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flour Riding on 13's
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: how to converte a D15B 2 vtec solenoid to 1 solenoid? |
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| does anyone knows how to or know any site that can inform me on doing a change on my D15B VTI (3 stage vtec) from using 2 solenoids to 1 solenoid? |
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reiXmann 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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why would you want to do that? the two solenoids help with the 3 stages  |
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flour Riding on 13's
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I am looking at options made available to me. i am doing a change from auto to manual and i am having probs getting a p2j-003 ecu. so i did a little research and found out that the p28 can be used but it doesnt support 2 vtec solenoids. my only option is to change to 1 solenoid to use this p28 ecu or continue searching for this p2j-003 ecu. |
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Sky 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Tech posts: 167 Location: Walking through The Valley OF VTEC My 2NRide: Honda Civic
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Sure you wanna do that? Alright, 2 wires go form the ecu to the solenoids, a green with yellow stripe controls the 1st solenoid (12v mode to 16v mode) and a red controls the 2nd solenoid ( mild to wild cam profile) the ecu sends a 12v+ to engage these solenoids, so I guess if you cut the green/yellow wire and connect it to a 12v+ going to the solenoid it'll be engaged all the time. don't just tap in the +, it cant go back to the ecu.
Wham, you like to buy gas or what? |
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Sky 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| flour wrote: | | I am looking at options made available to me. i am doing a change from auto to manual and i am having probs getting a p2j-003 ecu. so i did a little research and found out that the p28 can be used but it doesnt support 2 vtec solenoids. my only option is to change to 1 solenoid to use this p28 ecu or continue searching for this p2j-003 ecu. |
I have one of those engines....
I'm using the ecu I got with the engine on an S20 gearbox. The engine was mated to a cvt tranny (multimatic). I think the only difference between the cvt/auto and manual ecu's was the redline. But don't worry, 7400rpm is good n plenty. Trust me. |
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flour Riding on 13's
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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i know this requires alot of gas. but as i said its an option i am exploring. i just need to get my hand on a p2j-03 ecu and done all my worries and headache.
u said you are using the multimatic ecu with the manual gearbox? correct me if i am wrong. |
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SurGTR 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| i want one of dese engines to buy! |
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Sky 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| flour wrote: | i know this requires alot of gas. but as i said its an option i am exploring. i just need to get my hand on a p2j-03 ecu and done all my worries and headache.
u said you are using the multimatic ecu with the manual gearbox? correct me if i am wrong. |
Yes I am. The biggest issue I suspect arose from that was a hunting idle, the idle would rise and fall. Details sketchy, but the idle air control valve on the manual is 2 wires, while on the auto is 3. ( So i was told) But my mechanic adjusted until the idle problem went away.
| SurGTR wrote: | | i want one of dese engines to buy! |
Since people realise this is the most powerful d15b @ 130 hp, it sellin out like hot hops  |
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flour Riding on 13's
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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Sky,
you think with the manual ecu it would make a big difference with performance compared to the multimatic ecu?
i am affraid of what problem i might encounter and thats why i am trying to get the correct ecu. do u encounter any speed restrictions where the ecu limits u from building top speed? |
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SurGTR 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| the old model single vtec is not also 130hp though? |
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flour Riding on 13's
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| i read some where that the old model single vtec has less than 130hp. i cant remember the exact hp it has |
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Sky 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| flour wrote: | Sky,
you think with the manual ecu it would make a big difference with performance compared to the multimatic ecu?
i am affraid of what problem i might encounter and thats why i am trying to get the correct ecu. do u encounter any speed restrictions where the ecu limits u from building top speed? |
I does give stock SiR's beans, And I run an ES RS recently and kept up with him. He said we were going 200kmh. ( my speedo stops at 180, the needle past it and kept going)
But yea I'll assume the manual ecu would perform better. Check ANA Sole on the forums, he said he had one a while back. |
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reiXmann 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| only the 3 stage d15b is 130hp..it's the most powerful of the d15s (stock) |
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flour Riding on 13's
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| sky, what u think about turbo charging this engine? |
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SurGTR 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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got this on wiki
D15B
* VTEC
* Found in:
o 1991-1999 Honda Civic VTi EG4 (Japanese Market)
o 1992-1998 Honda CRX VXi EG1 (Japanese Market)
+ Displacement : 1493 cm³
+ Bore and Stroke : 75 mm X 84.5 mm
+ Rod Length : 137 mm
+ Compression : 9.6:1
+ Power : 128.22 hp (130 ps) @ 6800 rpm & 101.9 ft·lbs (14.1kg/m) @ 5200 rpm
+ Redline : 7200 rpm
+ Fuel Cut : 7411 rpm
+ Valvetrain : SOHC VTEC
+ Head Code : P08
+ Fuel Control : OBD-1 MPFI
[edit] D15B (D15Z7) (with 3 stage VTEC)
* 3-stage VTEC
* Found in:
o 1996-1999 Honda Civic VTi EK3 and Ferio Vi
+ Displacement : 1493 cm³
+ Bore and Stroke : 75 mm X 84.5 mm
+ Rod Length : 137 mm
+ Compression : 9.6:1
+ Power : 128 hp (130 ps) @ 7000 rpm & 102 ft·lbf (14.2kg/m) @ 5300 rpm
+ Valvetrain : SOHC VTEC
+ Fuel Control : OBD-2 MPFI
what yall think? |
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SurGTR 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| looks like the single stage and the 3 stage have the same HP to me |
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Sky 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Lol de hell?
The other day the 3 stage was 130hp on wiki, and only other D with 130 was the D16A (DOHC non vtec) with more tq than the 3 stage. Someone change that!! |
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reiXmann 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Sky wrote: | Lol de hell?
The other day the 3 stage was 130hp on wiki, and only other D with 130 was the D16A (DOHC non vtec) with more tq than the 3 stage. Someone change that!! |
nah..the only other one was the d16z6 (sohc)..somebody did indeed change it |
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