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roshan01 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:11 am Post subject: hondata tuning question. |
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i wondering about the hondata stand alone and the stock map sensor... (b16a)
how much boost can it support???
it's clear i need help here guys...
thanks in advance........ |
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Hirotoshi Riding on 13's
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:38 am Post subject: |
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the hondata s300 is highly recommended for the early series honda engines(d,b,f,h). the stock map sensor is limited to 10-11 psi of boost, above that you will need a 3 bar unit like the gm map sensor($65us).  |
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red_dragon 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 08 Apr 2004 Tech posts: 123 Location: HUNTING FOR KINDAY My 2NRide: honda EK4 Civic
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:45 am Post subject: |
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^ x2
that is the way to go |
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roshan01 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:28 am Post subject: |
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thanks guys...
but with the stock i'm seeing 13 psi firm..
not an ounce more!!!!
now all i need is one of these sensors... |
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NY4PD Street 2NR
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Tech posts: 40 Location: Florida My 2NRide: Honda Civic Si
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: hondata tuning question. |
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| roshan01 wrote: | i wondering about the hondata stand alone and the stock map sensor... (b16a)
how much boost can it support???
it's clear i need help here guys...
thanks in advance........ |
Are you reffering to the Hondata Ecu or the Hondata map sensor.???? I ah bet confuse  |
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kes_vtec Shifting into 6th
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Tech posts: 2078 Location: time out My 2NRide:
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:59 am Post subject: |
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^he said stock map sensor..
oddly the ecu should not let you run more than 12, but you can set it to run more than what the map can see, it just will not scale it. (it will run what ever setting you have in the last column. |
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NY4PD Street 2NR
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Tech posts: 40 Location: Florida My 2NRide: Honda Civic Si
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| kes_vtec wrote: | ^he said stock map sensor..
oddly the ecu should not let you run more than 12, but you can set it to run more than what the map can see, it just will not scale it. (it will run what ever setting you have in the last column. |
Thanks, thats what i taught he said but the answers an base on his question was relating to different things.
so my comments is the same yours ^, you can set the ecu to run more than 10-30psi but the stock honda map sensor will not go past 11-12 psi, best thing is to put a 3-bar map sensor in. But get your car tune and know what your hp goal is, because you can not go by the psi. |
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roshan01 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:29 am Post subject: |
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kes..
i was wondering about that column. and why it stopped at 13..
part of the reason i'm looking into the map sensor issue.
i was wondering if the stock is changed to the 3bar (map sensor that is, for the specific guys ) if the column would open up... |
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roshan01 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:37 am Post subject: |
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NY4PD
you're right about setting hp goals.
plan to hit the dyno real soon.
now who has links to get me a 3 bar?? |
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NY4PD Street 2NR
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Tech posts: 40 Location: Florida My 2NRide: Honda Civic Si
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| roshan01 wrote: | NY4PD
you're right about setting hp goals.
plan to hit the dyno real soon.
now who has links to get me a 3 bar?? |
Ok thanks, If you don't get 3-bar map sensor there in TnT let me know.
I could get map sensors here in Florida for you, or I can source any parts you want. Let me know....
Good luck... |
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kes_vtec Shifting into 6th
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:02 am Post subject: |
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i can get you the gm one or for the hondata one (4bar) but goes back to the stock location...
in the software when you pick the the map sensor it trys to scale the map to that sensor, that y it stops at 13 or 15 for the stock map, you can still (display the 3bar map range) but you will have no readings in that area. |
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roshan01 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| kes check your pm... |
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moe Ricer
Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Tech posts: 21 Location: La Romaine My 2NRide:
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| omni power have a 3b one and hondata 4b, I had a hondata 4b but it didn't last so trying the omni power 3b |
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kes_vtec Shifting into 6th
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Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| the omni is 4bar also... |
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roshan01 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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wait look meh ole pal moe,,,
but what do you mean the hondata did not last long???
what caused it to fail? |
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NY4PD Street 2NR
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Tech posts: 40 Location: Florida My 2NRide: Honda Civic Si
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| hondata made both 3 and 4 bar map sensor. Map sensor don't go bad that easly...somthing had to be wrong and most likely someone short out your map sensor. How ever Omnipoint map sensor is good too....so is the GM- 3 bar map sensor very good and affordable to.... |
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roshan01 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:04 am Post subject: |
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i heard the gm map sensor would need re-wiring...
how hard is this to do??? |
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NY4PD Street 2NR
Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Tech posts: 40 Location: Florida My 2NRide: Honda Civic Si
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| roshan01 wrote: | i heard the gm map sensor would need re-wiring...
how hard is this to do??? |
they easy to rewire, i could give you the wire order when you ready....they sell the pigtail clip with wire on ebay for $15.00 and the mapsensor goes for like $65.00.... |
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roshan01 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: |
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thanks man...
but been doing some hunting around and heard that the gm could be problematic
so going with the hondata... |
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NY4PD Street 2NR
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| roshan01 wrote: | thanks man...
but been doing some hunting around and heard that the gm could be problematic
so going with the hondata... |
Please explain how is the GM 3-bar is problematic.??? I have no problem with them and so is my friends and 100's of people in the US. However the hondata is a good map sensor but i woul like to know whom told you this info and what is the problem with the GM map sensor.???????
I'm awaiting on your answer.
Thank you... |
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