am unsure and unconcerned really. I could not care less it were the dons of the many garrisons around old Kingston and across Jamaica or the Jamaican national network of knitting . The fact remains that real racing takes place


they were built by ppl with an interest in racing in JA
you as a racer are equally to blame for there not being a track in T&T then
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:30 pm
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cornfused wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
cornfused wrote:
yes it on reclaimed land and is a beautiful track, that can be configured for different types of circuit racing, least not forget that they also have a dedicated drag racing facility in westmoreland , and racing tracks that are used in vernam field and dover.

And how many do we have ?

opps we have car parks Confused


how many of those were built by the Govt of Jamaica?


I am unsure and unconcerned really. I could not care less it were the dons of the many garrisons around old Kingston and across Jamaica or the Jamaican national network of knitting . The fact remains that real racing takes place


they were built by ppl with an interest in racing in JA
you as a racer are equally to blame for there not being a track in T&T then


So Duane all these years and no fixed track for simple autosports what really can be done by racers and the general masses who want to see racing off the streets? I have read many of the articles that has been on the papers, and here on tuner and I may be ignorant for saying this but the illustrious Min. of Sport whom i believe was into autosports not really helping the situation? (Correct me if i'm wrong)

What is needed is private investos to really set up the a system and facility so local autosports can really realize itz fullest potential.

All the guys with the 225 hp and up power under the hood of their cars and even bikes need a serious track to really work the potential of their cars, cause if you have all that power and nowhere to really drive and i'm not talking about being a arsewipe on the nations roads you just have a really nice expensive loud, piece of eyecandy/eyesore that is worthless
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:06 pm
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^^^ yup, true.

also true on the nascar point. no one here appreciates it tho.. but i watch it now and then.

to run for so many laps WOT, 160 miles per hour, 4 inches away from the next two drivers, does take special talent. racer and crew.
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What is needed is private investos to really set up the a system and facility so local autosports can really realize itz fullest potential.


yes
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^^ i watch nascar, it may not be the most entertaining auto sport there is, but it guys racing and although they are going in a circle they are doing it at 180mph. Certain tracks all 35 cars are no more than 3 secs apart, racing 3 wide inches apart.
Also how ofter do u see a guy who starts in the last 3 or 4 in F1 come thru the entire field and win the race.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:13 pm
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yea itz the skillz i appreciate!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:26 pm
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But I would like to see how demolition derby will do down here and you know the one with the figure eight with the jumps! that would have my attention!
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^^ i watch nascar, it may not be the most entertaining auto sport there is, but it guys racing and although they are going in a circle they are doing it at 180mph. Certain tracks all 35 cars are no more than 3 secs apart, racing 3 wide inches apart.
Also how ofter do u see a guy who starts in the last 3 or 4 in F1 come thru the entire field and win the race.


you'd be surprised what can happen in a race..esp. when there is a shower of rain and one guy is on wet weather rubber and the rest are struggling on the dry weather rubber.

and the guys who qualify at the bottom of the grid are there for a reason usually lol either they are crappy drivers..their car is sheit..or they had some technical problem in qualifying so they have to start the race at the back of the grid.

phhssttt 180mph... try 220mph..5g's and cars that rev up to 18 000 rpm.

And what's with NASCAR not having races if there is rain?
not like they are in open cockpit cars like F1..what a joke.
F1 will run in rain unless it is extremely heavy and the FIA determines it is a severe safety risk.
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next thing man saying Pinks is proper motorport Neutral
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yuh ha problem with pinks?
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they were built by ppl with an interest in racing in JA
you as a racer are equally to blame for there not being a track in T&T then


Trinidad is supposed to be the industry and commerce leader in the caribbean... why should we follow the methods used by other islands whose economy is just lovely ?


What about the uncertain future if a track is even built by a privateer ? Will the governing body allow such a track to host an 'official event' or will it come back to politics ?

Back OT... oval racing requires the cars to be set up a little differently, so I doubt karters will jump at it as a primarly option.

....and Nascar and F1 are completely different... respect to Nascar though... that sport really pushes the limits of speed and consistency.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:48 pm
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Both are motor sports events u can watch.
They both have there characteristics that add to their sport.
Yuh does see some good battle in pinks all out yo.....
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next thing man saying Pinks is proper motorport Neutral


Come on Duane u for sayin that, anybody would would build a car in lest than 3days or have the car that the took years to build, tune and develop and put it all on the line, I will call it a sport!

Sports is all about competition and that is one that comes with a price "Lose the race Lose your ride"!!

How many so called racers down here have that kinda ballz?

put up a Skyline against a RB20det PY Cortina that equipped to do damage see what happens, lol

it is a sport,

some people train their guts for beer drinking, hotdogs, it all seems ridiculous but itz all about competition!

Even Pickin up chicks is a sport! who got game wins at the end of the night!

but thats just my thinking!
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speaking as a karter and i think i do speak for most karters, nascar just isn't our thing to say it politely. In my personal opinion the science behind it is interesting, but no way in hell are you going to get me to watch 500 laps or even 50 laps of oval racing. There is a better chance of getting a midget series running here. oval racing but on dirt, almost a constant drift the entire race. but even with a constant drift that racing still wont appeal to us. But come check out the racing on Sunday and see what we are all about.
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Hey Edge I can appreciate what you are saying but you have to remember in anything wither it be a sport or even a product its all about the consumer. While you being a karting pro, i will not disregare any of you statments but me as a watcher of motor sports can see a diversity that can happen within my mind within a sport some things may make sense other things may be crap but once the essence of the sport is not lost i'm cool to accept what ever changes that be or may not be made.
I started this post to say well endurance laps around skinners park, at the time i just thought of it in my mind as great way to promote the sport and the thing is it won't be easy on any driver i believe because of loos gravel, gradiant slopes weather lenght of track a host of many things.
I have been to karting events down here and i like it! You guys have great reflexes to react on those side winding courses, but some times a lil difference is needed to promote a sport.
And as for nascar can everyone get over it! if you don't like it cool but i do, I mean who acutally watches 500 laps of oval racing i would if i were there cause it would be a lime but on tv come on a 10 laps now come back with a beer and somtin to toke on and 1/2 hour later you get better views with the highlights lol

this is my opinion!

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I hear what ur saying. and i deff do appreciate any ideas to help promote our sport or any type of motorsport for that matter. the physical demands arent so bad on the oval the bigger issue is the equipment. much like a smaller scale nascar and F1 they are 2 totally different machines. There are oval karts and then there are sprint karts (which we have here). oval karts use different tyres, diff engines, ur almost laying down in them while driving and they are made to turn left. sprint karts ur jr. F1 cars.

the TTKA however is working on trying to get a street race in at the end of the year. again, TRYING lol. possibly might even make it an international event. and i wouldnt go as far as to say im a karting PRO but feel free to keep saying it, lol
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^nah hes not a pro....hmmm... maybe an international by the end of year...very nice...BTW can we shorten your user name...i say drop the LEE...yup that sounds about right Laughing
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haha Laughing i sure am happy there are only gonna be REAL photographers at the track this weekend
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